Comparative Stats after 2 games

[SeniorDrill]

Sorry about format. If anyone can get side by side, feel free to modify.
Team Stats - Through games 09/06/2014
Rank Stat
OKLAHOMA
Total Offense
29 508.0
Rushing Offense
40 222.0
Passing Offense
40 286.0
Team Passing Efficiency
64 137.43
Scoring Offense
9 50.0
Total Defense
28 286.5
Rushing Defense
13 74.0
Passing Yards Allowed
T-53 212.5
Team Passing Efficiency Defense
26 100.70
Scoring Defense
T-14 11.5
Turnover Margin
T-19 1.50
3rd Down Conversion Pct
58 0.444
4th Down Conversion Pct
T-1 1.000
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense
T-44 0.324
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense
96 0.750
Red Zone Offense
T-50 0.900
Red Zone Defense
T-18 0.600
Net Punting
T-81 36.57
Punt Returns
68 7.20
Kickoff Returns
23 26.40
First Downs Offense
T-25 52
First Downs Defense
T-64 38
Fewest Penalties Per Game
T-15 4.00
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game
T-51 47.00
Time of Possession
92 28:04

TENNESSEE
Total Offense
81 399.0
Rushing Offense
88 139.0
Passing Offense
54 260.0
Team Passing Efficiency
61 138.69
Scoring Offense
T-48 36.0
Total Defense
29 287.5
Rushing Defense
49 120.5
Passing Yards Allowed
30 167.0
Team Passing Efficiency Defense
25 99.52
Scoring Defense
T-21 13.0
Turnover Margin
T-19 1.50
3rd Down Conversion Pct
40 0.472
4th Down Conversion Pct
T-89 0.000
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense
13 0.226
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense
T-47 0.333
Red Zone Offense
T-44 0.923
Red Zone Defense
T-88 1.000
Net Punting
76 37.14
Punt Returns
14 21.00
Kickoff Returns
68 20.75
First Downs Offense
T-48 47
First Downs Defense
T-21 28
Fewest Penalties Per Game
T-15 4.00
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game
11 27.00
Time of Possession
22 32:49

 

[ItsAllVols]

Make it a screen shot and post the picture like this, I changed it to a PDF. But nice work :clapping:

 

[SeniorDrill]

Thanks very much! Now open for pros and cons. Let's start with both teams that Tennessee played had higher power ratings after week 2. Utah State is 65th and Arkansas State is 72nd. La Tech is 79th and Tulsa 113th. That says to me that these stats would be much closer in all categories if the opponents were comparable. In other words don't expect a repeat of Oregon and Oklahoma hanging a 100 on the Vols as one analyst said who was played over and over yesterday!

 

[gogators13]

Here's one thing your stats don't show.... Sooners had both teams blown out by the first half. Played backup players in the second half of those games. LA Tech scored 13 of their 16 points in the 4th qt. against the Sooners backups. Tulsa scored their only 7 points in the 3rd qt. when the Sooner already had 31 point lead at the half.

Tennessee has had to play their starters basically the entire games so far this season. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into those stats.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

Here's one thing your stats don't show.... Sooners had both teams blown out by the first half. Played backup players in the second half of those games. LA Tech scored 13 of their 16 points in the 4th qt. against the Sooners backups. Tulsa scored their only 7 points in the 3rd qt. when the Sooner already had 31 point lead at the half.

Tennessee has had to play their starters basically the entire games so far this season. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into those stats.

Here is the stat you left out little Gator......

La. Tech went 4-8 last year.
Tulsa went 3-9 last year.
Utah St. went 9-5 with a bowl victory last year and a Heisman hopeful.
Arky St. went 8-5 with a bowl victory.

And yet in total defense Oklahoma is ranked #28 and Tennessee is ranked #29.

Thanks very much! Now open for pros and cons. Let's start with both teams that Tennessee played had higher power ratings after week 2. Utah State is 65th and Arkansas State is 72nd. La Tech is 79th and Tulsa 113th. That says to me that these stats would be much closer in all categories if the opponents were comparable. In other words don't expect a repeat of Oregon and Oklahoma hanging a 100 on the Vols as one analyst said who was played over and over yesterday!

Been preaching this since last Sunday....fluff games do exactly that....pad stats. Tennessee played bowl teams and earned those stats against solid opponents for 4 quarters....even though Utah State was truly done by half time and Arky State was too....the scores don't indicate how UT was never really in trouble of Arky St. coming back and beating them....along with no screen game used in that game IMHO to work on other portions of the playbook. :good!:

 

[supersmo18]

Here is the stat you left out little Gator......

La. Tech went 4-8 last year.
Tulsa went 3-9 last year.
Utah St. went 9-5 with a bowl victory last year and a Heisman hopeful.
Arky St. went 8-5 with a bowl victory.

And yet in total defense Oklahoma is ranked #28 and Tennessee is ranked #29.

Little Hatchling, IMO.

 

[soda23]

Here is the stat you left out little Gator......

La. Tech went 4-8 last year.
Tulsa went 3-9 last year.
Utah St. went 9-5 with a bowl victory last year and a Heisman hopeful.
Arky St. went 8-5 with a bowl victory.

And yet in total defense Oklahoma is ranked #28 and Tennessee is ranked #29.

meh .... last years stats are last years stats ......Didn't USU return the fewest starters of anyone ?
We lost to Vandy last year ... this year we won't

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

meh .... last years stats are last years stats ......Didn't USU return the fewest starters of anyone ?
We lost to Vandy last year ... this year we won't

Well coached teams with solid athletes that contend for their conference titles each season.....doesn't matter :blink: In this type of discussion it most certainly matters.

Not to mention our defense has had to face 2 tuck it and run QBs which changes the DC's play calling/scheming....Trevor Knight while a runner is not as much of a threat doing it as the last 2 teams UT just played.

 

[DougVol]

Here's one thing your stats don't show.... Sooners had both teams blown out by the first half. Played backup players in the second half of those games. LA Tech scored 13 of their 16 points in the 4th qt. against the Sooners backups. Tulsa scored their only 7 points in the 3rd qt. when the Sooner already had 31 point lead at the half.

Tennessee has had to play their starters basically the entire games so far this season. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into those stats.

Tennessee has 65 starters. We play everybody. From 1st quarter to last.

 

[bUTchLookin4Dimez]

Well coached teams with solid athletes that contend for their conference titles each season.....doesn't matter :blink: In this type of discussion it most certainly matters.

Not to mention our defense has had to face 2 tuck it and run QBs which changes the DC's play calling/scheming....Trevor Knight while a runner is not as much of a threat doing it as the last 2 teams UT just played.

I don't think this is stressed enough. In years past we would've made them look like heisman performers. (Ex. Florida's crappy QBs).

 

[gogators13]

Here is the stat you left out little Gator......

La. Tech went 4-8 last year.
Tulsa went 3-9 last year.
Utah St. went 9-5 with a bowl victory last year and a Heisman hopeful.
Arky St. went 8-5 with a bowl victory.

And yet in total defense Oklahoma is ranked #28 and Tennessee is ranked #29.



Been preaching this since last Sunday....fluff games do exactly that....pad stats. Tennessee played bowl teams and earned those stats against solid opponents for 4 quarters....even though Utah State was truly done by half time and Arky State was too....the scores don't indicate how UT was never really in trouble of Arky St. coming back and beating them....along with no screen game used in that game IMHO to work on other portions of the playbook. :good!:

Using a teams last year win record is worthless. AUB went 3-9 in 2012 and went 12-1 in 2013. FL went 11-2 in 2012 and went 4-8 in 2013. Trying to make one cupcake look better than another cupcake is just as worthless. We are talking about 2014.... hmy:

 

[KBVol]

Here's one thing your stats don't show.... Sooners had both teams blown out by the first half. Played backup players in the second half of those games. LA Tech scored 13 of their 16 points in the 4th qt. against the Sooners backups. Tulsa scored their only 7 points in the 3rd qt. when the Sooner already had 31 point lead at the half.

Tennessee has had to play their starters basically the entire games so far this season. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into those stats.

You really need to study the posts of the respected mainstay Florida posters on here....guys like 99Gator, HialeahGator, LawrenceWright. Your posts generally fall well short of theirs in terms of content, sense, respect and tact.

UT had both games in hand by halftime. Utah St never remotely threatened us and a ton of 2nd and 3rd team guys played all throughout the second half. Arky St was similar, albeit to a lesser extent. We were in control at half and, as young teams tend to do, especially after a big opening week win and after a short week of practice, didn't finish the game well.....still, the game's eventual outcome was never in doubt.

To say that "we HAD to play our starters" for the full games to get those wins makes you either dishonest or ill-informed. Either way, it doesn't put you in a good light on here. If you're gonna post regularly on here, a rival team's forum, which it appears you intend to do, try being less of an ass.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

-Doesn't matter
-We suck
-We will lose to any superior opponent even though I say inferior opponents can beat us
Sorry, just practicing my negavol.

 

[gogators13]

You really need to study the posts of the respected mainstay Florida posters on here....guys like 99Gator, HialeahGator, LawrenceWright. Your posts generally fall well short of theirs in terms of content, sense, respect and tact.

UT had both games in hand by halftime. Utah St never remotely threatened us and a ton of 2nd and 3rd team guys played all throughout the second half. Arky St was similar, albeit to a lesser extent. We were in control at half and, as young teams tend to do, especially after a big opening week win and after a short week of practice, didn't finish the game well.....still, the game's eventual outcome was never in doubt.

To say that "we HAD to play our starters" for the full games to get those wins makes you either dishonest or ill-informed. Either way, it doesn't put you in a good light on here. If you're gonna post regularly on here, a rival team's forum, which it appears you intend to do, try being less of an ass.

