Conspiracy in Iowa?

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Santorum is now ahead by 34 votes, but eight precincts' vote totals are "missing" and so the result can never be certified?

Have the Republican Overlords put the kibosh on a Santorum victory for fear that it will become a distraction and rob the establishment candidate of momentum heading into South Carolina on Saturday?

Think about it. If the actual results were a Santorum win by a few hundred votes, that would have been huge news and would have cast a serious shadow over Romney's campaign. As is, Romney can now go back to the "it was basically a tie" mantra.

Eight precincts missing their votes?
 

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No matter what, it was always bound to be a dead heat. After his landslide in NH, Romney makes Iowa irrelevant with a win in SC.
 
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It doesn't matter. The delegate split will be the same and Santorum got the push from winning the night anyway.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
does it really matter? If Romney wins SC and FL, its over
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But what effect would it have had on South Carolina if it was announced three days before the vote there that Romney had actually lost Iowa by a decent margin? Say, 300 votes?

And in the general, what does it say that Romney apparently cannot win even half of the votes of his own party in any of these primaries or caucuses?

By the way, it is being reported that earlier in the week it was leaked that Santorum was ahead by 80 votes.

And, did you know that the Iowa Republican party at the end of last month suddenly, and without explanation, moved the vote counting process away from the state's GOP headquarters, which is where it is supposed to be done and that this was done such that the votes would be counted in private?
 
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lawgator1 said:
But what effect would it have had on South Carolina if it was announced three days before the vote there that Romney had actually lost Iowa by a decent margin? Say, 300 votes?
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There has never been much correlation between victory in Iowa and victory in SC.
 
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I don't see that the Iowa Republican party is somehow operating under the control of the RNC or other national powers.

Agree with GAVol - Santorum has been essentially viewed as the winner or co-winner. Given the number of precincts, there is statistically no way that 8 missing ones would swing the vote to anywhere close to a 300 gain for Santorum.
 
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I don't know that it matters all that much. I believe the representative vote in Iowa doesn't have to be tied to the popular vote, anyways.
 
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volinbham said:
I don't see that the Iowa Republican party is somehow operating under the control of the RNC or other national powers.

Agree with GAVol - Santorum has been essentially viewed as the winner or co-winner. Given the number of precincts, there is statistically no way that 8 missing ones would swing the vote to anywhere close to a 300 gain for Santorum.
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\nvm
 
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nbakerld said:
I don't know that it matters all that much. I believe the representative vote in Iowa doesn't have to be tied to the popular vote, anyways.
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That's the thing. Really it's just a screwy end to a screwy process.
 
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Agree with GA and bham,

Santorum won the night, no matter matter what the end results were. Iowa served no purpose other than to give someone a springboard toward the following primaries. Santorum won that boost, but it doesn't appear to have helped. In the end, the result in Iowa were meaningless.
 
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bamawriter said:
Agree with GA and bham,

Santorum won the night, no matter matter what the end results were. Iowa served no purpose other than to give someone a springboard toward the following primaries. Santorum won that boost, but it doesn't appear to have helped. In the end, the result in Iowa were meaningless.
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The boost would have been significant had it occurred that night.

Imagine the change in the dynamic had Romney lost Iowa !!!

And imagine the dynamic now if it were announced that it was certified that Romney lost Iowa.

As is, he gets to go around now claiming, in his words, a "virtual tie."

When he won by 8 votes, it was a "major victory." He loses by (at least) 34 and suddenly its a "virtual tie."

How do you lose 8 precincts' votes?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The boost would have been significant had it occurred that night.

Imagine the change in the dynamic had Romney lost Iowa !!!

And imagine the dynamic now if it were announced that it was certified that Romney lost Iowa.

As is, he gets to go around now claiming, in his words, a "virtual tie."

When he won by 8 votes, it was a "major victory." He loses by (at least) 34 and suddenly its a "virtual tie."

How do you lose 8 precincts' votes?
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Honestly, I didn't think Romney would do as well as he did in Iowa. A win or a very, very close second was a major coup for him in a state he largely ignored - particularly compared to Santorum who virtually lived there.

I don't recall it being viewed as a "major victory" because of 8 votes and in fact the biggest story was Santorum because he came from so low in the polls.
 
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doesnt matter who wins the presidency.. democrat or republican, the potus is just a puppet
 
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lawgator1 said:
The boost would have been significant had it occurred that night.

Imagine the change in the dynamic had Romney lost Iowa !!!
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Santorum won the boost one way or the other. He was the story of the night, period. The boost might have been a little greater had he been announced the winner, but how much greater? I doubt much. Had he beat Mitt handily, that would have been a different story.
 
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bamawriter said:
Santorum won the boost one way or the other. He was the story of the night, period. The boost might have been a little greater had he been announced the winner, but how much greater? I doubt much. Had he beat Mitt handily, that would have been a different story.
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Well, the problem is that, because of the inexplicably missing 8 precincts, we don't know the magnitude of Romney's loss in Iowa ....
 
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Either way, Santorum was going to fall on his face in NH and kill momentum.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, the problem is that, because of the inexplicably missing 8 precincts, we don't know the magnitude of Romney's loss in Iowa ....
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Those 8 precincts would have had to come in drastically different than the rest of the state to give Santorum a statistically significant victory.
 
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