Defensive Improvement, and Proof

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Improvement. It is what we all want to see.

I stayed up very late last night mulling over ways to compare Team 118's defense against that of last year's version.

After much thought, I created the following graphic as a way to compare apples to apples, or as the case may be, "blow-outs" to "blow-outs." Is there really improvement?

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The short answer I believe is yes, and significantly so.

The data set is interesting. First, three of the four blow out 2013 losses were away games. Venue is an important part of the equation, as winning away is more difficult than winning at home and having data in that hostile environment is crucial. Second, the four "blow-outs" were all against opponents ranked in the top ten at the time the game was played. Interestingly the average ranking of our 2013 blow-out loss was against an opponent ranked #5. In essence, these losses came against a team ranked about fifth and played on the road. Or, our average 2013 blow-out loss loss came against a team that is perceived as being what Oklahoma was last night. If that comparison is true, the relationship between the 2013 and 2014 performance could be telling.

In Tennessee's four worst losses in 2013, the opponent won by an average of 35 points and did so by scoring, on average, 47.5 points a game against Tennessee's much maligned 2013 defense.

Last night, Oklahoma won by 24 points. That means that Tennessee's combined defense and offensive production, against a top 5 team, increased by 31.4% against the average. Compared both individually and against the average, Tennessee held Oklahoma to the lowest point difference of the data set. That is significant improvement, but also requires a look at offensive ability so it isn't solely indicative of defensive improvement.

Oklahoma scored a total of 34 points, including a defensive touchdown. Even with the pick 6 included, Tennessee decreased the points allowed against the average by 28.4%, and that was the second lowest total points allowed in the data set. If you remove the pick 6 and PAT from the calculation, UT's defense cut the points allowed by 43% against the average.

Total yards allowed is also an improvement. Oklahoma gained 454 yards, the lowest of the data set, and a 15.4% improvement from the average.

I also wanted to see, as a measure of efficiency, how many yards the defense allowed for each point the opponent scored. It took Oklahoma moving the ball 13.4 yards to score 1 point. Or, to score the equivalent of a touchdown (even including the pick 6), the Sooners had to move the ball 80 yards. Compare that to Oregon that only had to go 70, Bama that had to go 64, or Auburn that had to go 52. In other words, Tennessee made the vaunted Oklahoma offense go the equivalent of about 13 more yards per touchdown against the average, and farther per touchdown than all but one other game in the data set.

Bottom line, as a total metric against an average top 5 team that would have been a blow out loss last year, Tennessee improved by 31.4%, defensively Tennessee improved by 28.4% against the averages when looking at total points scored (6 of which came against the offense), and Tennessee's defense held the Sooner's to the fewest yards allowed against the data set, while cutting 15.4% of all yards allowed against the average.

There is another, less tangible, difference as well. The Oklahoma game was contested much farther than the 2013 blow outs. Whether you believe that Oklahoma didn't give up until the final whistle, or not, they kept their starters in far longer than Auburn, Bama, Oregon or even Mizzou did in 2013. That means that 2013 wasn't as bad as it could have been making the comparison to the improvement against Oklahoma look even less impressive than it really is.


*It should also be noted that last year's substantially similar Oklahoma team put up 45 points on Bama. Also, Oklahoma converted about 50% of 3rd downs against Bama and only 25% against UT. THIRD DOWN FOR WHAT!!!
 
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Here's more proof. OU hung 45 on the vaunted Tide D in last years Sugar bowl. Once the Vols got the alignment issues fixed they pretty much shut OU down.
 
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Appreciate the statistics, this is good stuff.....thank you.

I enjoyed the game and saw improvement, #1 It appeared to me that this team did not give up.....ok, things did not go UT's way, but I see a team that will be better as the year progresses.
 
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Appreciate the statistics, this is good stuff.....thank you.

I enjoyed the game and saw improvement, #1 It appeared to me that this team did not give up.....ok, things did not go UT's way, but I see a team that will be better as the year progresses.

Two weeks to prepare for the Dawgs. I'm pretty sure they will give Dawg QB some problems. Just hope our WR corp gets healthy. I it should be a very competitive Game.
 
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Thanks for this, it's refreshing from everything else on here right now.
I know you can't put a number on this, but never during the game last night did we contentiously get gashed like we did in a few games last year.

We had a few blown coverages in the first half resulting in big gains, but I loved that they couldn't get 8,9,10 yards seemingly every time they touched it.
 
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Improvement. It is what we all want to see.

I stayed up very late last night mulling over ways to compare Team 118's defense against that of last year's version.

After much thought, I created the following graphic as a way to compare apples to apples, or as the case may be, "blow-outs" to "blow-outs." Is there really improvement?

View attachment 82873

The short answer I believe is yes, and significantly so.

The data set is interesting. First, three of the four blow out 2013 losses were away games. Venue is an important part of the equation, as winning away is more difficult than winning at home and having data in that hostile environment is crucial. Second, the four "blow-outs" were all against opponents ranked in the top ten at the time the game was played. Interestingly the average ranking of our 2013 blow-out loss was against an opponent ranked #5. In essence, these losses came against a team ranked about fifth and played on the road. Or, our average 2013 blow-out loss loss came against a team that is perceived as being what Oklahoma was last night. If that comparison is true, the relationship between the 2013 and 2014 performance could be telling.

In Tennessee's four worst losses in 2013, the opponent won by an average of 35 points and did so by scoring, on average, 47.5 points a game against Tennessee's much maligned 2013 defense.

Last night, Oklahoma won by 24 points. That means that Tennessee's combined defense and offensive production, against a top 5 team, increased by 31.4% against the average. Compared both individually and against the average, Tennessee held Oklahoma to the lowest point difference of the data set. That is significant improvement, but also requires a look at offensive ability so it isn't solely indicative of defensive improvement.

