DHS Whistleblower - San Bernardino

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theFallGuy

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Grand Vol said:
After everything that's happened in the past seven years, you still think this kind of thing is far fetched?
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I think its far fetched that this guy's investigation could have prevented the incident. The linkages he relies on between what he was looking at and the terror suspects just seem awfully general and vague.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think its far fetched that this guy's investigation could have prevented the incident. The linkages he relies on between what he was looking at and the terror suspects just seem awfully general and vague.
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be that as it may, it doesn't seem unlikely to me that this administration would put pressure on investigations in order to push the narrative.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think its far fetched that this guy's investigation could have prevented the incident. The linkages he relies on between what he was looking at and the terror suspects just seem awfully general and vague.
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I believe the articles said "may have" prevented the attacks.

It's no different than you liberals screaming about the 9/11 intelligence that was disregarded. Now you can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think its far fetched that this guy's investigation could have prevented the incident. The linkages he relies on between what he was looking at and the terror suspects just seem awfully general and vague.
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Maybe, and hindsight is 20/20, but the idea that we're going to have to scale back our investigations of possible threats due to fear of looking insensitive has to go. This wasn't described as just keeping tabs on Muslims...there was specific intel that raised raised flags that was (at least supposedly) quashed.

If there's genuine, vetted reason to believe investigation into someone is justified then things like their religion (whatever that may be) should not give us even a moment's pause.
 
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theFallGuy said:
be that as it may, it doesn't seem unlikely to me that this administration would put pressure on investigations in order to push the narrative.
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That was the point of the story. The speculation he could have actually stopped it is very weak, and thin. But the claim that he was not allowed to pursue his project because the administration is weak on Muslim terror -- that's the spin, that's the lead, that's what Fox and the others are going to highlight because its been their narrative for 7 years.

Grand Vol said:
I believe the articles said "may have" prevented the attacks.
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Read the OP.





Look, we all get it. The story is not about this guy or his project. Its more of the same attack about Obama being weak on Muslim terrorists. Some Fox viewers think he's just too politically correct and that makes him weak. Some think he secretly sympathizes with them and wants to help them.

You know who you are.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That was the point of the story. The speculation he could have actually stopped it is very weak, and thin. But the claim that he was not allowed to pursue his project because the administration is weak on Muslim terror -- that's the spin, that's the lead, that's what Fox and the others are going to highlight because its been their narrative for 7 years.

Read the OP.

Look, we all get it. The story is not about this guy or his project. Its more of the same attack about Obama being weak on Muslim terrorists. Some Fox viewers think he's just too politically correct and that makes him weak. Some think he secretly sympathizes with them and wants to help them.

You know who you are.
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So you're issue is how the Daily Mail misconstrued what he said? Really? Did you watch the interview? Because at no point does he say "I would have stopped the attack."

Perhaps you should watch the interview prior to engaging your fingers to type silly things. Besides the obvious eye candy Megyn Kelly provides, you would find the analyst carefully worded his replies to include "may have" and "possibly." He was not speaking in absolutes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That was the point of the story. The speculation he could have actually stopped it is very weak, and thin. But the claim that he was not allowed to pursue his project because the administration is weak on Muslim terror -- that's the spin, that's the lead, that's what Fox and the others are going to highlight because its been their narrative for 7 years.




Read the OP.





Look, we all get it. The story is not about this guy or his project. Its more of the same attack about Obama being weak on Muslim terrorists. Some Fox viewers think he's just too politically correct and that makes him weak. Some think he secretly sympathizes with them and wants to help them.

You know who you are.
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Both
 
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I am starting to think barry misspoke, when he said ISIS is the JV team, I think he meant to say him and his regime are the JV team.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That was the point of the story. The speculation he could have actually stopped it is very weak, and thin. But the claim that he was not allowed to pursue his project because the administration is weak on Muslim terror -- that's the spin, that's the lead, that's what Fox and the others are going to highlight because its been their narrative for 7 years.




Read the OP.





Look, we all get it. The story is not about this guy or his project. Its more of the same attack about Obama being weak on Muslim terrorists. Some Fox viewers think he's just too politically correct and that makes him weak. Some think he secretly sympathizes with them and wants to help them.

You know who you are.
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Let me give you an absolute: if a worthy surveillance* was quashed due to those being watched just happened to be of a certain faith then there's a problem.

*I'm not making that judgement. From what you can glean did the red flags justify being noticed?
 
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Maybe in fairness, for every Muslim we investigate, we need to investigate a Buddhist, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, an atheist, a Wiccan, and a Pastafarian. Did I leave anyone out, because I want to be fair and all inclusive.
 
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Godfatha said:
Maybe in fairness, for every Muslim we investigate, we need to investigate a Buddhist, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, an atheist, a Wiccan, and a Pastafarian. Did I leave anyone out, because I want to be fair and all inclusive.
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Bhai....Moonies?
 
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lawgator1 said:
That was the point of the story. The speculation he could have actually stopped it is very weak, and thin. But the claim that he was not allowed to pursue his project because the administration is weak on Muslim terror -- that's the spin, that's the lead, that's what Fox and the others are going to highlight because its been their narrative for 7 years.




Read the OP.





Look, we all get it. The story is not about this guy or his project. Its more of the same attack about Obama being weak on Muslim terrorists. Some Fox viewers think he's just too politically correct and that makes him weak. Some think he secretly sympathizes with them and wants to help them.

You know who you are.
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No. Its more about gun screeching when you have a paper trail.

You know who you including everyone else.
 
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hndog609 said:
Maybe, and hindsight is 20/20, but the idea that we're going to have to scale back our investigations of possible threats due to fear of looking insensitive has to go. This wasn't described as just keeping tabs on Muslims...there was specific intel that raised raised flags that was (at least supposedly) quashed.

If there's genuine, vetted reason to believe investigation into someone is justified then things like their religion (whatever that may be) should not give us even a moment's pause.
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I agree
 
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