Distinguish between liberals and conservatives, Clarification for the curious...

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Something to offend everybody...

Liberal: Wants religion in the closet and sexuality in public and in the schools ... just as long as it isn't normal heterosexuality, which is oppressive to women and gays.
Conservative: Wants sexuality in the closet and religion in public and in the schools ... just as long as said religion is fire and brimstone Christianity. Anything else is un-American.

Liberal: Supports the ACLU, which upholds the constitution, but opposes the NRA, which also upholds the constitution.
Conservative: Supports the NRA, which upholds the constitution, but opposes the ACLU which also upholds the constitution.

Liberal: Religious conservatives who divorce, read porn or cheat on their spouses (despite building careers railing against all three) are hypocrits while feminists who marry, read porn or have children (despite building careers railing against all three) are not.
Conservative: Welfare recipients, public sector unionists and funding for the arts are bilking the public purse while pork barrel defence contractors, corporate welfare and faith based welfare initiatives do not.

Liberal: Believe that any business that actually makes money either isn't paying high enough taxes or isn't paying high enough wages and benefits.
Conservative: Believe that union labor makes too much money but corporate CEOs do not.

Liberal: Considers stanardized testing and profiling to be racist, but hiring and admissions quotas are not.
Conservative: Considers affirmative action "reverse" discrimination despite the fact that high paying and high profile jobs are still dominated by white men.

Liberal: In the interests of educational diversity, liberal education will no longer consist merely of the works of "dead white European males" but instead will focus on women, minorities and third world scholars who espouse Marxist and post modern philosophies ... philosophies contrived by dead white European males!
Conservative: A broad, diverse and comprehensive liberal education should not study the thought of other cultures or nations.

Liberal: America is the sole source of racism, colonialism, imperialism, exploitation and injustice in the modern world. None of the above existed before European expansionism.
Conservative: Any criticism of past or present American foreign or economic policy is treason.

Liberal: Rails against the interests of "big business" despite the fact that said business creates jobs and makes its money by providing goods and services that people are actually willing to spend their own money on.
Conservative: Dismiss or ignore the possibility that business might pollute the environment, rip off consumers and slash wages, jobs and benefits despite the positive impact all of the above often have on "the bottom line."

Liberal: Attributes the failure of socialsim to either the wrong people running it or not properly implementing it.
Conservative: Attributes the failure of laissez faire to either the wrong people running it or not properly implementing it.

Liberal: Pro choice and pro feminist ... but condemn traditional gender roles even if freely chosen.
Conservative: Conservative women's groups and leaders are somehow exempt from the otherwise firmly held belief that women are better off at home raising children.

How to be a good Democrat/Republican

Feel free to add your own.......

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Liberal: Loves the troops, hates the mission, apologizes for and sympathizes with the enemy.

Conservative: Loves the troops and understands their purpose as an instrument of policy, recognizes the enemy not as misunderstood but as inhuman and worthy of defeat.
 
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Liberal: Loves the troops, hates the mission, apologizes for and sympathizes with the enemy.

Conservative: Loves the troops and understands their purpose as an instrument of policy, recognizes the enemy not as misunderstood but as inhuman and worthy of defeat.

Disagree. I'm a long time Republican (which is certainly different than what we have today...dixiecrats and neocons). A republican would wage war in defense of this country or an ally. A republican is not militaristic.

I love the troops, pray for them every day. I also hate the mission, it was based on fraud and deceit. We have become the attacker rather than the defender. With that said, I have no apologies to the enemy, I have no sympathy for the enemy (I do have sympathy for all those innocents that have been killed, caught in the crossfire).

Your average Iraqi is NOT inhuman and they are not worthy of being killed by coincidence of the place they were born. If you believe in Christ, if you believe in God, then you know that all men were made in the image of God. This includes the Iraqis, whether they be Sunni, Shia' or Christian. Who gave us the right to make their lives more miserable than Saddam Huessein made them? To believe that you are better than any other human being by virtue of your nationality is extremely misguided if you are a Christian. To believe this gives you an open account to kill them is against what Christ has taught us.
 
