chris mathews calls west point enemy camp

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Well, everyone is entitled to a fair trial, but seeing LG defend that putz would be nothing short of a miracle.
 
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He spoke the truth.
That is their perception of our military.
All he did, was speak the words, that eveyone with one eye, and half sense already knew.
 
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I won't defend it because it was a stupid thing to say. I do think some of the outrage is a little feigned, however, as in context it is clear he is saying that the politics of the crowd was almost certainly anti-Obama, and perhaps vigorously so.

The real mistake was the White House's, thinking that by having Obama make this announcement at West Point that it would give the appearance that he has the political support of the military, which he does not, or at least not such that he can effectively be re-cast as a pro-military leader.

Which, IMO by the way, is a little unfair. While he does say that its wrong to simply fall into line with the anti-Muslim line of thinking, if you look at his record so far on everything from Iraq to Afghanistan to the pirates he has hardly been the dove that everyone seems to want to think of him.

Its an interesting contrast because, if you look at the actual decisions he is making rather than the rhetoric from either side, the man is doing basically what McCain would have done in most instances. Some exceptions ot be sure about speeches, i.e. announcing plans to withdraw at some point. But then again I don;t get the impression that he is wedded to that.

He's no hawk, I suppose. But he's not the wet noodle on defense that some would like to paint him as.
 
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BeecherVol said:
He spoke the truth.
That is their perception of our military.
All he did, was speak the words, that eveyone with one eye, and half sense already knew.
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I don't necessarily disagree with the premise of what you said, but those are the people protecting his right to be POTUS and Matthews' right to speak about them how he did. How on Earth can anyone justify thinking that about our military, when they can't even get a straight answer from their C&C about if we are going to try and win the war, and that frustration makes them "ememy camp"?? That's totally out of line, IMO, but does anyone actually expect anything less other than stupidity from Matthews??
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I don't necessarily disagree with the premise of what you said, but those are the people protecting his right to be POTUS and Matthews' right to speak about them how he did. How on Earth can anyone justify thinking that about our military, when they can't even get a straight answer from their C&C about if we are going to try and win the war, and that frustration makes them "ememy camp"?? That's totally out of line, IMO, but does anyone actually expect anything less other than stupidity from Matthews??
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I totally agree Eric.

But that is the way they feel, all he did was say it. Most of them try and hide from that kinda talk, because it is way out of line, even tho, that is what they believe. I totally disagree with what he said, in all ways possible. But he truly believes what he said.
 
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what's funny about matthews is that the only time his shows gets viewed by more than 50k people is when he gets a sound bite linked on drudge or breitart. i guess that's what msnbc realize on now.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I totally agree Eric.

But that is the way they feel, all he did was say it. Most of them try and hide from that kinda talk, because it is way out of line, even tho, that is what they believe. I totally disagree with what he said, in all ways possible. But he truly believes what he said.
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Of course he does, but that's the liberal way, use who you need to and get to power then walk all over them. Look at what they are doing with the Health Crap Bill, the American people don't want it, nor do the people who got him in for the most part. Totally shameful, IMO.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I won't defend it because it was a stupid thing to say. I do think some of the outrage is a little feigned, however, as in context it is clear he is saying that the politics of the crowd was almost certainly anti-Obama, and perhaps vigorously so.

The real mistake was the White House's, thinking that by having Obama make this announcement at West Point that it would give the appearance that he has the political support of the military, which he does not, or at least not such that he can effectively be re-cast as a pro-military leader.

Which, IMO by the way, is a little unfair. While he does say that its wrong to simply fall into line with the anti-Muslim line of thinking, if you look at his record so far on everything from Iraq to Afghanistan to the pirates he has hardly been the dove that everyone seems to want to think of him.

Its an interesting contrast because, if you look at the actual decisions he is making rather than the rhetoric from either side, the man is doing basically what McCain would have done in most instances. Some exceptions ot be sure about speeches, i.e. announcing plans to withdraw at some point. But then again I don;t get the impression that he is wedded to that.

He's no hawk, I suppose. But he's not the wet noodle on defense that some would like to paint him as.
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Spot on... and bad decision by Obama and his administration to try to pull this off at West Point. I agree that Obama has made similar decisions as McCain or Bush, but I think his biggest failure (relative to the military) and any cause of resentment was his three month plus delay in responding to McChrystal's request for more troops. The POTUS asked for a recommended strategy from one of his military leaders, which was promptly delivered and denoted an "urgent" need, but then sat on it for way too long.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I totally agree Eric.

But that is the way they feel, all he did was say it. Most of them try and hide from that kinda talk, because it is way out of line, even tho, that is what they believe. I totally disagree with what he said, in all ways possible. But he truly believes what he said.
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libs are finally speaking what they believe. hussein will let it slip when he's not using the telepromter. Howard Dean just made a speech about socialism and capitalism, which is what 90% of liberals think. they're getting really arrogant.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I won't defend it because it was a stupid thing to say. I do think some of the outrage is a little feigned, however, as in context it is clear he is saying that the politics of the crowd was almost certainly anti-Obama, and perhaps vigorously so.

The real mistake was the White House's, thinking that by having Obama make this announcement at West Point that it would give the appearance that he has the political support of the military, which he does not, or at least not such that he can effectively be re-cast as a pro-military leader.

Which, IMO by the way, is a little unfair. While he does say that its wrong to simply fall into line with the anti-Muslim line of thinking, if you look at his record so far on everything from Iraq to Afghanistan to the pirates he has hardly been the dove that everyone seems to want to think of him.

Its an interesting contrast because, if you look at the actual decisions he is making rather than the rhetoric from either side, the man is doing basically what McCain would have done in most instances. Some exceptions ot be sure about speeches, i.e. announcing plans to withdraw at some point. But then again I don;t get the impression that he is wedded to that.

He's no hawk, I suppose. But he's not the wet noodle on defense that some would like to paint him as.
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It might have been another photo op for Obama. Hmmm?

Breitbart.tv Obama To Troops: ‘You Guys Make a Pretty Good Photo-Op’
 
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riiiggghhtt. he just said exactly what he was thinking. that guy doesn't do anything out of hte goodness of his heart.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sheesz, he's just complimenting them for looking sharp. Truly reaching on this.
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he may have, but libs have always despised the military since the vietnam war. they just traded their beads for teaching degrees and government positions. the hatred hasn't left. history is against libs feelings for the military.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I won't defend it because it was a stupid thing to say. I do think some of the outrage is a little feigned, however, as in context it is clear he is saying that the politics of the crowd was almost certainly anti-Obama, and perhaps vigorously so.
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Who would know better than you? :)
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Ike Theatre is now dead to me.
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This is Classic!

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