Coach Jumper: Prediction: Diamond WILL be a Jumper again

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If holly returns, Diamond willjump. i know this family and have known of them since Diamond was 11 years old. Delino, Dee, Diamond and I,,, all know what this child is capable of... What is missing is the thing she has had in every environment except college... SHE has to have a strong hand leading her. Holly is not an alpha-female

You can't let Diamond's emotions rule her and you can't sit her and let her recompose herself. She will only sit and fester...She has to be shaken back to earth with force, wisdom and a very alpha-hand.

this program is in trouble. . . Only a step-down from HW will end it. The U isn't going to fire or force her to leave. No way... This sacrifice and gesture has to com from Holly. . . Do the right thing HW
 
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that won't happen. I have seen her AAU coach pull her to the side and without demeaning her in view,let her have both barrels. she responded with a 14 point quarter out of pure hatred and anger. This is not to say she went out and beat up anyone, she funneled that talking to into a "controlled rage".. She was all business and she was focused. That is the element that an athlete has to have to hit 110%. They have to be able to do 10% more than ANY ONE who knows them, would thought them capable of. (I detest the overuse of this phrase)

Diamond was taught to play with controlled-aggression. But she has little ability to control her emotions. When they get out of place, only one she "respects" can put her back on track. And THAT is what this team needs right now. Not a disciplinarian, a role model! An Alpha. Like Pat Summit.

She HAS to have a coach who can see her emotions taking charge over her and coach those emotions.

Only a few of us can do this thing....thus, the term, elite.

you may allude to this being part of the maturing process, but not all great athletes mature. just as not all people do. At least, on the same time-frame. (Edited)
 
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Everyone knew coming in that Attitude would be a possible problem with Diamond, but most everyone proclaimed her an All-American, and The Ticket to the Final Four.
 
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While I think it's Hollys time to move on, I don't think she ought to do it cause DD wNts her gone. How is DD going to survive at any program when she has to be singled out and treated different than the rest. If she leaves, that will be 2 schools in 2 years of playing that she has quit on. That's a problem with DD, not with the schools. If she lays pro fall, is she then going to jump from team to team?
 
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Coach Jumper said:
that won't happen. I have seen her AAU coach pull her to the side and without demeaning her in view,let her have both barrels. she responded with a 14 point quarter out of pure hatred and anger.

Diamond was taught to play with controller-aggression. But she has no ability to control her emotions. You can look at this child whether she's competing or eating ice cream and you can see exactly what mood she is in.

She HAS to have a coach who can see her emotions taking charge over her and coach those emotions.

Only a few of us can do this thing....thus, the term, elite.

you may elude to this being part of the maturing process, but not all great athletes mature.
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Makes all the more sense now. Diamond truly wanted to play for coach Summitt. The one coach that could had given her that guidance and authoritative nature. It just wasn't Tennessee it was the coach that was the lure. Now, she's paying the ultimate price of playing for Summit's assistant who doesn't have a clue on how to run a team.

From the start of the season to now it has been a nightmare for Diamond and us Lady Vol fans. Unbelievable what has transpired this season. Never would had thought in a million years that Tennessee would be in this position. And to think that Holly has dug in her heels into the ground and will not go quietly makes me angry. I can't even stand looking at her let alone seeing her in an interview. She's just dreadful personality wise and as a coach.

Thanks for your insight, coach!
 
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Observations, Have you ever seen Holly stop a player coming off the court and give suggestions, questions them, or even go over to the bench and talk to them? 2- Name one player other than Carter that will dive on the floor for loose ball. 3- Have you watched the lack of Hustle from players like Nared, Russell, and others. 4- I'm all for recruiting 4-5 stars, but you still have to evaluate them. Jamie Nard was a top five player ,and Cooper was the #1 point guard and she shoots a set shot. The great players such as Holdsclaw, Catchings, Lawson they all could shoot off the dribble. My point is this, the current players were good high school players, but did not deserve the rankings they received. For Holly or any other coach to turn this nightmare around you have to recruit period. Great players make great coaches i.e. Candice Parker. The players that they went after this year were probably long shots because of geography,and that is a mistake you should not make in recruiting. Do you ever hear Holly talk about recruiting,but you sure hear Butch Jones talk about it. How is it that Holly worked for Pat all those years and she does not have any of the traits of a Pat Summitt.
 
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Holly's relationship with Diamond is actually way down on the list of problems taking a back seat to:

- poor offensive schemes
- poor motivator
- poor problem solver
- allows referees to hose us
 
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How big a stick should be used?

I don't like Prima Donna's holding a program hostage to get what they want.

If DD is this much of a juvenile as a twenty year old, God help the people that have to put up with her for the next 60 years.
 
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in my coaching i consider two very important things
turnovers per minute played and assist-to-turnover ratio (should be about 2 to 1)

check this grid out

Name, minutes, turnovers, minutes per turnover, assists, asst to TO ratio

MOORE 109 10 10.90 2 0.20
DUNBAR 165 5 33.00 2 0.40
RUSSELL 791 51 15.51 21 0.41
DESHIELDS 588 96 6.13 58 0.60
JACKSON 114 7 16.29 5 0.71
NARED 421 28 15.04 22 0.79
JONES 102 10 10.20 8 0.80
COOPER 512 73 7.01 62 0.85
GRAVES 728 31 23.48 31 1.00
CARTER 758 50 15.16 50 1.00
MIDDLETON 287 32 8.97 35 1.09
REYNOLDS 574 49 11.71 67 1.37

only Jordan Reynolds has an acceptable asst to turnover ratio
 
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Belle1957 said:
Observations, Have you ever seen Holly stop a player coming off the court and give suggestions, questions them, or even go over to the bench and talk to them? 2- Name one player other than Carter that will dive on the floor for loose ball. 3- Have you watched the lack of Hustle from players like Nared, Russell, and others. 4- I'm all for recruiting 4-5 stars, but you still have to evaluate them. Jamie Nard was a top five player ,and Cooper was the #1 point guard and she shoots a set shot. The great players such as Holdsclaw, Catchings, Lawson they all could shoot off the dribble. My point is this, the current players were good high school players, but did not deserve the rankings they received. For Holly or any other coach to turn this nightmare around you have to recruit period. Great players make great coaches i.e. Candice Parker. The players that they went after this year were probably long shots because of geography,and that is a mistake you should not make in recruiting. Do you ever hear Holly talk about recruiting,but you sure hear Butch Jones talk about it. How is it that Holly worked for Pat all those years and she does not have any of the traits of a Pat Summitt.
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think about it... when you think of Candace P... which thought below is more relevant"
Candace had Pat Summit as a coach
or
Pat Summit had Candace as a player

The coach makes the player.

Look at my team below...these players didn't make me a coach, i made them players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjvIZMA3ojE
 
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LVJeff said:
How big a stick should be used?

I don't like Prima Donna's holding a program hostage to get what they want.

If DD is this much of a juvenile as a twenty year old, God help the people that have to put up with her for the next 60 years.
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some people just don't mature in a normal fashion... Didja ever have one of those "uncle Leo's" in your family... you know, the one who still uses a whoopie cushion at 55 yrs old
 
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Coach Jumper, what do you suggest to fix this program? Give us a rundown on how you'd turn it around. And what can be done if Holly stays?
 
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Hmm...

So...Coach Jones should step down because Alvin Kamara, his family and friends think he deserves more playing time? Obviously this is hypothetical.

I think it would set quite the precedent for coaches to resign or be replaced based on the whims of a player, even a great player.
 
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Coach Jumper has told us a great deal about DD, and about some of the dynamics on this team.

If Coach is correct, DD acts childishly. She is "unable" to control her emotions. She cannot be publicly corrected, and if thwarted she stews and then leaves.

Unless she overcomes this, pro teams may see these traits as great liabilities.
 
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I'll be the first one to say Holly needs to be fired but she is not the sole problem for DD's issues. DD makes HORRIBLE passes (by now she should know what her teammates can and can not catch) and she misses lots of easy shots. That is on her.

Hopefully DD stands accountable and isn't the type who blames everyone else for her shortcomings...
 
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Coach Jumper said:
that won't happen. I have seen her AAU coach pull her to the side and without demeaning her in view,let her have both barrels. she responded with a 14 point quarter out of pure hatred and anger.

Diamond was taught to play with controller-aggression. But she has no ability to control her emotions. You can look at this child whether she's competing or eating ice cream and you can see exactly what mood she is in.

She HAS to have a coach who can see her emotions taking charge over her and coach those emotions.

Only a few of us can do this thing....thus, the term, elite.

you may elude to this being part of the maturing process, but not all great athletes mature.
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I think you mean "allude". You know, Diamond had her best half of the season against LSU, after Holly pulled in the 1st quarter for several silly turnovers. I am not sure her effective response was out of "hatred and anger" either. Diamond is not running off and getting T-ed up or throwing tantrums on the bench either; yes, her frustration sometimes show but the same can be said for many other athletes;

I don't know, but i would expect that the emotional status of 20 year-old woman is a bit different from when she was 12 years old.
 
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CincyLadyVol said:
Coach Jumper, what do you suggest to fix this program? Give us a rundown on how you'd turn it around. And what can be done if Holly stays?
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This team has four undeniable alpha-female players:
Graves, DeShields, Meme Jackson and Cooper. . . they are without a doubt alpha-females...An alpha will only follow another alpha. the rest of the populous are below them in their mind and they will not follow one they don't consider greater than them. if you will think about it, these are the ones that are having inconsistent or lacking performances.

what is needed is one person on that coaching staff who can put these girls in their place, without, taking the spirit out of them. . . I could do that. Look at my video of my team. I never have to raise my voice or jump on them because i understand how to coach females.

I could never instruct Holly on how to do this for two reasons. Holly is not an Alpha and I am not a female coach....I can't teach a non-alpha how to be one. And I certainly can't teach one not of my gender how to be coach like me... Another alpha female would be much better equipped to do that. . . it's not a cop-out... its all in gender-difference... Holly could say something like "that was the most pitiful effort i have ever seen". most females would take that statement from "one of their own gender" and bow-up and conquer, where if most male coaches said the same thing, the girl would shutdown.

Solution, give me 1 workout with DD or Basha or Coop and you would see immediate change.
 
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NoBackBoard said:
I'll be the first one to say Holly needs to be fired but she is not the sole problem for DD's issues. DD makes HORRIBLE passes (by now she should know what her teammates can and can not catch) and she misses lots of easy shots. That is on her.

Hopefully DD stands accountable and isn't the type who blames everyone else for her shortcomings...
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DD's turnover to assist ratio is better than three others on that team. Great passes are most often horrible passes, that are connected
 
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madtownvol said:
I think you mean "allude". You know, Diamond had her best half of the season against LSU, after Holly pulled in the 1st quarter for several silly turnovers. I am not sure her effective response was out of "hatred and anger" either. Diamond is not running off and getting T-ed up or throwing tantrums on the bench either; yes, her frustration sometimes show but the same can be said for many other athletes;

I don't know, but i would expect that the emotional status of 20 year-old woman is a bit different from when she was 12 years old.
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you would be wrong in most cases. A girl who matures normally becomes her emotional self between 11-13 (puberty). Their personality varies little after they acquire it.

I have coached 12's effectively and 16-18's equally effectively. . . 5 of the 8 from my first team 16u in Knoxville are now in college on scholarship.

of the 12u team i showed in this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjvIZMA3ojE . . . Four that i know of are being highly recruited and one was the 3rd alternate on the 16u USA team this past year.
 
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