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guess you sort of missed the spirit of the thread, and if I want to be preached to, I'll go to church. Nothing in my post indicated that I thought "average" Iraqis are inhuman, nor that they are even the enemy. Our enemies in this fight are islamic fascists, whom I consider inhuman, subhuman even.
 
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LIBERAL: Completely attributes the fall of laissez-faire to socialist, government reforms and FDR.

CONSERVATIVE: Completely attributes the fall of Socialism to American, military might and Ronald Reagan.



LIBERAL: Believes that the reason there is so much teenage pregnancy is because schools don't expose children to the deepest sexual secrets of the Kama Sutra the moment they can read and write and that the best way to prevent teenage pregnancy is to pass out condoms and birth-control pills in high schools... encouraging teens to have lots of careless, permiscuous sex.

CONSERVATIVE: Believes that the reason there is so much teenage pregnancy is because the girls were Godless sluts who are being punished by God and all the saints, because they wouldn't keep their legs closed until marriage, and that the best way to prevent teenage pregnancy is to teach people from Kindergarten through college that if they have sex, at all, before marriage they will get Hepatitis, Chlamydia, and HIV... and die.



LIBERAL: Believes Jimmy Carter is the greatest diplomat who ever lived.

CONSERVATIVE Believes Richard Nixon is the greatest diplomat who ever lived.



LIBERAL: Believes that everyone should be afraid of guns, because guns have this unexplained ability to unexpectantly pop up and randomly massacre a small country.

CONSERVATIVE: Believes that everyone should have automatic weapons to defend him or herself, just in case the liberals are right.



LIBERAL: Believes that presidents should be elected by lobbyists and special interests groups.

CONSERVATIVE Believes that presidents should be elected by God.



LIBERAL: Believes that the great, great, great, great, great grandchildren of former slaves should be paid reparations for emotional damages but that still surviving Japanese-Americans who were interned during WWII should not even be mentioned in the history books.

CONSERVATIVE: Reparations?



LIBERAL: Believes that 9/11, AIDS, and the moon landing were all government conspiracies.

CONSERVATIVE: Believes that Watergate, The Iran-Contra Affair, and the 2000 election circus were all media conspiracies.



LIBERAL: Believes that the United Nations is a strong, honest, hard-working, and fair body of diplomats that is completely free of corruption, whose authority is respected, and who has the unquestionable, competent ability to solve all the world's problems in a peaceful and joyous environment and that when a more "direct" approach to peacekeeping is necessary, the U.N., better than anyone alse, can formulate a flawless strategy and a desirable multinational force to ensure that all citizens of this happy world can enjoy a safe, secure, and peaceful life.

CONSERVATIVE: The United States is the United Nations.



LIBERAL: Believes that Franklin D. Roosevelt is the greatest president who ever lived.

CONSERVATIVE: Believes that Ronald Reagan is the greatest president who ever lived.
 
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LIBERAL: Policy should be based on science and reason
CONSERVATIVE: Policy should be based on the Bible and the 10 Commandments. The reason is cuz God said so.

LIBERAL: Support amenesty for illegal immigrants because it would be racist to do otherwise. Oh and Hispanics are a huge new voting block they don't want to piss off!
CONSERVATIVE: Support amenesty for illegal immigrants because corporations want a good supply of cheap labor. Oh and Hispanics are a huge new voting block they don't want to piss off!

LIBERAL: All Wars are bad
CONSERVATIVE: All Wars are bad except the ones Americans start

LIBERAL: Radical Christian Fundamentalism is dangerous to our country
CONSERVATIVE: Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is dangerous to our country

LIBERAL: When it comes to abortion do not forget the rights of the mother!
CONSERVATIVE: When it comes to abortion do not forget the life of the fetus! But you can forget the mother and the baby after it is born.

