CNBC says 80% of russians would have voted for obama

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notverycrucial said:
Nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Bush. Same all over the world, I imagine.
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Of course, but the far right like to get in their daily chops instead of focusing on the present and the future. What very few in here will admit is how disciplined the Obama team has been since the election and how they are making one of the smoothest transitions in history.

Also, no one is mentioning the fact Obama has a strong willingness to listen...to all sides and make informed decisions from it. You know, acting Presidential.
 
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truefan said:
how they are making one of the smoothest transitions in history.

Also, no one is mentioning the fact Obama has a strong willingness to listen...to all sides and make informed decisions from it. You know, acting Presidential.
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How is he making one of the smoothest transitions in history? Can you qualify that at all? Maybe you'll be willing to wait until it's finished to put on your NYT hat and proclaim greatness.

Where has he shown this willingness to listen and make informed decisions? Which policy stand?
 
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the "smoothest transition in history" is taking place because of what happened during the 2000 transition. Obama is running a well oiled machine (powered by a bunch of Clinton era retreads), but none of that would matter if George W. wasn't showing a lot of class and bending over backwards to ease the Obama's move into the White House.
 
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MG1968 said:
the "smoothest transition in history" is taking place because of what happened during the 2000 transition. Obama is running a well oiled machine (powered by a bunch of Clinton era retreads), but none of that would matter if George W. wasn't showing a lot of class and bending over backwards to ease the Obama's move into the White House.
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I agree with the part on President W showing a lot of class. I disagree with the bending over backwards part. By doing the former, he doesn't have to do the latter. I think he is simply acting as a sitting president should at this time. It also helps that both Bush and Obama have shown a willingness to have some sort of nonpartisan dialogue with one another
 
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droski said:
please link any article saying this is the smoothest transition in history.
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Why?? I didn't read it in any newspaper or on the 'net. I just heard some comments the other day on some talk show. It was a bipartisan panel and they were talking about it. It was Gergen, Buchanon, Jon Meachum, Mary Matalin, Paul Begala and a couple of others. Now I know you are smarter than any of them, but they all made nice points and have been right there in the thick of it.

Look Droski, you can continue to be negative all you like. You are in a forum with a lot of people who share your political views...ok....but don't think for one second it EVER makes you right in any of your analysis'. Whether you want to admit it or not, Obama is doing a lot of the right things right now in this transition. Now you can either suck it up and try to at least make some sort of positive contirbution or you can continue to sound like some sort of crybaby who is looking for everything bad that might happen and nothing of the good that is happening. Your choice. It is almost like..."be a man or be a little boy"
 
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The smoothest transition was Reagan/Carter.

I read an interview with Carter. He was actually surprised. "The didn't even call and ask us a single question." :eek:lol:
 
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droski said:
ok please list the "right things" he is doing in this transition?
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well, he created the completely fictitious "Office of the President Elect".

His transition website "change.gov" was taken offline because of the outcry over mandatory volunteerism for students and senior citizens.

many of his transition team are Clinton era retreads

Michelle Obama has been spotted picking out tiger striped velvet drapes for the executive bedroom.
 
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but salon said racists were voting for obama and that is why the racists didn't cost obama the election. now i'm confused.
 
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lawgator1 said:
By that logic, since 99% of racists voted for McCain, McCain is a racist.
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I am pretty positive that Powell, Sharpton, and Jackson voted for BHO.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH:
Only white people can be racist.
 
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therealUT said:
I am pretty positive that Powell, Sharpton, and Jackson voted for BHO.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH:
Only white people can be racist.
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I absolutely knew someone would make that point ...

and thereby completely miss mine.
 
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allvol123 said:
Your thinking is flawed on so many levels.
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How so?

The implication from droski was that, because 80 % of Russians voted for Obama, then logically that meant that Obama must have some socialist ideals, since Russia is or has had a history of socialism.

I was simply pointing out that the fact that a large percentage of a particular group votes a certain way does not, logically, mean that the person they voted for necessarily shares the same ideal as that group.

This is usually because people belong to mnore than one group. For example, that same 80 percent of Ruissians who would vote for Obama also might belong to a looser-defined group of people who dislike George Bush and who saw Obama as a repudiation of Bush's policies and politics. So, the better conclusion -- the more accurate conclusion -- would be that they say they would have voted for Obama because of their mutual dislike of Bush, not their alleged mutual like of "socialism."

And of course not defining terms hurts the logic process, as well.
 
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