Davis, Jones, Teague make it official...

[bleedingTNorange]

MKG expected to also be announcing soon.

Lamb appears to be the only one considering a return.

“@AdamZagoria: Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones & Marquis Teague all coming out, source confirms to @SNYtv. Would expect MKG & Lamb, too.”


“@AdamZagoria: Doron Lamb's father tells @SNYtv he "doesn't know" if Doron will come out or not”

 

[sittinginclass]

Would hate to see Lamb miss out on a lot of money if he gets seriously injured. He should go, just to be safe

 

[n_huffhines]

Teague is probably not worthy of a draft pick, but some dumb team will take him.

"Yes I'd like to waste my first round pick, I'll take a PG who struggled scoring the ball, and couldn't even deliver 5 apg with an all-star cast around him."

 

[LittleCat]

As expected.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Teague is probably not worthy of a draft pick, but some dumb team will take him.

"Yes I'd like to waste my first round pick, I'll take a PG who struggled scoring the ball, and couldn't even deliver 5 apg with an all-star cast around him."

Draft express has him at 18, he really played himself up the board the last month of the season.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

UK has released a statement for a presser tomorrow at 2 in which they are expecting all 5 underclassmen to declare.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

I'm guessing Lamb will leave. I think he would have announced by now, plus he can leave on a high note with the NC. I've really grown to hate Lamb because he's so good, but I respect the hell out of him. Seems like an excellent player.

 

[Roustabout]

And guess who will still be favored to win the conference?

You got it. UK. I don't think people really understand how good Cal really is. The guy should get coach of the decade just for being able to manage that nut job Cousins for a year.

 

[GatorsGators]

And guess who will still be favored to win the conference?

You got it. UK. I don't think people really understand how good Cal really is. The guy should get coach of the decade just for being able to manage that nut job Cousins for a year.

If Florida lands Anthony Bennett, then UK probably wouldn't be favored to win the conference.

 

[n_huffhines]

And guess who will still be favored to win the conference?

You got it. UK. I don't think people really understand how good Cal really is. The guy should get coach of the decade just for being able to manage that nut job Cousins for a year.

If he had managed Cousins to a title, I'd agree with you. That team was too good, not to win it all.

College hoops is 95% recruiting. Doesn't matter who the coach is: K, Self, Williams, Cal, Calhoun, Boeheim, etc.

They all win a lot because they have superior talent.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

And guess who will still be favored to win the conference?

You got it. UK. I don't think people really understand how good Cal really is. The guy should get coach of the decade just for being able to manage that nut job Cousins for a year.

And yet he can't even win COY...hahaha. Funny stuff.

I will say, if he reaches major success with this years team(as is) ill be a little more impressed.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

If he had managed Cousins to a title, I'd agree with you. That team was too good, not to win it all.

College hoops is 95% recruiting. Doesn't matter who the coach is: K, Self, Williams, Cal, Calhoun, Boeheim, etc.

They all win a lot because they have superior talent.

Izzo lands some big guys, but he has a nice blend. This years team had some 3* and 2* in the rotation along with the 4 and 5's. Not something you'll see very often from those other guys.

 

[LittleCat]

And yet he can't even win COY...hahaha. Funny stuff.

I will say, if he reaches major success with this years team(as is) ill be a little more impressed.

People said the same thing last year. How much does if have to do to get people impressed. Elite 8, Final 4, NC. Pretty damn impressive for his first 3 years.

In the last 3 years, Cal has been the best coach in the nation. Hands down.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

People said the same thing last year. How much does if have to do to get people impressed. Elite 8, Final 4, NC. Pretty damn impressive for his first 3 years.

In the last 3 years, Cal has been the best coach in the nation. Hands down.

I'd disagree with that, but you're entitled to your opinion.

I admit he impressed me this year, BUT you ask what does he have to do? For me, and I think many people, win big with a team that isn't a NBA team, literally.

 

[LittleCat]

You play with the cards you're dealt. He recruited the best players in the nation, and he won with them. Imo, that's about as good as a season will ever get.

Who has done better in the last three years overall?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

You play with the cards you're dealt. He recruited the best players in the nation, and he won with them. Imo, that's about as good as a season will ever get.

Who has done better in the last three years overall?

As far as strictly coaching? Brad Stevens did probably equally as much, I get this year was bad, with FAR LESS than calipari.

2 NCAA title games back to back is impressive, but as I said this year was bad.

I also still believe Izzo is one of the best coaches in the game and has done an incredible job again their.

Also, even though he didn't reach the same level of success, what Tom crean has accomplished at Indiana is nothing short of impressive either.

By saying 3 years thats a very specific window, because coaches like Williams self and K have had 1 slip up. If you went to 5 years or to 2 years there are a handful of more impressive coaching jobs done.