Oklahoma scored a total of 34 points, including a defensive touchdown. Even with the pick 6 included, Tennessee decreased the points allowed against the average by 28.4%, and that was the second lowest total points allowed in the data set. If you remove the pick 6 and PAT from the calculation, UT's defense cut the points allowed by 43% against the average.

Total yards allowed is also an improvement. Oklahoma gained 454 yards, the lowest of the data set, and a 15.4% improvement from the average.

I also wanted to see, as a measure of efficiency, how many yards the defense allowed for each point the opponent scored. It took Oklahoma moving the ball 13.4 yards to score 1 point. Or, to score the equivalent of a touchdown (even including the pick 6), the Sooners had to move the ball 80 yards. Compare that to Oregon that only had to go 70, Bama that had to go 64, or Auburn that had to go 52. In other words, Tennessee made the vaunted Oklahoma offense go the equivalent of about 13 more yards per touchdown against the average, and farther per touchdown than all but one other game in the data set.

Bottom line, as a total metric against an average top 5 team that would have been a blow out loss last year, Tennessee improved by 31.4%, defensively Tennessee improved by 28.4% against the averages when looking at total points scored (6 of which came against the offense), and Tennessee's defense held the Sooner's to the fewest yards allowed against the data set, while cutting 15.4% of all yards allowed against the average.

There is another, less tangible, difference as well. The Oklahoma game was contested much farther than the 2013 blow outs. Whether you believe that Oklahoma didn't give up until the final whistle, or not, they kept their starters in far longer than Auburn, Bama, Oregon or even Mizzou did in 2013. That means that 2013 wasn't as bad as it could have been making the comparison to the improvement against Oklahoma look even less impressive than it really is.


*It should also be noted that last year's substantially similar Oklahoma team put up 45 points on Bama.

I had my coordinators confused. Jancek is actually starting to impress me. I was there and other than a couple freshman mistakes and playing a too CFB offense I was very proud of the defense.
 
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Tenn needs Saulsberry and Sawyers really bad to step up............as O'Brien & the Williams brothers are really playing good in the middle but that can't hold up over a full season, we need at least 2 or 3 more to step and the D will be really good. Also, I would like to see Bynum and Latroy Lewis get more spot snaps..........
 
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We also held them to 146 rushing yards, which is down from an average of 300.75 yards per game in those four games last year. That's 4.29 yards per carry, which is down from the average of 6.5 yards per carry.

Yards per pass is down from 9.94 to 9.33 yards per atttempt. Any improvement here is impressive given the drastic improvement in run defense.

Oklahoma only converted 25% of their 3rd downs, which is down from 52.94% in the four games from last year.

Barring injuries, I think we have ourselves a defense this season.
 
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We also held them to 146 rushing yards, which is down from an average of 300.75 yards per game in those four games last year. That's 4.29 yards per carry, which is down from the average of 6.5 yards per carry.

Yards per pass is down from 9.94 to 9.33 yards per atttempt. Any improvement here is impressive given the drastic improvement in run defense.

Oklahoma only converted 25% of their 3rd downs, which is down from 52.94% in the four games from last year.

Barring injuries, I think we have ourselves a defense this season.

Perfect points! I was going to look into that but ran out of steam.
 
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As a "math guy" myself, I like your analysis! Numbers don't lie.
Maybe not, but he makes the huge assumption that last night's Oklahoma offense is equal to the other teams. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I hope that he is correct, and we do look faster getting to the ball than last year.
 
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I agree. They look much better. But...

I also wanted to see, as a measure of efficiency, how many yards the defense allowed for each point the opponent scored. It took Oklahoma moving the ball 13.4 yards to score 1 point. Or, to score the equivalent of a touchdown (even including the pick 6), the Sooners had to move the ball 80 yards. Compare that to Oregon that only had to go 70, Bama that had to go 64, or Auburn that had to go 52. In other words, Tennessee made the vaunted Oklahoma offense go the equivalent of about 13 more yards per touchdown against the average, and farther per touchdown than all but one other game in the data set.

what does starting field position have to do with how good a defense is? More than not, starting field position is an indication of special teams and the offense winning the field position battle.
 
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Maybe not, but he makes the huge assumption that last night's Oklahoma offense is equal to the other teams. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I hope that he is correct, and we do look faster getting to the ball than last year.

Its absolutely an assumption, one that I addressed with the word "if."

"If that comparison is true, the relationship between the 2013 and 2014 performance could be telling."

What data to you have to indicate that at this point the comparison is not true?
 
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Its absolutely an assumption, one that I addressed with the word "if."

"If that comparison is true, the relationship between the 2013 and 2014 performance could be telling."

What data to you have to indicate that at this point the comparison is not true?
You are making the assumption that I think that the comparison isn't true. Did I say that it wasn't? Note my use of the word "maybe."
 
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I agree. They look much better. But...



what does starting field position have to do with how good a defense is? More than not, starting field position is an indication of special teams and the offense winning the field position battle.

That is an interesting point. My initial reaction is that while I did not specifically include any starting field position adjustments, this number includes the impact of those things.

What I am trying to point out is that starting field position is irrelevant if a team can move the ball and not maximize that movement with a touchdown. Teams can put a ton of yards in the stat box and not score, and others can score frequently with much fewer yards. The more you force your opponent to take up more yards per point, the more you are slowing him down and denying him points. Therefore, it is far better to have the combination of field position and the ability to end a drive with a lower or null payout.

If you noticed though, Oklahoma always had pretty good field position due to mediocre kicking or good returns. The fact that they can put up 454 yards and only score 34 points is a testimony to the defense. If you look at other teams we faced, which was the point of that chart, the payout was much higher for our opponent meaning they weren't stopped or denied points as frequently.
 

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