David Cutcliff Comments on Arian Foster

[byobbio]

He tells it like it is. I think there is a lot of people who jump to the conclusion that there is a ton of money out there and the Arian Fosters of the world should be paid. I agree with all he's said and I think it goes in line with what I've thought all along. Those kids are taken care of. They are not rock stars in the sense that people can just give them what they want. But, they are amateurs. And they are college students. I think paying them would break the bank on college athletics. That's why this will never come to fruition.

Duke Now - Duke coach David Cutcliffe on the Arian Foster interview and full cost of attendance | newsobserver.com blogs

 

[TennesseeFan07]

I see both sides. I'm not really sure how to police paying athletes, but I aboslutely can't stand to see colleges benefit from student athletes, especially in this day and age. When schools can make Stoked shirts, Teddy "Bridgewater" Bears and the NCAA can basically show jerseys of current players on its website, it ticks me off to see the actual players not get a cut of that. Other than that, I think players are compensated well for being an athlete.

 

[jjay2518]

I see both sides. I'm not really sure how to police paying athletes, but I aboslutely can't stand to see colleges benefit from student athletes, especially in this day and age. When schools can make Stoked shirts, Teddy "Bridgewater" Bears and the NCAA can basically show jerseys of current players on its website, it ticks me off to see the actual players not get a cut of that. Other than that, I think players are compensated well for being an athlete.

Agreed. There's something inherently wrong about the NCAA being able to sell Johnny Football jerseys on their website but keeping the family from marketing their own Johnny Football merchandise.

 

[jjay2518]

He tells it like it is. I think there is a lot of people who jump to the conclusion that there is a ton of money out there and the Arian Fosters of the world should be paid. I agree with all he's said and I think it goes in line with what I've thought all along. Those kids are taken care of. They are not rock stars in the sense that people can just give them what they want. But, they are amateurs. And they are college students. I think paying them would break the bank on college athletics. That's why this will never come to fruition.

Duke Now - Duke coach David Cutcliffe on the Arian Foster interview and full cost of attendance | newsobserver.com blogs

Love that Cutcliffe used tacos as his point of reference for what you could buy with your post-game money. Apparently our team REALLY likes Taco Bell.

 

[omghulkhands]

I see both sides. I'm not really sure how to police paying athletes, but I aboslutely can't stand to see colleges benefit from student athletes, especially in this day and age. When schools can make Stoked shirts, Teddy "Bridgewater" Bears and the NCAA can basically show jerseys of current players on its website, it ticks me off to see the actual players not get a cut of that. Other than that, I think players are compensated well for being an athlete.

Exactly, just let them make money from their own names and problem solved IMO. Capitalism will take it from there. The better player you are then then more money you stand to make off your name, it even breeds more competition.

 

[Volfan76]

He tells it like it is. I think there is a lot of people who jump to the conclusion that there is a ton of money out there and the Arian Fosters of the world should be paid. I agree with all he's said and I think it goes in line with what I've thought all along. Those kids are taken care of. They are not rock stars in the sense that people can just give them what they want. But, they are amateurs. And they are college students. I think paying them would break the bank on college athletics. That's why this will never come to fruition.

Duke Now - Duke coach David Cutcliffe on the Arian Foster interview and full cost of attendance | newsobserver.com blogs

David gets it...couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[TrueOrange]

I'm slightly surprised this wasn't at some point in the TN football forum, or was it initially?

 

[CountVolcula]

Agreed. There's something inherently wrong about the NCAA being able to sell Johnny Football jerseys on their website but keeping the family from marketing their own Johnny Football merchandise.

Its because they own the rights to that jersey. Its licensed official apparel of the school

What are you going to do when every player thinks they have a right to a number on a jersey?

A ton of players at UT have wore the #1. Who are they going to give the money to?

 

[jjay2518]

Its because they own the rights to that jersey. Its licensed official apparel of the school

What are you going to do when every player thinks they have a right to a number on a jersey?

A ton of players at UT have wore the #1. Who are they going to give the money to?

If they sold them with just the number then yes, but selling them with "Football" listed as the last name across the top and being able to search by a player's name on the NCAA website to find their jersey is taking it too far. They're using these kids' names to make money off them, but the families aren't allowed.

 

[TrueOrange]

Love that Cutcliffe used tacos as his point of reference for what you could buy with your post-game money. Apparently our team REALLY likes Taco Bell.

Didn't Arian mention tacos specifically in the interview? Or am I just making that up from something else?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Glad I caught this, I was heading to the Arian thread in the Football Forum. AF can kiss my big orange ass. He needs to stfu and go make his millions. Choose between rent and food? WTF!! LIVE ON CAMPUS INSTEAD OF IN AN APARTMENT! This guy is an ass.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I see both sides. I'm not really sure how to police paying athletes, but I aboslutely can't stand to see colleges benefit from student athletes, especially in this day and age. When schools can make Stoked shirts, Teddy "Bridgewater" Bears and the NCAA can basically show jerseys of current players on its website, it ticks me off to see the actual players not get a cut of that. Other than that, I think players are compensated well for being an athlete.

