Clausen may play?

[volfan2024]

If he is banged up and the Kentucky game is meaningless, should we not go with Ainge all the way. He might be our future. I guess Fulmer may be trying to show loyalty to his players but somewhere along the line we need to be thinking about NEXT SEASON! I think Jimmy Clausen is out of the picture if that's part of Fulmers thinking.

 

[GAVol]

The scary thing is though that a banged up Rick Clausen might be the better option.

 

[CSpindizzy]

A better option....that we might not lose AS BAD?

 

[Liper]

Originally posted by GAVol@Nov 23, 2005 9:30 AM
The scary thing is though that a banged up Rick Clausen might be the better option.

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Agreed. Ainge is too busy trying to hire our next OC.

I look for Meachem and Hannon to have huge games. LMAO. :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

 

[CSpindizzy]

Originally posted by Liper@Nov 23, 2005 10:06 AM
Agreed.  Ainge is too busy trying to hire our next OC.

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Again, that is taken just a little bit out of context. But there are those that no matter what will hate certain players and badmouth them no matter what.

 

[Liper]

Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 10:08 AM
Again, that is taken just a little bit out of context. But there are those that no matter what will hate certain players and badmouth them no matter what.

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How is that out of context? He said he'd have something to say about who they hire.

Regardless, I certainly do not hate a college football player. I was a college athlete and I have a pretty good grasp of what they deal with as far as balance, maturity, and responsibility.

I think he's play has been extremely poor and he is delusionally arrogant -- like his head coach. Remember, this is a kid who was frustrated that he was taken out of the LSU game and thought he missed a play here or there.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Originally posted by Liper@Nov 23, 2005 10:15 AM
How is that out of context?  He said he'd have something to say about who they hire.

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Did he say that? I'm not reading the same article as you. I'm not seeing where he said he'd have something to say about who they hire...especially the context you're implying. He said he'd have a part in that. I think all of the players would have a part in that and so would the coaches. When hiring someone the person doing the hiring thinks about the needs of key players and how well this person would work with both players and coaches. You're implying Ainge said he's on some committee deciding who's going to be hired.

You seem to have a problem with Ainge's 'arrogance' but have said nothing about Clausen's as he trashed fans and threw pouting parties when Fulmer benched him a few times.

 

[Chief]

Originally posted by Liper@Nov 23, 2005 10:15 AM


I think he's play has been extremely poor and he is delusionally arrogant -- like his head coach.  Remember, this is a kid who was frustrated that he was taken out of the LSU game and thought he missed a play here or there.

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Wow, just a few plays here or there? More like every play here, there and everywhere

 

[Liper]

Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 10:23 AM
I think all of the players would have a part in that and so would the coaches. When hiring someone the person doing the hiring thinks about the needs of key players and how well this person would work with both players and coaches. You're implying Ainge said he's on some committee deciding who's going to be hired.

You seem to have a problem with Ainge's 'arrogance' but have said nothing about Clausen's as he trashed fans and threw pouting parties when Fulmer benched him a few times.

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The players have exactly ZERO part in who gets hired -- NONE. That is CPF's responsibility, in addition to some input from his bosses. If EA didn't mean that, I accept that and won't lose sleep over this. But he is sorely mistaken -- or any other player -- if they think they have the least thing to do with this.

Why are you so bent out of shape about EA and RC fairness? I think RC is getting too big for his britches with all of the "we don't care what anybody thinks...I play for this team and no one else...take it or leave it." I think EA is arrogant and had a terrible year. I think RC gives us a better chance to win.

RC is bad and EA is worse. Both of them need to shut it. How's that.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by Liper@Nov 23, 2005 10:34 AM
RC is bad and EA is worse.  Both of them need to shut it.  How's that.

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Sounds good to me. This time I just hope that we have more than 35 yards passing in the first half.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Originally posted by Liper@Nov 23, 2005 10:34 AM
Why are you so bent out of shape about EA and RC fairness?  I think RC is getting too big for his britches with all of the "we don't care what anybody thinks...I play for this team and no one else...take it or leave it."  I think EA is arrogant and had a terrible year.  I think RC gives us a better chance to win.

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I'm 'bent out of shape' that people pick and choose specific players for doing something when others do the same thing. Two players do the same thing but some people pick one to trash. You do what you want and I can't stop you but how does that support the team or help the morale situation? Clausen and Ainge have both thrown little fits and performed poorly. I'd expect better from a guy around as long as Clausen but he seems to get a free pass.

As for players having a part in the hiring process, like I said, everyone does. it works that way with most every hire of that level. Fulmer doesn't go and ask a player should I hire this guy. But their development and growth is an influence. Fulmer has players that are in a certain style. he will find someone to take that style and mold it. Same goes with other coaches. Fulmer won't hire some hothead that will piss off the rest of the staff. That shows in the rumors of TT leaving. Pure and simple a coach thinks about the grand scheme of things in hiring. if he doesn't he's set himself up for greater failure.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Why not let Jim Bob start this one? If Ainge is the future we are already screwed. Time for the thrill from Fayetteville to get some minutes! :rock:

 

[Liper]

1. You left out the part where I said they need to both shut it.

2. What I say on a discussion board has no effect on team morale. Besides, I rarely if ever call out specific players or outright bash the team. I will be hard on coaches that make $2,000,000 for mediocre results.

3. Players have, I repeat, ZERO part in the hiring process. Does the BOSS take the system, players, university, recruiting, et al, into account? Sure the BOSS does. If all of the players went to Honolulu for the winter, they would have the same influence on the next OC.

4. BTW, the players respect RC a heck of a lot more than they do EA. Why do you think that is?

5. I WANT Ainge to be good. If he were clicking we'd all be happier. But he is NOT clicking, and in fact makes it impossible for us to win. Hopefully Cutcliffe will get him ready to be a great QB, which he has the talent to be.

 

[CSpindizzy]

Your #3 still makes no sense. They obviously have a part since they are taken into account. To me that is a part. Would you hire a west coast offense OC if the whole offense is NOT west coast oriented or the recruits coming in were NOT WC? Those players have a major role in that example of having a prt in the hiring process.

 

[Liper]

We'll have to agree to disagree, because I think we're talking past each other.

I interpret EA's comments as putting forth the implication that he would have some input.

If, however, the quaterbacks' development is what he is referring to, then I would concur with you that EA's development is a factor. But that would have to be ambiguous enough to include ANY vol QB.

 

[surrealvol]

I say we start Ainge and see what happens. So we hack off Clausen for two or three quarters? Nope...he would come in and do his usual blue-collar job. So let's experiment and see what happens.

By the way, I have to say that Rick's long pass to Meachem against the 'Dores was a thing of absolute beauty...right on the money.

 

[ainge10heisman]

I hope he dosent play, I hope Ainge starts with Lucas Taylor being the #2 guy, after Ainge starts sucking put Taylor in and he will run wild on KY, i would love to see him running all over the field from the qb position, KY wouldnt be expecting a scrambling qb from UT

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 12:53 PM
You seem to have a problem with Ainge's 'arrogance' but have said nothing about Clausen's as he trashed fans and threw pouting parties when Fulmer benched him a few times.

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Fulmer putting up with Clausen or Ainge acting like two year old petulants is just another sign there is too much Daddy and not enough Father in Fulmer. :bad: