Christie vetos same sex marrige bill

[Gramps]

CNN Breaking News
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has vetoed a bill that would allow same-sex couples to wed.

Thoughts

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

While he's not in favor, he also said he'd prefer the voters decide this issue for the state. I don't really have a problem with that.

 

[Gramps]

While he's not in favor, he also said he'd prefer the voters decide this issue for the state. I don't really have a problem with that.

I think he did the correct thing. I think this is an issue that should be decided by the voters.

 

[milohimself]

While he's not in favor, he also said he'd prefer the voters decide this issue for the state. I don't really have a problem with that.

I dont like the idea of civil rights being put to a referendum. Could you imagine if the civil rights act was put to a popular vote state by state in the south in the 60's?

 

[allvol123]

I dont like the idea of civil rights being put to a referendum. Could you imagine if the civil rights act was put to a popular vote state by state in the south in the 60's?

Would have certainly chartered a different course. States would have created very different environments and the ones that chose freedom for everyone would likely have seen a huge influx of minorities while the states against would have seen massive exodus, you would think. Sometimes I think it is best for people to get what they want and learn from that point.

 

[tvolsfan]

Thoughts

I think he's planning on running for president in the future.

 

[distrovol]

Since when did changing the defeinition of a word become a civil right?

 

[VOLatile]

I dont like the idea of civil rights being put to a referendum. Could you imagine if the civil rights act was put to a popular vote state by state in the south in the 60's?

The regional demographics of the United States would look a lot different.

 

[VOLatile]

Since when did changing the defeinition of a word become a civil right?

What word is changing definitions?

 

[distrovol]

marriage

 

[n_huffhines]

This drastically changes my opinion of Christie.

 

[VOLatile]

marriage

What is your definition of marriage?

 

[vollygirl]

This drastically changes my opinion of Christie.

Me too.

 

[n_huffhines]

Would have certainly chartered a different course. States would have created very different environments and the ones that chose freedom for everyone would likely have seen a huge influx of minorities while the states against would have seen massive exodus, you would think. Sometimes I think it is best for people to get what they want and learn from that point.

I believe that without an overexpansive federal government, race would not have been such a big issue. The fugitive slave act is all on the Federal government, and it would have been impossible to maintain slavery without it. It basically set us back a century on race. Though I agree with Milo that southern states would've resisted the CRA if it had been left up to them, without the Federal government's Fugitive slave act the south in 1964 would've been more like the south in 2012, IMO.

 

[VOLatile]

This drastically changes my opinion of Christie.

Positively or negatively?

 

[n_huffhines]

Positively or negatively?

negatively

 

[distrovol]

THE definition of marriage? Do we really have to re-hash this? 3000 years of beautiful tradition; from Moses to Sandy Koufax.... your damned right I'm livin' in the past!!!

 

[VOLatile]

negatively

That's what I thought.

 

[vollygirl]

If you want to give breaks to people co-habitating in the same household (like carpooling), that's one thing. Roommates, life partners, siblings, whatever the arrangement may be. But marriage is an institution between a man and a woman. Period.

 

[utvolpj]

But marriage is an institution between a man and a woman.

why is that?

 

[vollygirl]

why is that?

Because that's the way God designed it.

 

[utvolpj]

Because that's the way God designed it.

do people that don't believe in God still have to live under his rules? Is it possible he created gay people too and would like them to enjoy the same freedoms?

 

[vollygirl]

do people that don't believe in God still have to live under his rules? Is it possible he created gay people too and would like them to enjoy the same freedoms?

I didn't decide the government should adopt one of God's unions to rule by. And that kind of "freedom" has nothing to do with God.

 

[VOLatile]

Volly, look around you, if God didn't design homosexuality then He wouldn't have made other species exhibit homosexual tendencies. Two men or women love each other, then let them marry. Stop legislating morality.

 

[utvolpj]

I didn't decide the government should adopt one of God's unions to rule by. And that kind of "freedom" has nothing to do with God.

so God put people on this earth with the intent of them being discriminated against for being who they are? Should the govt be endorsing a religion's views of marriage?