Why, why does it bother you? Other than the liberal union attitude, why does it bother you? They make between 60k and 80k a year to play football. That puts them pretty high up on the wage scale for the NATION! Catch a clue.

 

[Daloth]

Why, why does it bother you? Other than the liberal union attitude, why does it bother you? They make between 60k and 80k a year to play football. That puts them pretty high up on the wage scale for the NATION! Catch a clue.

60 to 80k? What the hell are you smoking? A state school like UT should be maybe 12-15k a semester. Most private schools these days run only 40k or so a year. Even if it was 60-80k, a "job" where you make a million dollars for a company and make money that you don't ever actually spend on yourself (but give back to the corporation effectively) isn't a job. That's basically indentured servitude.

 

[smyborovol]

How about the option of paying for their education and all the cost associated with the money made from their name or a free education.

 

[jjay2518]

Didn't Arian mention tacos specifically in the interview? Or am I just making that up from something else?

Oh he did.

 

[TrueOrange]

Oh he did.

Thanks for the clarification there.

 

[TennesseeFan07]

Why, why does it bother you? Other than the liberal union attitude, why does it bother you? They make between 60k and 80k a year to play football. That puts them pretty high up on the wage scale for the NATION! Catch a clue.

Texas A&M made 35-45 million dollars from Johnny Manziel's name during a single year. It doesn't bother you that Manziel will never see a dime of that money? Go ahead, make the autograph jokes, too.

 

[KoachKletus]

Texas A&M made 35-45 million dollars from Johnny Manziel's name during a single year. It doesn't bother you that Manziel will never see a dime of that money? Go ahead, make the autograph jokes, too.

Pfizer has made billions off a drug that one of their employees developed. Pfizer offered the employee (athlete) a job (football) and paid the employee a wage (scholarship). Pfizer also offered state of the art facilities (UT training facilities) so that the employee had the very best of equipment to do his job. Now, when it all shells out, the employee does not get the royalties to the product Pfizer allowed him/her to develop. The employee get's paid (scholarship) for service rendered.
Now with that being said - A&M gave Manziel a scholarship to play football. That's his pay. He happened to win a Heisman (develop a billion dollar drug). Should Manziel get the royalties or the school that took a chance on him? If he had went to a different school it's highly unlikely that he would have won the Heisman.

I for one am dead set against paying college players. I think too much money is already involved and adding more will dilute the sport. The NFL has lost it's luster with the $$$ and free agency. Do you really want to see that in college sports? Div.1 football is rapidly turning into pro farm leagues and will soon creep into high school ball. If it hasn't already.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Texas A&M made 35-45 million dollars from Johnny Manziel's name during a single year. It doesn't bother you that Manziel will never see a dime of that money? Go ahead, make the autograph jokes, too.

Manziel is getting an education, room, board, etc... as well as free football training that will give him a shot at the NFL. The 35-45 million dollar argument is a red herring to the conversation, since there are lots of jobs out there that aren't figured at a % of the parent company's net/gross income. In other words, lots of companies are making lots of $ off of lots of people all the time. It's a lame argument.

 

[jjay2518]

Pfizer has made billions off a drug that one of their employees developed. Pfizer offered the employee (athlete) a job (football) and paid the employee a wage (scholarship). Pfizer also offered state of the art facilities (UT training facilities) so that the employee had the very best of equipment to do his job. Now, when it all shells out, the employee does not get the royalties to the product Pfizer allowed him/her to develop. The employee get's paid (scholarship) for service rendered.
Now with that being said - A&M gave Manziel a scholarship to play football. That's his pay. He happened to win a Heisman (develop a billion dollar drug). Should Manziel get the royalties or the school that took a chance on him? If he had went to a different school it's highly unlikely that he would have won the Heisman.

I for one am dead set against paying college players. I think too much money is already involved and adding more will dilute the sport. The NFL has lost it's luster with the $$$ and free agency. Do you really want to see that in college sports? Div.1 football is rapidly turning into pro farm leagues and will soon creep into high school ball. If it hasn't already.

Pfizer also doesn't pay every single employee from the janitor up to the CEO the exact same salary. In your scenario I'm sure the employee would get a nice bonus or a raise.

 

[AmoebaVol]

Let's just be done with the NCAA and college football as it now exists.

How about a semi-pro/developmental league sponsored by universities? The players (who will be paid a standard negotiated wage) have 4-year eligibility (like today) and the option to attend their sponsoring university for free. Players have the opportunity to profit individually, but must pay the university a cut for using school logos or names when doing so. Recruiting would work much like before, since pay is standardized and rules would be in place for policing extra benefits paid by the university or boosters outright. Players would sign agreements annually, and would even have the right to switch teams without penalty on an annual basis.

Thoughts?

You would likely see smaller schools drop their programs, but I think that's coming at some point anyhow. We're probably headed for a non-NCAA Superconference before too long.