Cops find themselves in arms race with criminals

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Cops find themselves in arms race with criminals - CNN.com

The officers say they need to level the playing field to survive. And so, on a bright October day about a dozen Palm Beach County sheriff's deputies brought out their big guns at the local firing range.
Rifles crackled. Shell casings flew. Bullets sailed at 3,200 feet per second through paper targets set up a football field's length away.

The sharpshooters weren't training for a SWAT team. These were the deputies who patrol the streets and roads from the glittery Gold Coast to the swamps of the Everglades.
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The fatal shooting in September of a Miami-Dade police officer by a man using an assault weapon put all South Florida police departments on edge. Several other officers were wounded by the gunfire.

"It's not nice we have to arm ourselves like the soldiers in Iraq," said Sgt. Laurie Pfeil, who supervises a sheriff's road patrol in Palm Beach County and is now certified to carry a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle on the job. It's the civilian version of the military's M-16 used by U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

"We are like soldiers. It is a war, " says Sgt Pfeil.
Across the country, at least 62 police officers have been gunned down this year -- a record pace, said Robert Tessaro, the associate director for law enforcement relations for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
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Thoughts?
 
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I have a cousin who is a Metro policeman in Nashville. He hails from a very staunch GOP background. After working with an ATF task force for a while, his stance on gun control drifted much more to the center as opposed to a hard core NRA stance.
 
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It's a slippery slope. I'm an avid hunter, yet I see no need to own a AR-15. But what draws the line? Can a semi-automatic deer rifle be considered extreme? In my opinion no but you let the anti-gun nuts start banning guns who knows where it ends?

Yes, I've got several rifles and shotguns (2 .30-06's, a .22, a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge, a 10 gauge and 2 muzzleloaders), but I fail to see why one needs semi-automatic assault rifles.

Common sense needs to be applied here.
 
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vader said:
I have a cousin who is a Metro policeman in Nashville. He hails from a very staunch GOP background. After working with an ATF task force for a while, his stance on gun control drifted much more to the center as opposed to a hard core NRA stance.
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I relate to your cousin.
 
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justingroves said:
It's a slippery slope. I'm an avid hunter, yet I see no need to own a AR-15. But what draws the line? Can a semi-automatic deer rifle be considered extreme? In my opinion no but you let the anti-gun nuts start banning guns who knows where it ends?

Yes, I've got several rifles and shotguns (2 .30-06's, a .22, a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge, a 10 gauge and 2 muzzleloaders), but I fail to see why one needs semi-automatic assault rifles.

Common sense needs to be applied here.
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Basically, you are telling me I cannot hunt long range any more with my 50 cal sniper rifle?

:no:
 
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justingroves said:
It's a slippery slope. I'm an avid hunter, yet I see no need to own a AR-15. But what draws the line? Can a semi-automatic deer rifle be considered extreme? In my opinion no but you let the anti-gun nuts start banning guns who knows where it ends?

Yes, I've got several rifles and shotguns (2 .30-06's, a .22, a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge, a 10 gauge and 2 muzzleloaders), but I fail to see why one needs semi-automatic assault rifles.

Common sense needs to be applied here.
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I am sure you fail to see why certain people say certain things as well but I would hope you aren't for curtailing speech.
 
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allvol123 said:
I am sure you fail to see why certain people say certain things as well but I would hope you aren't for curtailing speech.
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I'm not saying they should be illegal, but is it necessary?

I don't trust the large majority of the population with sharp objects much less a gun but I'm not going to tell them what to do.
 
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It's been this way at least since Prohibition. When the gangsters got Thompson machine guns, the police had to play catch up. Then when the criminals went to the Browning automatic rifle, the police played catch up again.

Same song, different verse...
 
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Legalize drugs and the gang violence will be reduced -- just like prohibition.

Kind of reminds me of that movie, "Traffic"
 
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jdsa said:
Legalize drugs and the gang violence will be reduced -- just like prohibition.

Kind of reminds me of that movie, "Traffic"
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Of all the drug legalization arguments, that one has always made the most sense to me. The problem though is that I'm sure they would move to something else.
 
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GAVol said:
Of all the drug legalization arguments, that one has always made the most sense to me. The problem though is that I'm sure they would move to something else.
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All it means it that people would go the cheap route and purchase "bad" improperly refined drugs instead of what they could buy at the local crack shack that has all the government billings and checks.
 
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Police should have a 50 cal over the shoulder. A M-4 with 3 round burst to carry and a C130 gunship for support:)
 
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