Did Wilcox leaving hurt UT more than Kiffin leaving?

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orangelo said:
Just wondering what people thought?
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No.

Kiffin burned down the program like he was Sherman on the march and we've suffered through three years of misery (I thought 2009 was awful, although everything is relative now)

Wilcox leaving has now prevented a 10-win or more season and has prepared the ground for the arrival of ->

GRUDEN!
 
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I dont understand why Wilcox would rather coach at Washington than here, anyone have any idea what made him make the jump?
 
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No. He might have been a key component to moving forward but he didn't burn anything down on his way like Kiffin did.
 
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If Wilcox had stayed we would be much better off. We would have won the close ones we lost or at least 2 or 3 of them. Make no mistake about it, Wilcox leaving hurt far worse then people realize.
 
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In the end, Wilcox could have potentially saved Dooley's job, which over the long-haul would be a disaster. If anything, we should give him a hug.
 
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Sirmon and Wilcox went to be closer to home before people showed up with torches and pitchforks

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Looks like they just got out just in time.
 
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Comparing last year's defense to this year's is apples and oranges.

Last year, with Bray out, Vols' offense was pathetic, really pathetic. Get a couple of scores up on them and the game was over. Like Fulmer did so many times against inferior SEC teams, folks like LSU and Alabama got ahead, sat on the ball and basically ran the clock out so as not to embarrass further the opposition. Concurrently, with UT's offense so anemic, it didn't matter that the defense played "bend but don't break" and stayed on the field forever giving up drive after drive with no chance of a turnover or big play on defense.

That's why Dooley really didn't care that Wilcox left. Dooley wanted a big play defense so that his big play offense would get plenty of opportunites. Get some 3 and outs on defense, force a turnover at the expense of giving up more big plays. But get UT's offense on the field. Obviously getting one big play for every 10 you give up ain't gonna work, but that was the idea.

Wilcox's defensive philosohy doesn't fit with a high powered, up tempo offense.
 
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bam15 said:
In the end, Wilcox could have potentially saved Dooley's job, which over the long-haul would be a disaster. If anything, we should give him a hug.
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Or it could have been a winning combination, DD on offense and wilcox on defense. May have given us an East title by next year. "The world will never know":no:
Would liked to have seen it.
 
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Wilcox leaving is the best thing that has happened to UT in quite a while.

If Wilcox doesn't leave then our defense would be much better, we probably have 2 more wins this season and Dooley isn't on the hot seat.

We don't end up with an opporunity to hire a big time coach like a Jon Gruden if Wilcox doesn't leave.

Blessing in disguise IMO
 
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Closer to home i think was part of the reason but away from Dooley might have been the main reason. Sal may have coached DB's really well or we just suck on defense but something sure went wrong
 
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omghulkhands said:
Wilcox leaving is the best thing that has happened to UT in quite a while.

If Wilcox doesn't leave then our defense would be much better, we probably have 2 more wins this season and Dooley isn't on the hot seat.

We don't end up with an opporunity to hire a big time coach like a Jon Gruden if Wilcox doesn't leave.

Blessing in disguise IMO
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A much better Defense? A highpower offense that puts up 30 to 40 a game?? SEC East title maybe in DD's 3rd year??? How is that bad? I know he's leaving but do you want him gone or do you just hate him? He's not scum like kiffin is. You should want UT to win no matter who the coach is.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Wilcox leaving is the best thing that has happened to UT in quite a while.

If Wilcox doesn't leave then our defense would be much better, we probably have 2 more wins this season and Dooley isn't on the hot seat.

We don't end up with an opporunity to hire a big time coach like a Jon Gruden if Wilcox doesn't leave.

Blessing in disguise IMO
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When we hire someone you've never heard of again, you're going to be sad.
 
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In retrospect , We should have just promoted lance Thompson. Wilcox taking peter sirmon with him hurt the most. Yes, the defense would be better under Wilcox. I guess we would have "tried to cause more turnovers" with either he or Steele
 
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It's funny that most people said Wilcox was not a good coach when he was here. Now he is missed. Man i hope we win soon
 
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Wilcox and crew left because they heard Dools wanted out after the KY game and saw the writing on the wall. everyone knows Dooley is egotistical and hard to work with. That probably in itself was enough for them to hit the road. I agree the best thing for us was that he left, because we would have a better D and we would ultimately have Dooley at the end of this season.
 
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jack_2222 said:
Comparing last year's defense to this year's is apples and oranges.

Last year, with Bray out, Vols' offense was pathetic, really pathetic. Get a couple of scores up on them and the game was over. Like Fulmer did so many times against inferior SEC teams, folks like LSU and Alabama got ahead, sat on the ball and basically ran the clock out so as not to embarrass further the opposition. Concurrently, with UT's offense so anemic, it didn't matter that the defense played "bend but don't break" and stayed on the field forever giving up drive after drive with no chance of a turnover or big play on defense.

That's why Dooley really didn't care that Wilcox left. Dooley wanted a big play defense so that his big play offense would get plenty of opportunites. Get some 3 and outs on defense, force a turnover at the expense of giving up more big plays. But get UT's offense on the field. Obviously getting one big play for every 10 you give up ain't gonna work, but that was the idea.

Wilcox's defensive philosohy doesn't fit with a high powered, up tempo offense.
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Good thing Boise State never had one of those high powered up tempo offenses.
 
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