Dabo Swinney

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Ainge mentioned that he didn't like
Dabo's recruiting tactics, but refused to throw him under the bus on the radio. Does anyone have any idea what he is referencing??
 
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I know Dabo got a complaint from a few humanist organizations about his overzealous attitude about Christianity. Might be it.
 
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they've had one good year, he ain't all that & a bag of chips....

They've won 10 games or more the last five years and beaten the likes of Notre Dame, FSU, LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma x2, UGA etc. over that span

I'm not sure why, but many fans cannot admit that another coach/program is successful. Clemson has accomplished a lot and is currently an elite program, no shame in admitting it.
 
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If I'm not mistaken Tennessee and Clemson were in a recruiting battle with one of the current players on Tennessee's roster, when it came apparent the recruit was going to pick Tennessee Dabo visited the recruit in home with his mother and told him he believed God wanted him at Clemson. I will try to dig up the story.

My opinion on this is while I'm a believer and born again christian I would never use my religion to manipulate someone into making a decision.
 
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If I'm not mistaken Tennessee and Clemson were in a recruiting battle with one of the current players on Tennessee's roster, when it came apparent the recruit was going to pick Tennessee Dabo visited the recruit in home with his mother and told him he believed God wanted him at Clemson. I will try to dig up the story.

My opinion on this is while I'm a believer and born again christian I would never use my religion to manipulate someone into making a decision.
probably Josh Malone.
 
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Perhaps this is what Ainge was referring to?

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Schools like Clemson, FSU, Ohio State etc are so lucky because their conference has a lack of depth of quality teams. When you only have 1 or 2 tough games a year it's easier to win 10 games. Clemson does have some big wins on their resume and Dabo is doing a great job but I'm sorry the ACC is not the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. It showed this bowl season with 10-11 win teams like UNC, FSU, Michigan State, Northwestern all getting run off the field (yes MSU lost to Bama) but imagine these schools playing in the SEC West or having Tennessee's schedule. They wouldn't make the playoff and a school like Northwestern would have won like 7-8 games
 
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Schools like Clemson, FSU, Ohio State etc are so lucky because their conference has a lack of depth of quality teams. When you only have 1 or 2 tough games a year it's easier to win 10 games. Clemson does have some big wins on their resume and Dabo is doing a great job but I'm sorry the ACC is not the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. It showed this bowl season with 10-11 win teams like UNC, FSU, Michigan State, Northwestern all getting run off the field (yes MSU lost to Bama) but imagine these schools playing in the SEC West or having Tennessee's schedule. They wouldn't make the playoff and a school like Northwestern would have won like 7-8 games

Very well said post. Nice job and I completely agree with you.
 
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Schools like Clemson, FSU, Ohio State etc are so lucky because their conference has a lack of depth of quality teams. When you only have 1 or 2 tough games a year it's easier to win 10 games. Clemson does have some big wins on their resume and Dabo is doing a great job but I'm sorry the ACC is not the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. It showed this bowl season with 10-11 win teams like UNC, FSU, Michigan State, Northwestern all getting run off the field (yes MSU lost to Bama) but imagine these schools playing in the SEC West or having Tennessee's schedule. They wouldn't make the playoff and a school like Northwestern would have won like 7-8 games


This is correct.
 
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Schools like Clemson, FSU, Ohio State etc are so lucky because their conference has a lack of depth of quality teams. When you only have 1 or 2 tough games a year it's easier to win 10 games. Clemson does have some big wins on their resume and Dabo is doing a great job but I'm sorry the ACC is not the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. It showed this bowl season with 10-11 win teams like UNC, FSU, Michigan State, Northwestern all getting run off the field (yes MSU lost to Bama) but imagine these schools playing in the SEC West or having Tennessee's schedule. They wouldn't make the playoff and a school like Northwestern would have won like 7-8 games

Clemson has the roster talent and staff to hang with anyone in the country. Don't kid yourself. If Clemson is in the east, as they would be, they're in all likliehood in ATL the last 3-5 years representing the East.
 
