Clint Boyer

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Always interesting to me how a car passes pre-race inspection, but fails post-race inspection.
 
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Cars tend to be lower after a race, on track contact can alter dimensions, and tampering by non-team members are some reasons.
 
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rbroyles said:
Cars tend to be lower after a race, on track contact can alter dimensions, and tampering by non-team members are some reasons.
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You would think NASCAR would have an allowance for the car lowering some during the race, but maybe they do and Clint's car was beyond that allowance. Either way, Clint can kiss any chance of winning the Cup goodbye.
 
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Let's be honest, who had Bowyer winning it even before the penalty or before he won at New Hampshire?
 
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The 33 team is claiming the tow truck bump to victory lane caused it. I find it funny these cars can get pounded at restrictor plate tracks, but a tap from the tow truck knocks the car all out of whack.
 
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"Bowyer's car was 60-thousandths of an inch beyond NASCAR's tolerance."

I'm sorry but that doesn't warrant a 150 point penalty with his crew chief getting suspended 6 races. IMO, this is what turns people off to Nascar. There is no way that gave them enough of an advantage to get that penalty.
 
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615 Vol said:
"Bowyer's car was 60-thousandths of an inch beyond NASCAR's tolerance."

I'm sorry but that doesn't warrant a 150 point penalty with his crew chief getting suspended 6 races. IMO, this is what turns people off to Nascar. There is no way that gave them enough of an advantage to get that penalty.
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They were given a warning after Richmond to quit messing around and I guess they didn't listen.
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doozer said:
They were given a warning after Richmond to quit messing around and I guess they didn't listen.
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I didn't know they were given a warning so that does change my opinion some but how does 60-thousandths of an inch make that much of an impact? I didn't know they could even measure down to the thousands of an inch.
 
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I listened to this on Nascar Radio for 6 hours today on my way to Charlotte. I'm about sick of it. You're supposedly given 70 thousanths tolerance, but Carl Long was closer to that and he was penalized much more severe.

It seems RCR's best argument is the tow truck pushed it in on his way to the pits. I guess that would do it, but bump-drafting and beating and banging on short tracks doesn't mess anything up.
 
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60-thousandths of an inch is about the thickness of a penny in case anyone couldn't picture that amount. I was trying to gauge that but then Childress said that was about the size of it. Ridiculous.
 
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The way Andy Petree explained it is there is no "tolerance" involved in this particular measurement. There is either a maximum or a minimum, not both. He wasn't clear whether it is a max. or min. dimension that is used.

.060" is how much the 33 car was out of spec. Although it is commonly called "sixty thousanths", the true dimension is 6/100ths of an inch.
 
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Anyone expecting anything other than denial hasn't been following NASCAR very long. Very few fines/penalties are overturned. The appeal boards seem to be a rubber stamp for NASCAR. Hopefully the next step will be completely free of this. If there would have been a competitive advantage to the "infraction", I would feel differently, but there was no gain.
 
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615 Vol said:
"Bowyer's car was 60-thousandths of an inch beyond NASCAR's tolerance."

I'm sorry but that doesn't warrant a 150 point penalty with his crew chief getting suspended 6 races. IMO, this is what turns people off to Nascar. There is no way that gave them enough of an advantage to get that penalty.
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Agree. Nascar has become a complete joke.
 
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rbroyles said:
Anyone expecting anything other than denial hasn't been following NASCAR very long. Very few fines/penalties are overturned. The appeal boards seem to be a rubber stamp for NASCAR. Hopefully the next step will be completely free of this. If there would have been a competitive advantage to the "infraction", I would feel differently, but there was no gain.
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Had they not been reprimanded the week before for the same thing, I would agree.

As it stands, if they say quit doing something and give you a pass, and you do it again; you deserve the book being thrown at you.
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My understanding is that the reprimand was because they were close to being out of spec, and as many competitors, analysts, commentators have said all teams get as close as they can.

I am not an RCR fan, but I still feel the penalty of 150 points is too steep for no gain in car speed or handling. 25 to 50 points has been the norm before. It just isn't good to eliminate a Chase contender for such a minor infraction, which could have been caused by the wrecker.
 
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everybody cheats, no doubt.

i think NASCAR just got tired of telling them to stop.

and for whatever its worth, he went 50 something races without a win and then dominated NH. then he gets fined for something illegal. i think the team thought they found something and got caught going to the well one too many.
 
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doozer said:
everybody cheats, no doubt.

i think NASCAR just got tired of telling them to stop.

and for whatever its worth, he went 50 something races without a win and then dominated NH. then he gets fined for something illegal. i think the team thought they found something and got caught going to the well one too many.
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He has been running in top 5 or 10 regularly lately. I can't see how .060 of an inch difference in body mounting could make a car any more competitive. In any case, the penalty is much more severe than warranted. It takes the team from first to last at a time when there needs to be competition for the 48 car. You'd think NASCAR would consider that aspect.
 
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rbroyles said:
He has been running in top 5 or 10 regularly lately. I can't see how .060 of an inch difference in body mounting could make a car any more competitive. In any case, the penalty is much more severe than warranted. It takes the team from first to last at a time when there needs to be competition for the 48 car. You'd think NASCAR would consider that aspect.
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Jimmie Johnson must have some incriminating photos of Brian France or something.
 
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