Complete Ineptitude in Government

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n_huffhines

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Obama's health care plan calls for nutritional data to be provided on menus by restaurants with more than 20 locations (by 2012, I believe). The idea is people will actually learn from the data that greasy burgers are high in calories, and they will avoid them. 2 problems:

1) There isn't conclusive support that making this data available will change eating habits. There is a lot of support stating the policy will result in no changes.

2) One chain (can't remember who right now, but I can find the info once at home) claims compliance with the new law will cost them $50 million.

I don't understand how anybody can trust any part of government to do right by us....right under our noses they are mismanaging us into oblivion. What are they doing behind closed doors (foreign policy, special interests, etc.)?
 
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I'd prefer to see them simply require that it be posted online. Would be cheaper.

But I think a lot do that already, or that at least there are some third parties doing that.
 
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All the big chains do it already, some of us look at the calorie counts as a sort of challenge.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'd prefer to see them simply require that it be posted online. Would be cheaper.

But I think a lot do that already, or that at least there are some third parties doing that.
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Wendy's puts them on the wall, already. I would give preference to restaurants who give nutritional data, but I don't want government to force it.

Obviously they understand there are economies of scale to be considered (otherwise why wouldn't they require all restaurants rather than just those with 20+ locations), but I guess they don't really care that huge chains have a much easier time complying than somebody trying to grow into a huge chain.
 
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Great that it's available, no reason for government to be involved.

Is it right for government to tag cigarettes and not big macs?
 
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YorkVol said:
All the big chains do it already, some of us look at the calorie counts as a sort of challenge.
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When I diet I do insane cutting Monday-Friday and binge on the weekends. I'd usually start my weekends off by purchasing about 3000 calories from Wendy's.
 
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Lots of small restaurants will use higher quality or local products as their edge over the big chain competition. They will often advertise their nutritional data as proof they serve a better quality meal with better service and price. Overall a good idea and I would hope societal pressures would continue to push for openness, but without government mandates.
 
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nbakerld said:
When I diet I do insane cutting Monday-Friday and binge on the weekends. I'd usually start my weekends off by purchasing about 3000 calories from Wendy's.
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So you get the junior burger and a diet coke?:)
 
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YorkVol said:
So you get the junior burger and a diet coke?:)
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You'd be surprised, my normal order went:

4 Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers
Small Chicken Nugget
Large Fries
Frostee

Sometimes I'd do as many as 5 JBC's and add a coke, but I try to avoid soda :)
 
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"This one time, I was forced to eat greasy burgers from a fast food joint. Right after that, I was forced to hang out in a smoky bar."

I hear these stories all the time and I am so glad that our government has stepped in to stop these abuses.
 
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nbakerld said:
You'd be surprised, my normal order went:

4 Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers
Small Chicken Nugget
Large Fries
Frostee

Sometimes I'd do as many as 5 JBC's and add a coke, but I try to avoid soda :)
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Dare I say. . .fat man in a little coat?








You read that in your avatars voice, didn't you?
 
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therealUT said:
"This one time, I was forced to eat greasy burgers from a fast food joint. Right after that, I was forced to hang out in a smoky bar."

I hear these stories all the time and I am so glad that our government has stepped in to stop these abuses.
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So providing nutritional data is a bad idea?
 
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nbakerld said:
Wendy's puts them on the wall, already. I would give preference to restaurants who give nutritional data, but I don't want government to force it.

Obviously they understand there are economies of scale to be considered (otherwise why wouldn't they require all restaurants rather than just those with 20+ locations), but I guess they don't really care that huge chains have a much easier time complying than somebody trying to grow into a huge chain.
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Maybe it's because there are thousands and thousands getting welfare benefits as a result of poor health and/or obesity.
 
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YorkVol said:
Dare I say. . .fat man in a little coat?

You read that in your avatars voice, didn't you?
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That actually happened. David Spade was a writer for SNL (before he was a cast member) and Farley was trying to get him to goof off instead of working.

The Chris Farley Show is one of the best biographies I've ever read, and a must for any fan.
 
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I would like everyone to provide nutritional data on their own, not because they're forced to.
 
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They should just give'em the tobacco treatment and force big food to put pictures of morbidly obese people at their worst on all of the food packaging. Possibly forcing the restaurants to be located next to a gym or workout location might enhance the sense of guilt as well.

Also all organic food should be represented only by angelic or heavenly symbols to reinforce its inherent goodness and superiority to fast food.

Problem solved.
 
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It's pretty clear what they're doing and what they've been doing is..... Taking care of themselves. Somewhere i'd say, quite some time ago, it went form serving the people to serving themselves.
 
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