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Clemson has the roster talent and staff to hang with anyone in the country. Don't kid yourself. If Clemson is in the east, as they would be, they're in all likliehood in ATL the last 3-5 years representing the East.

His commentary was on depth which is different. Do you think Clemson would have gone undefeated with UT's schedule this year? That's what they did in the ACC and that is the bigger question. Does Iowa play in the SECC? No but they did in the B1G. This isn't a question of could the best teams of one conference win in another conference because of course they would. It's would they win as much or make the playoffs as easily and the answer is highly unlikely.
 
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His commentary was on depth which is different. Do you think Clemson would have gone undefeated with UT's schedule this year? That's what they did in the ACC and that is the bigger question. Does Iowa play in the SECC? No but they did in the B1G. This isn't a question of could the best teams of one conference win in another conference because of course they would. It's would they win as much or make the playoffs as easily and the answer is highly unlikely.

And I said Clemson has a roster to hang with anyone, that implies that yes, they could hang in the SEC as consistently as anyone, save for Bama, from a depth standpoint. They've been recruiting at a top 10 level for nearly a decade. The Clemsoning moniker came into existence because they lost games they shouldn't have, much like Richt they've likely underachieved in years past. I think Dabo has grown as a HC and has improved his staff from 2009,when he took over full time. This program now has the track record and confidence to know they can beat anyone in the country.

Clemson doesn't have a roster and depth levels that's equivalent to a Boise, who is capable of getting up for one game a year with the big boys. Being in a superior conference probably keeps them better focused and motivated because they know they can't sleep walk through it. I'd expect Clemson to have similar results as LSU and UGA have had the last decade, if they were in the SEC. 10-11 win seasons and competing for ATL and In the playoff talk at some point in the season.

I wouldn't expect them to be undefeated in the league cause that's been done so rarely here. AU in 2010 was the last to go undefeated, UF has never done it, Saban has done it once. So Clemson not going undefeated in the SEC isn't really indicative of them not being able to compete for conference titles and the playoffs year in and year out.
 
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Tennessee gets to play Kentucky, Vandy and at this point South Carolina every year. Yeah, it's so much tougher to be Tennessee.
 
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Schools like Clemson, FSU, Ohio State etc are so lucky because their conference has a lack of depth of quality teams. When you only have 1 or 2 tough games a year it's easier to win 10 games. Clemson does have some big wins on their resume and Dabo is doing a great job but I'm sorry the ACC is not the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. It showed this bowl season with 10-11 win teams like UNC, FSU, Michigan State, Northwestern all getting run off the field (yes MSU lost to Bama) but imagine these schools playing in the SEC West or having Tennessee's schedule. They wouldn't make the playoff and a school like Northwestern would have won like 7-8 games

True. But look at OSU last year and Clemson this year. OSU beat Alabama and then took Oregon to the woodshed. Had Clemson had its top CB, top WR and not gotten screwed in the first half by terrible clock management, they would have had a very good chance at beating Alabama. The point is, Bama didnt destroy OSU or Clemson. Which means those teams, despite playing in a weaker conference, proved they deserved to be in the playoffs.
 
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Tennessee gets to play Kentucky, Vandy and at this point South Carolina every year. Yeah, it's so much tougher to be Tennessee.

Tennessee also plays Bama Georgia and Florida every year plus a team from the best division in the country. Throw in trips to Oklahoma, Oregon and UCLA yea I'd say it's a little tougher than what Clemson has
 
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True. But look at OSU last year and Clemson this year. OSU beat Alabama and then took Oregon to the woodshed. Had Clemson had its top CB, top WR and not gotten screwed in the first half by terrible clock management, they would have had a very good chance at beating Alabama. The point is, Bama didnt destroy OSU or Clemson. Which means those teams, despite playing in a weaker conference, proved they deserved to be in the playoffs.

They had great years but how much better is it to go into a playoff fresh cause you've had the opportunity to rest starters all year in the 4th quarter because you play scrubs??? Legs only have so many miles on them
 

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