Coaching Staff = Regional recruiting success!

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Just a random thought... But looking at the staff we're building, their backgrounds, former teams, etc. Coach Kiffin maybe finding the best coach & the best recruiter from each of their respected regions!

Chaney- from reading your posts, he's back in 'his' midwest recruiting now.
Orgeron- he's been a beast in recruiting south FL for years
Monte- His name & reputation should speak volumes to northern & mid Florida kids
Almost Garner?- He is known to lock down the State of Georgia's best prospects & would've been Kiffin's Georgia expert

I would suspect that each hotbed of talent nationwide has trends/ tendencies/ connections/ secrets that benefit coaches in each of these respective areas! and if you look at our new staff, I think we are going to have an excellent coach with a connection or presence for each of the countries hotbeds of talent!

So will our next Staff additions bring us a Georgia/ Alabama connection, someone with a Virginia/ DC background, or a West Coast expert??
 
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We aren't getting Garner. And Orgeron is probably the biggest Nationwide guy we can get. Lane is probably going to focus more in Cali from what I've gathered.
 
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I'd like to see someone with a connection to Texas really.. Texas and Florida are both states that are full of the best talent. IMO
 
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Already have West Coast with Kiffin and O from their days at SC. Garner would have been a great recruiter for GA (Atlanta). Reaves has South Caolina covered. O knows Mississippi, Louisiana, and Bama. Monte has Northern Florida, and Gonzales, if hired, will have south Florida. We need a good connect in TX, VA (DC), Ohio, and Pennsylvania. I would like to add Lance Thompson from Bama to staff to lock down the south.
 
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I don't care where the players are from...I just want to win. I know that takes good players, I hope these guys can get them
 
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Big O will own I-40 from Knoxville to Memphis and everything on the way. Houston Nutt, Dan Mullen, Les Miles, and the city of Memphis better get ready. Despite distance, Memphis is still our backyard, and Orgeron has more notoriaty and in-roads than both Mullen and Nutt put together. Mississipppi continues to get more talent rich by the year. First week on the job and already the response from Mississippi recruits has been great. We may not dominate, but Orgeron is going to pluck away 3 or 4 of the top 10 players year in, year out.

And then there is Lousisiana, the place he calls home. Nick Saban was already going to be a huge crick in the neck, won't be long before Orgeron becomes his pain in the azz. Miles has the the best class this year, but he won't be able survive the cajuns if he continues to fumble away national players like Joe McKnight or Reuben Randle.

On his way back to Knoxville he would hit up a few cities a second time and cap off a week long trip with a half a dozen 4 star committments.
 
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I think CLK will recruit Tennessee as well as Coach O because he is the "face" of UT football and if he want's to close the border then he needs to put time in with the Coachs and the recruits. I'm sure he'll do other areas as well but Tennessee needs to be one of his priorities.
 
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As long as the University of Tennessee still exists in the state of Tennessee and not in either Texas or Oklahoma, no amount of Texas faces will get Texas kids out of that state. They are born and bred to play in the Red River Shootout, and those who can't make it there go to Tech or A&M.
 
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crusse10 said:
As long as the University of Tennessee still exists in the state of Tennessee and not in either Texas or Oklahoma, no amount of Texas faces will get Texas kids out of that state. They are born and bred to play in the Red River Shootout, and those who can't make it there go to Tech or A&M.
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Lennon Creer, Denarious Moore?

We've had quite a few Texas players over the years, and several from Oklahoma.
 
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crusse10 said:
As long as the University of Tennessee still exists in the state of Tennessee and not in either Texas or Oklahoma, no amount of Texas faces will get Texas kids out of that state. They are born and bred to play in the Red River Shootout, and those who can't make it there go to Tech or A&M.
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Explain how Mack Brown has failed to recruit the state of Texas then.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
Explain how Mack Brown has failed to recruit the state of Texas then.
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You're right. Vince Young wasn't from Texas.
Neither was Colt McCoy.
And Limas Sweed didn't come from Texas.
Selvin Young wasn't from Texas either.
Brian Orakpo wasn't born in Texas.
Cedric Griffin
Aaron Ross
Michael Huff
Michael Griffin
Justin Blalock
I'll put it this way. 107 of the players on Texas' roster are from the state of Texas.
9 players on this year's roster are from outside the state of Texas.