But as far as strictly only the last 3 years, I think Stevens, Izzo, and crean have done great coaching jobs considering what they had.

 

[LittleCat]

Butler was a once in a lifetime occurrence. I'd be willing to bet a team seeded like that 2 years in a row will never be able to do what Stevens did. It was rare to see and great Cinderella story.

Izzo has always been good. No arguing with that. That being said, Mich St underachieved badly in the tourney. True, Louisville was a dangerous team, but Mich St should have won anyway.

Crean has done the best re-building i've seen in college basketball in a long time. It's nice to finally see Indiana back to it's old self. He's brought in some great classes and should be ranked preseason number one.

But on a success rate in the last 3 years, Cal has been the best. Not saying it will continue though. Next year will be interesting.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

That's not fair to say Izzo underachieved because his team lost to Louisville this year in the tourney.

His team wasn't even predicted to be top 25, and instead he coaches them to win te big10 and go on to get a number 1 seed. It's not fair to say well you did this good regular season and exceeded expectations, so now I'm raising my expectations for the tourney for you as well, I've never been a fan of that.

As I said 3 years is a specific window, but I you're limiting it to that I see the calipari argument. Of course by saying the last 3 year you're picking his best 3 years an some of the worst 1 year stints for k, Williams and self in there. As I said, you go 2 years or up to 5 years and you'll have a different person besides calipari, but in these last 3 I see your argument. The only people I see would be Stevens, doesn't matter if t was fluke or not, I was a hell of a coaching job 2 years in a row. And then crean and Izzo, their coaching jobs speak for themselves.

 

[ukvols]

Teague is probably not worthy of a draft pick, but some dumb team will take him.

"Yes I'd like to waste my first round pick, I'll take a PG who struggled scoring the ball, and couldn't even deliver 5 apg with an all-star cast around him."

Just like Daniel Orton and Eric Bledsoe before him, he will be drafted much higher than he otherwise would, because of the team he plays on. Some team will look at the college jersey and all of the wins and team hype, and draft him.

On a side note, Bledsoe's Wikipedia page (I briefly forgot his name) reminded me of the grade scandal. I'm not trying to send blame to the college. I'm just saying it's rare that all of the evidence is laid on the table, and then the decision-makers rule one way while saying that the evidence points the other way.

 

[dukes_of_maggard]

I'm just saying it's rare that all of the evidence is laid on the table, and then the decision-makers rule one way while saying that the evidence points the other way.

You're right...man the NCAA always giving Cal breaks...smh

 

[ukvols]

You're right...man the NCAA always giving Cal breaks...smh

Only it was the local school board and not the NCAA. I didn't imply anything about Calipari. Just stating the facts. I don't see the room for anyone to argue that Bledsoe's high school grades were based on merit. If anything, it would have been quite the unlucky break to have a season washed away, because they unknowingly took a guy whose grades had been doctored.

 

[dukes_of_maggard]

Only it was the local school board and not the NCAA. I didn't imply anything about Calipari. Just stating the facts. I don't see the room for anyone to argue that Bledsoe's high school grades were based on merit. If anything, it would have been quite the unlucky break to have a season washed away, because they unknowingly took a guy whose grades had been doctored.

haha sorry - a little defensive my bad

 

[ukvols]

haha sorry - a little defensive my bad

No worries.

If I were on your side, I'd point at the young man's apparent success in the collegiate classroom and, with that in mind, conclude that his potential would have been wasted had he been denied the opportunity. I know nothing of his high school or home life and will imply nothing further about how his low grades came to be.

On this side, well, something always seems to stink over there.

 

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Only it was the local school board and not the NCAA. I didn't imply anything about Calipari. Just stating the facts. I don't see the room for anyone to argue that Bledsoe's high school grades were based on merit. If anything, it would have been quite the unlucky break to have a season washed away, because they unknowingly took a guy whose grades had been doctored.

Bledsoe couldn't spell merit in high school. Of course something was going on. The only issue I have in all of the "UK and Call are dirty" arguments is that people either forget or stubbornly omit the fact that other elite schools were trying to snag him too. it's not like his top 5 backed out and UK was the only school left for him to sign. I think the same decision would have been made for him to play at any of the schools in the final four this season.

 

[ukvols]

Bledsoe couldn't spell merit in high school. Of course something was going on. The only issue I have in all of the "UK and Call are dirty" arguments is that people either forget or stubbornly omit the fact that other elite schools were trying to snag him too. it's not like his top 5 backed out and UK was the only school left for him to sign. I think the same decision would have been made for him to play at any of the schools in the final four this season.

That reminds me of the grief I took from Gator fans the day Nukeese and company were arrested for the Pilot gas station incident. As if Florida didn't want him, and he would've avoided trouble had he matriculated to Gainesville.

And, a better joke would be to say that Bledsoe couldn't spell "GPA." :thumbsup: