Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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NashVol11 said:
That site shows canceled contracts, not one claim of fraud and they don't even try to claim "trillions" of anything. "Uncovering trillions in fraud" is something @Sgt_Nick_Fury read on Twitter and believed without question because his "skepticism" only applies selectively
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As Usual. Wrong.

Here's How Much DOGE Has Saved Us So Far, Plus Big Scandal They Uncovered With $4.7 Trillion in Payments​

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Here's How Much DOGE Has Saved Us So Far, Plus Big Scandal They Uncovered With $4.7 Trillion in Payments

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Looks like DOGE has save around 150 billion so far, But we're still very early, and there are trillions in payments we're still trying to make sense of, this is all before they even start to release info on DOD audit. I have zero doubt it will be well over a trillion before they are done.
 
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NashVol11 said:
That site shows canceled contracts, not one claim of fraud and they don't even try to claim "trillions" of anything. "Uncovering trillions in fraud" is something @Sgt_Nick_Fury read on Twitter and believed without question because his "skepticism" only applies selectively
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I doubt they have "saved" trillions... .will the eventually find "trillions" in unjust or illegal payment possibly, this is just a quick rundown to see what they can find for immediate investigation and stoppage.

I really have no idea what your problem is, its a process. They other solution is they don't post anything to the public and you find out at the end but you wouldn't like that either. You are asking for immediate "transparency" which is what they are giving you more or less... the government never really does that... not really.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Wait THIS is what you read as "uncovering trillions in fraud"? An optional field code? Hahahahaha. Explain why that's "fraud," quickly
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It's unknown what it was for, because of the lack of coding, some may be fraud some may not be, it has the potential to be so.....in any case it's pretty amazing that any organization can have 4.7 trillion unexplained payments. But by all mean regurgitate "optional field code" as if that in anyway changes the story and strut around like you have made a point.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
It's unknown what it was for, because of the lack of coding, some may be fraud some may not be, it has the potential to be so.....in any case it's pretty amazing that any organization can have 4.7 trillion unexplained payments. But by all mean regurgitate "optional field code" as if that in anyway changes the story and strut around like you have made a point.
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So no evidence of fraud. Just "some may be" based on pure (and extremely flimsy) speculation. But you believed it and repeated it, despite seeing, again, no evidence. Like I said, I miss when the "skeptics" were actually skeptical
 
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NashVol11 said:
So no evidence of fraud. Just "some may be" based on pure speculation. But you believed it and repeated it, despite seeing, again, no evidence. Like I said, the "skepticism" is awfully selective
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He said, "some may be fraud some may not be". They are accusing some of this as fraudulent, waste, abuse and probably criminal. You are early in the process, not sure what the problem is.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
He said, "some may be fraud some may not be". They are accusing some of this as fraudulent, waste, abuse and probably criminal. You are early in the process, not sure what the problem is.
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No, they're not. They haven't said any of it is fraud. They said an optional field code was missing, and implied that that means we may not know where $4.7 trillion went (which is completely false, but is intended to fool people like Nick Fury who will believe anything they say)
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, they're not. They haven't said any of it is fraud. They said an optional field code was missing, and implied that that means we may not know where $4.7 trillion went (which is completely false, but is intended to fool people like Nick Fury who will believe anything they say)
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I'm talking about what they are doing in general.

implied that that means we may not know where $4.7 trillion went
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Where did it go?
 
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NashVol11 said:
It's fine, just have RedState.com post that the national debt "may be" zero and the self-proclaimed skeptics will apparently just take their word for it
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Debt to the Penny | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

Generally that is how life works, we take people's word for it, even the government. If you have an issue with it, you can always say you disagree. And in the U.S. you generally have tools to use to help discover problems.

How do you put your pants on? Serious question, life really isn't this difficult for an average human being.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Im struggling to reconcile "trillions of savings" and introducing Reconciliation bills that are calling for increasing Biden's bloated/wasteful spending by hundreds of billions annually....
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"trillions" over years yes, "trillions" in a single year very unlikely.

The U.S. government will have to spend considerable amount of money in the future as the equation requires it, the private sector is not able to take all this on in new fresh credit.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I think this has been the concern literally all of us have had. So what if we cut something wasteful like USAID if we replace it with double the cost for something just as idiotic?
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Its about efficiency and productive use of the resources, the U.S. government will have to continue to increase spending if they expect all you guys to continue to live. Its about what the "money" is used on, but the U.S. will have to continue to float bonds.

Total market credit/debt must continue to go up exponentially whether its private or public creation.

All Sectors; Debt Securities and Loans; Liability, Level

This number must continue to go up or boom, no more ATM.

Basically they will have to redirect spending to some place else, imo, or they have to find a lot of private parties to take on massive amounts of new debt. The private sector really as a whole never recovered from 2008-2010 even with all the fed stuff.
 
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Something else to think about.

The budget assumes GDP growth year over year. It's how they try to take some of the sting out of the deficit.

The US Government is the largest job creator in the country. If they slash spending - and they should - they should also account for the impact that will have to the economy.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I just want Musk to tweet out that they've found $1 quadrillion in fraud so we can watch the left explode.
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Huff: Where is the government's definition of "yuge" exactly, any evidence of "yuge".
 
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