But you're right, Mack Brown doesn't know how to get players from Texas...
 
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crusse10 said:
You're right. Vince Young wasn't from Texas.
Neither was Colt McCoy.
And Limas Sweed didn't come from Texas.
Selvin Young wasn't from Texas either.
Brian Orakpo wasn't born in Texas.
Cedric Griffin
Aaron Ross
Michael Huff
Michael Griffin
Justin Blalock
I'll put it this way. 107 of the players on Texas' roster are from the state of Texas.
9 players on this year's roster are from outside the state of Texas.

But you're right, Mack Brown doesn't know how to get players from Texas...
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Adrian Peterson got away Jamarkus McFarland just committed to OU. Infact look at all the 5 and 4 star kids from Texas who committed to OU in recent years. So Brown doesnt get them all!
 
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Why do you think I said they were bred to play in the Red River Shootout? They either go to Texas or Oklahoma. If my post were read, it'd be clear that I understood certain players left, but they didn't go far.
As long as the University of Tennessee still exists in the state of Tennessee and not in either Texas or Oklahoma, no amount of Texas faces will get Texas kids out of that state. They are born and bred to play in the Red River Shootout, and those who can't make it there go to Tech or A&M.
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We need to be able to recruit nationally. But if we can get a few great recruits from Ca, Tx, and FL it will only make us better. But Like i've been saying in other threads we still gonna have to coach them up.
 
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crusse10 said:
You're right. Vince Young wasn't from Texas.
Neither was Colt McCoy.
And Limas Sweed didn't come from Texas.
Selvin Young wasn't from Texas either.
Brian Orakpo wasn't born in Texas.
Cedric Griffin
Aaron Ross
Michael Huff
Michael Griffin
Justin Blalock
I'll put it this way. 107 of the players on Texas' roster are from the state of Texas.
9 players on this year's roster are from outside the state of Texas.

But you're right, Mack Brown doesn't know how to get players from Texas...
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Show me how many of the top players were swiped away by SEC schools.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
Show me how many of the top players were swiped away by SEC schools.
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3 of the top 4 in Texas aren't going to Texas this year
Can't find 08
Top 2 left in 07
3 of the top 4 left in 06
Can't find 05
Adrian Peterson and Rhett Bomar went to OU. 3 of the top 4 left Texas
4 of the top 5 left in 03

It really looks like he's dominated Texas recruiting.
 
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Guys, I really think it falls this way.

O takes LA and FL

Chaney and Creeg take Big 10 country

L Kiffin takes TN and CA

M Kiffen will help where needed

Reeves will take NC and SC

We need Chris Beatty RB WVU to cover VA and Maryland

We need Bobby Kenndey WR Texas to cover Texas

We need Lance Thompson to cover GA

That leaves DB to help in Big 12 country
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Like I said, yet again, Texas/Oklahoma get the kids from Texas. I did not mention, but it goes without saying, that those on the eastern side of Texas have an inkling to go across the border eastward to LSU.

Anyway, for the 2009 top 10 in Texas (as of July of 08), 5 are going to Texas, 2 to Oklahoma, 2 to LSU (both from just west of the border of Louisiana), and 1 to A&M.

In 2007, 5 of the top 10 went to Texas, 1 went to LSU (again, just west of the LA border), 1 to Michigan (who is now at Arkansas, and was from the Texas part of Texarkana), 2 to Oklahoma State, and 1 to Tennessee.

In 2006, 6 of the 10 went to Texas, 1 to Oklahoma, 1 to A&M, 1 to USC, and 1 to UGA.

In 2004, 3 of the 10 went to Texas, 3 to Oklahoma, 2 to A&M, 1 to Okie State, and 1 to Miami.


So my point still exists, the players go to Texas or Oklahoma (with the exception of the eastern border of Texas, who consider Texas or LSU) and for those who don't get to Texas or OU, they go to A&M, Tech, or Okie State.
Maybe 1-2 a year leave the area they are from (Texas/Oklahoma/LSU), but you'll never change that. Bringing in 1 guy to recruit won't stop them from staying near home, because the programs there are so good right now, that there's no reason to go to a Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, etc. It just won't change their mindset.
 
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