LIBERAL: The media is controlled by the corporate masters of the the right wing!
CONSERVATIVE: The media is controlled by the vast left wing elite!


LIBERAL: American foreign policy in the Middle East is driven by the goal to control access to oil
CONSERVATIVE: American foreign policy in the Middle East is driven by the goal to protect our way of life. Which is tied to cheap gas.
 
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Liberal: Anti abortionists are nothing but woman haters. And that includes women who oppose abortion.
Conservative: Pro choicers are doing nothing but sanctioning murder! And that includes the ones who oppose capital punishment and war.

Liberal: Free speech for all ... except racists, sexists and homophobes.
Conservative: Free speech for all ... except communists, pornographers and critics of America.

Liberal: Consider Christian fundamentalists who want to censor erotic art censorious prudes.
Conservative: Consider radical feminists who want to censor erotic art censorious prudes.

Liberal: Endlessly condemn America and Israel for human rights abuses, despite the fact that the Islamic and communist worlds are far worse.
Conservative: Judge a nation's human rights record on whether or not it attracts investment. For example, Cuba and North Korea are horrible while Pinochet's Chile and the Shah of Iran were okay.

Liberal: Domestic repression of the Communist party, COINTELPRO and McCarthyism were terrible abuses of civil liberties, but domestic repression of the Ku Klux Klan, Waco and Ruby Ridge were justified.
Conservative: Communists were such a threat to our freedom that they needed to be purged from our government and civil society and put on "show trials" back in the days when Stalin was doing all the same things!
 
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Liberal: Must think that men hate women because men like looking at attractive women, while ignoring, rationalizing or denying male bashing. Likewise ignore, rationalize or deny male demands for equal access to their children and fair child support payment levels.
Conservative: Must think that women hate men because women object to being judged on the basis of their sex rather than their ability, while ignoring, rationalizing or denying mysogeny and chauvenism. Likewise ignore, rationalize or deny female demands to equal access to satisfying work and fair wage levels.

Liberal: He's a sexist who objectifies and degrades women, she's displaying healthy normal sexuality. He's afraid of commitment, she's liberated.
Conservative: He's a stud, she's a whore. He doesn't want to get 'tied down', she hates men.

Liberal: No discussion of the role played by black ghetto values and norms in the lagging status of blacks is tolerated.
Conservative: No discussion of the role played by white suburban values and norms in the lagging status of blacks is tolerated.
 
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LIBERAL: Schools should not teach religion and encourage tolerance of all religions. BUT DO NOT PRAY TO JESUS BEFORE THE FOOTBALL GAME!
CONSERVATIVE: Schools should teach religion and encourage tolerance of all religions. BUT DO NOT PRAY TO ANYBODY BUT JESUS BEFORE THE FOOTBALL GAME!

LIBERAL: HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
CONSERVATIVE: MERRY CHRISTMAS!

LIBERAL: According to the majority of scientists global warming is a serious threat to our planet.
CONSERVATIVE: According to the majority of scientists we evolved from apes so who are you going to believe?

LIBERAL: Only evolution should be taught in classrooms because it is based on scientific findings.
CONSERVATIVE: Creationsim should be taught in classrooms because the scientist thinks he evolved from a monkey.

LIBERAL: We support gay marriage but it's okay if nobody else wants to get married before having children.
CONSERVATIVE: We oppose gay marriage but it's okay because we want to tell everybody else what to do before, during, and after they are married too.
 
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Liberal: Once upon a time, Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters really were principled and law abiding.
Conservative: Once upon a time, Kenneth Lay and Enron really were principled and law abiding.

Liberal: Picket line violence wouldn't have to occur if the company would just accept our contract offer.
Conservative: We wouldn't have to fire all these striking workers if they would just accept our contract offer.

Liberal: Laws banning the hiring of replacement workers are fair and balanced while laws outlawing closed and union shops are designed to stack the deck in favor of anti union employers.
Conservative: Laws banning the hiring of replacement workers are unjustified government intervention into the collective bargaining process while laws outlawing the closed and union shops are perfectly justified government intervention ... all in the name of "freedom" of course.

Liberal: Marriage is an archaic and oppressive institution for the oppression of women and children from which gays have been unfairly excluded and discriminated against.
Conservative: The small handful of gays who do want to marry are a greater threat to marriage and family values than spousal/child abuse, falling incomes and poverty are.

Liberal: Cares more about the rights of criminals than they do about the rights of victims of crime.
Conservative: Seems to think that placing all of the financial resources of the state at the disposal of the prosecution while leaving the defence to pay for its own legal council actually constitutes a just justice system.

Liberal: Continues to insist on rehabilitating criminals long after its been proven not to work.
Conservative: Continues to insist on incarcerating criminals long after its been proven not to work.

Liberal: Morally stringent, intolerant religious fundamentalists should be kept out of office.
Conservative: Morally relativist, licentious Godless atheists should be kept out of office.

Liberal: The Judeo-Christian tradition is bad because a male God-head and male clergy discriminate against women. "Neo-pagan" Goddess worship is seen as a balanced alternative.
Conservative: The oppression of women is one of Islam's worst characteristics. That's one of the reasons why we have to fight them. Nothing like it exists in Christianity.

Liberal: Rails against the "eroticization of male dominance and female submission" in hard core pornography as being representative of heterosexuality, but ignores comparable "femdom" sexuality as actually being more prevalent or similar patterns in the gay and lesbian community. The Surrendered Wife is sexist and oppressive, Around her Finger is not.
Conservative: What's all this rubbish about male dominance? We've always been equal.

Liberal: If abortions are outlawed, women will have to get outlawed "back alley" abortions. Would prefer not to apply this line of thinking to gun ownership.
Conservative: If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Would prefer not to apply this line of thinking to abortion.

Liberal: People will make sensible sexual decisions if they are taught comprehensive sex ed and given free condoms in school. Would prefer not to apply this line of reasoning to religion.
Conservative: Pray and read the bible enough in school, and pre-marital sex, unwanted pregnancies and STDs will just disappear.

Liberal: The military industrial complex, the CIA and tough "law and order" criminal justice represent overbearing government.
Conservative: The welfare state, the IRS and social service agencies represent overbearing government.

Liberal: AIDS is a government conspiracy to kill homosexuals.
Conservative: AIDS is God killing homosexuals.

Liberal: High taxes
Conservative: Low wages
 
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Liberal: Has an innate distrust of success and prosperity. Individuals and organizations that have a track record of strength and success, such as free markets, Christianity and white males must be oppressive and discriminatory. While true to a point, sometimes even the worst of us might also work harder or smarter than others.
Conservative: Has an innate distrust of happiness and pleasure. Activities that have a track record of producing happiness and joy, such as leisure, sex and art are engaged in by people who are immoral or lack self discipline. While true past a point, sometimes even the best of us might want to feel good once and a while.

Liberal: Government is like Santa Clause. The 25th of December would ideally be the day to celebrate the winter solstice and tax freedom day.
Conservative: Government is like Ebenezer Scrooge. The 25th of December would ideally be the day to celbrate Christ's birthday and the one day of the year it's okay not to work.

Liberal: Racial segregation in Johannesburg or Birmingham was terrible. Veiling and keeping women away from men in Afghanistan and Iran was horrible. But dormitories, clubs, courses and rooms for women or minorities only on campus is great!
Conservative: You actually believed "seperate but equal."

Liberal: Don't laugh. It wasn't long ago that you supported "scientific socialism", that society would naturally evolve towards rule by the working class, and you actually believed that government planners could manage the economy and society. Stalin's attempt to implement it resulted in a bloodbath.
Conservative: Don't laugh. It wasn't long ago that you supported "scientific racism", that the world would naturally evolve towards rule by the white race, and you actually believed that a jewish conspiracy could manage the economy and society. Hitler's attempt to implement it resulted in a bloodbath.

Liberal: U.N good. WTO bad. World Health Organization good. World Bank bad.
Conservative: WTO good. U.N bad. World Bank good. World Health Organization bad.

Liberal: Christian missionairies that imposed western beliefs on many third world cultures were "cultural imperialists". Marxist intellectuals that imposed western beliefs on many third world cultures were "national liberationists."
Conservative: When the Soviets intervened militarily to prop up their system of government in foreign lands, they were an "evil empire." When the Americans did the same, they were "exporting democracy."

Liberal: Western multinational corporations in foreign lands threatens their culture. NGOs advancing western ideals like feminism, secularism and gay rights in foreign nations do not.
Conservative: The best way to promote democracy and freedom abroad is with a Bradley Tank.

Liberal: "Profit" is a dirty word. Advocates union wages and job security, a four day thirty hour work week, full benefits, free universal health care and day care, cradle to grave welfare, "zero unemployment" low interest rate policies and stringent regulation and taxation of businesses. Would still blame the resulting economic failure on "corporations not paying their fair share!"
Conservative: "Exploitation" is a dirty word. Advocates long hours at low wages, all health care and child care paid for out of pocket, no protection against or compensation for termination of employment, no social safety net once said employment is terminated, "zero inflation" tight money policies and little if any regulation or taxation of business. Would still blame the resulting poverty and misery on "government intervention in the free market."

Liberal: America can do no right.
Conservative: America can do no wrong.

Liberal: Draconian civil law, lax criminal law. Fewer cops, more lawyers. Police should stand trial for pulling their guns or physically handling a suspect. Especially if said suspect was black.
Conservative: Draconian criminal law, lax civil law. More cops, fewer lawyers. Police should use their guns and physical force with complete impunity. Especially if said suspect was black.

Liberal: You oppose tort reform despite the fact that huge damage settlements primarily benefit rich white male lawyers, corporations are still not really held accountable because they're insured while the cost of liability insurance is passed on to poor consumers and workers.
Conservative: You oppose tighter regulation of investment and financial markets, despite the fact that accounting and investment scandals benefit criminals and hamper the economy by weakening investor confidence at the expense of investors and entrepreneurs.

Liberal: You no longer believe in the nationalization of industry. There may yet be some hope...
Conservative: You no longer believe in racial segregation. There may yet be some hope...
 
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Liberal: You are proud to consider yourself sexually liberated, and regard repressiveness and hypocrisy on the issue to be absurd. You find it incredulous that over protective fathers give their sons free reign while their daughters are restricted in order to 'protect' them from the young men other fathers give free reign to. Women should be as free to enjoy sex as men are. And you wouldn't hesitate to slap a sexual harassment lawsuit the size of the national debt on any male co-worker that so much as compliments you in the morning.

Conservative: You are proud to consider yourself pro family, and regard rising divorce rates and declining marriage and birth rates to be absurd. As old fashioned as it might seem, you still regard marriage and children to be the basis of any kind of sexual relationship. You look forward to the day you march your daughter down the isle. And you wouldn't hesitate to empty both barrels of a shotgun into any young punk who so much as looks at your daughter with 'you know what' on his mind.

Liberal: You believe women to be every bit as strong as men, maybe even stronger, but need extensive legal protection against unwanted compliments and dinner invitations.

Conservative: You believe that 'the lady is always right' and that women are morally superior to men. You just don't think it should be illegal to pay them less money to do the same work.

Liberal: Christian conquest in the middle east, such as the crusades and colonialism were bad. What ever happened to Byzantium anyway?

Conservative: Muslims hate the west for their freedoms. The west has never, ever mistreated Muslims or meddled in their affairs in any way.

Liberal: If there's one thing you despise, it's racist fundamentalists who espouse anti semetic hatred. Yet you're more critical of Israel than you are of Hamas and Hezbollah.

Conservative: If there's one thing you despise, it's godless communism suppressing religious freedom. Yet you still condone trade with China, despite their treatment of Tibetan Buddhists.
 
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from what I've always heard, it's really pretty simple; liberals are good, and conservatives are bad. Isn't that about right? :)
 
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Only if you are currently receiving an entitlement.

It used to be that the Republican Party was active in slowing down if not getting rid of entitlements. What happened? This Medicade prescription program is so top heavy in funding, our taxes are certain to be increased and it won't be long. When this happens, will the neocons blame the Dems (this was a neocon bill signed by Bush).
 
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The brouhaha over the "fairness doctrine" so far, is a case study in the differences between conservative, centrist, and liberal.

Conservatives distrust the mass newsmedia and point out, sometimes quite bluntly, where they think the media is wrong. AT NO TIME HAVE THEY EVER SUGGESTED THE MEDIA DID NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER IT WANTED. They may vehemently disagree with what the mass media says but the idea of using government to silence it is anathema.

The left, on the other hand, is salivating over the opportunity to use governmental fiat to silence a group of highly successful broadcasters SOLELY based on the fact that they disagree with the OPINIONS being transmitted. The use of legislation to expand government and its power is the left's default position.

The centrists/moderates seem to think that - for whatever reason - since conservative talk radio is successful and liberal talk radio is not, that somehow the system is skewed and maybe there is a need to governmental interference - or maybe not - they don't really know. These people REALLY like scholarship limits and eat yogurt at their kids soccer games - you know, the ones where nobody keeps score.

I used to buy the liberal claptrap. Then I found that the deeper you got into their core philosphies the more you found them trying desperately to put a Smiley Face on the Lubyanka.*

I am an American. I believe in the Constitution of the United States. I believe it should not be "interpreted" by unelected judges or by Congresscritters of any stripe. It means what it says. That's it, that's all. If you don't like what the Constitution says, there are ways provided in it to alter it, provided you can convince 2/3 of the state legislatures to go along with you. I also believe, along with Thomas Jefferson, that government that governs best governs least. Liberty trumps "fairness" and freedom trumps all.

If I wanted to live in country where individual Freedom and Liberty are defined by the government, I would move to Venezuela or somewhere in the EU.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
I believe Jefferson meant that, too.

I realize that, due to the successful efforts by government schools, that I am in a minority in this country.

God help us all.

conservative:

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liberal:

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centrist/moderate:

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*For those of you from Bucksnort, the "Lubyanka" was the notorious headquarters of the Soviet KGB. It was also a prison and torture chamber for certain people deemed "dangerous" to the survival of the Soviet Union. Stalin's henchman Lavrentiya Beriya headed the KGB during Stalin's dictatorship. Beriya is said to have installed a listening tube from the dungeons to his private office just so he could enjoy the screams.

If any individual truly illustrates the "banality (ordinary nature) of evil" it is Beriya:

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Title this one "Uncle Joe and Uncle Lev." that's Stalin's daughter on Beriya's lap.

Brrrr....
 
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I used to buy the liberal claptrap. Then I found that the deeper you got into their core philosphies the more you found them trying desperately to put a Smiley Face on the Lubyanka.*

OMG, it is always good to see you. You are not around often enough.

The left trusts a humanism that I just cannot buy into (give people what they want, and their inherent "good nature will reign supreme"). I tend to believe that complete freedom for all will eventually allow natural law to take its course and over time correct most social injustice. Socialism on the other hand.....
 
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Is Bush a liberal or a conservative?

I know his stated position is conservative, but on most positions he is a liberal; i.e. immigration, fiscal policy, etc.
 

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