There's a big difference in plugging in a few backups and switching out all the starters. Worley, A.J., and several other players have played from start to finish the last two games. Rotating the DL or plugging in a DB/WR wouldn't be playing all the backups. No one stated that UT needed to play their starters to win those games???? The fact is that UT decided to leave several of them in the game. It could of been to get more reps or the coaches didn't think that the young backups were ready. I guess you are doing a little mind reading these days of making false statements????

Even after cutting through all this.... It doesn't change that the 2nd half stats that OU put up were with their backups.

 

[OrangeIsLife]

Here's one thing your stats don't show.... Sooners had both teams blown out by the first half. Played backup players in the second half of those games. LA Tech scored 13 of their 16 points in the 4th qt. against the Sooners backups. Tulsa scored their only 7 points in the 3rd qt. when the Sooner already had 31 point lead at the half.

Tennessee has had to play their starters basically the entire games so far this season. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into those stats.

So what you're saying is our new/young players have two full games against quality opponents under their belt while OU's only have about one game against sub-standard opponents under their's.

 

[gogators13]

So what you're saying is our new/young players have two full games against quality opponents under their belt while OU's only have about one game against sub-standard opponents under their's.

We can debate what are "quality opponents"..... Using last years win/lose record for these teams doesn't hold water.

I wouldn't really consider any of the four teams "quality opponents"...... Time will tell and stats don't always show what happened on the field.

 

[KBVol]

There's a big difference in plugging in a few backups and switching out all the starters. Worley, A.J., and several other players have played from start to finish the last two games. Rotating the DL or plugging in a DB/WR wouldn't be playing all the backups. No one stated that UT needed to play their starters to win those games???? The fact is that UT decided to leave several of them in the game. It could of been to get more reps or the coaches didn't think that the young backups were ready. I guess you are doing a little mind reading these days of making false statement????

Even after cutting through all this.... It doesn't change that the 2nd half stats that OU put up were with their backups.

First off, Worley did not play start to finish vs Utah St. Worley came out with approximately 10 minutes left to play and Peterman played the last couple drives....Peterman or Dobbs could've played the entire 4th quarter as the game was well in hand at the half and Worley's services were no longer required.

You completely missed the point chief, not surprising. You stated/implied UT HAD to play their starters to make sure they won the first 2 games. That's wrong and I pointed that out.

As for what the stats for both teams mean after 2 games, I would actually agree with you, very little. If you'd left it at that I wouldn't have responded to your post. Your attempt to take a shot at UT by saying that UT had to play their starters from the opening kickoff to the final horn was wrong and needed to be corrected. I've read a few of your posts on here. Try to up your game a little bit chief, you're falling short of the bar that some of the regular Florida posters have set.

 

[DD4ME]

Make it a screen shot and post the picture like this, I changed it to a PDF. But nice work :clapping:

So these are the obvious mismatches.


OK run D 》 UT run O
OK red zone D 》 UT red zone O

God Speed team 118.

 

[emzeeee]

Did some futzing with the formatting

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Link so you can see the bigger version.

 

[KBVol]

Did some futzing with the formatting

http://i.imgur.com/TrMAEvC.png

Link so you can see the bigger version.

Well done zeeee.... Thanks.

 

[DAVOL]

Guys there is no need to pay any attention to gogators 13 he thinks Utah State/Arkansas State and Eastern Michigan are comparable programs nevermind that in the previous 10 seasons EMU won a grand total of 27 games and never went to a bowl so that shows what he knows about football.

 

[gogators13]

Guys there is no need to pay any attention to gogators 13 he thinks Utah State/Arkansas State and Eastern Michigan are comparable programs nevermind that in the previous 10 seasons EMU won a grand total of 27 games and never went to a bowl so that shows what he knows about football.

Yes, I think they are all cupcakes and comparing cupcakes to see what team might be better is sad.... hmy: That's what that whole post was about. SEC teams shouldn't we worried or using cupcakes as a standard.

 

[DAVOL]

Yes, I think they are all cupcakes and comparing cupcakes to see what team might be better is sad.... hmy: That's what that whole post was about. SEC teams shouldn't we worried or using cupcakes as a standard.

Except you continually miss the fact that either Emu does not even qualify as a cupcake or ASU and USU are better than cupcakes cause they are nowhere in the same league of each other.

 

[SeniorDrill]

Anybody got the feeling as I do that this will still be a ball game in the fourth quarter which is what Butch wants? Then which team is the pressure on? Always concerned with officiating in these kind of games!

 

[gogators13]

Except you continually miss the fact that either Emu does not even qualify as a cupcake or ASU and USU are better than cupcakes cause they are nowhere in the same league of each other.

I'm not going to try and make a cupcake into a cake.... :clap: Most of the SEC teams should beat those teams. EMU was bad..... ASU was bad..... and USU was bad...... Even Vandy and KY would beat those teams.... :huggy:

It doesn't make UT or FL any lesser of a team but I wouldn't use those teams as a base line.

Heck, FL got punked by a cupcake last year... Ga. So.... :cray: