Ditch The Zone Read Running Game

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Butch Jones ran his zone read offense at his fist two stops and then at Tennessee. The offense worked great against lesser competition. Against SEC and other national powers, the offense has failed to generate any kind of serious running game.

Jones has adjusted his short route passing route tree and we are seeing more vertical routes being run and thrown, with some success. In fact, Justin Worley has turned into one of college football's best passers. It does not hurt that he has one of the more talented group of WRs in the nation.

WRs are the most explosive playmakers on the field and a smart coach is going to do what he can do to get the ball into their hands as often as possible. Thus, you need a good passing QB. That is the biggest prerequisite of QBs to play in this offense on this team.

All teams need to be able to run the football. It is an integral part of the game. In Butch's old version of his offensive scheme, his QB was as important in creating a ground game, as the RB. However, he did not have WRs half as talented as the group he has at Tennessee. He also did not face defenses with athletes as big and as fast as he has been facing in the SEC.

The Vols offensive line was much maligned a year ago, but the NFL vindicated them in the 2014 NFL Draft. The problems with the Vols run game lie more in the scheme itself, than in the the guys who played on the OL last season. This season the issues lie with the scheme and the talent on the OL.

This years OL is young, not huge, not particularly strong, and is without any true offensive tackles in the line up. Butch is playing two offensive guards at offensive tackle. Butch is partially culpable for the failure to recruit quality offensive tackles in his two recruiting classes. Derek Dooley is equally at fault for the failure to recruit OTs too. Butch came here believing that he could recruit tall, thinner, and mobile offensive linemen and play them at tackle in the SEC. He has learned that he has to change his faulty recruiting paradigm in order to put together a good OL in this league. He is no longer in the MAC or the Big East.

Butch is also seeing that he is having to change his run blocking in order to open holes for his RBs. We saw him use some lead blockers to open up holes against Oklahoma and it worked well. Using lead blockers, as he did is not truly part of his zone read scheme. However, it worked.

Shortsighted fans want to blame Worley for the run game woes for not keeping the ball and forcing the defensive ends from crashing. There is a reason why he dies not keep the ball. The coaches have likely instructed him to not keep the ball. They understand his value to the team's offensive success.

The zone read May work in smaller conferences and the read option may work at Auburn where they run the ball 70% if the time and more. However Tennessee is playing in the SEC against the predominant defensive linemen in the nation. If your offense throws a lot and you have a plethora if talented WRs as UT does, you need to be able deliver the ball to them accurately, something most mobile QBs can not do on a consistent basis.

Knowing that your team does not truly have the talent to run the zine read offense, why does a coach continue to do so? They say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Maybe Butch is waking up and realizing that he can still run a spread offense with some changes to the run blocking. I sure hope he has had an epiphany. If not, we may become a better program due to the influx of talent to the program. However, how long does the continued recruiting success last without major victories and lots if them? I firmly believe that our future success depends on Butch Jones adapting his offensive scheme to his talent and to the defenses personnel of the SEC. A major part of that adapting is dumping the Zone Read run game.
 
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Butch Jones ran his zone read offense at his fist two stops and then at Tennessee. The offense worked great against lesser competition. Against SEC and other national powers, the offense has failed to generate any kind of serious running game.

I think I hear Gus Malzahn snickering.
 
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No point in running a zone read, if the only person getting the ball is the RB. That my friends is called a handoff.
 
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Solid post, good insight at what may or may not be wrong. You hit a great point (like others have alluded to), in order to run the Zone-Read effectively, we need a more mobile QB. And what we've seen, is Butch changing his gameplan to go with what we have (like the running as you mentioned). Good thread OP
 
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In fact, Justin Worley has turned into one of college football's best passers.

Thats when I stopped reading and lol'd.
 
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In fact, Justin Worley has turned into one of college football's best passers.

Thats when I stopped reading and lol'd.
We all have opinions... When Worley has time to throw, he's been one of the better passer in college football.

This post is actually worth reading.. Makes some great points. Its a discussion board for a reason.
 
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Butch Jones ran his zone read offense at his fist two stops and then at Tennessee. The offense worked great against lesser competition. Against SEC and other national powers, the offense has failed to generate any kind of serious running game.

I think I hear Gus Malzahn snickering.
Gus runs a read option and runs 70% of the time or more.
 
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Butch Jones ran his zone read offense at his fist two stops and then at Tennessee. The offense worked great against lesser competition. Against SEC and other national powers, the offense has failed to generate any kind of serious running game.

Jones has adjusted his short route passing route tree and we are seeing more vertical routes being run and thrown, with some success. In fact, Justin Worley has turned into one of college football's best passers. It does not hurt that he has one of the more talented group of WRs in the nation.

WRs are the most explosive playmakers on the field and a smart coach is going to do what he can do to get the ball into their hands as often as possible. Thus, you need a good passing QB. That is the biggest prerequisite of QBs to play in this offense on this team.

All teams need to be able to run the football. It is an integral part of the game. In Butch's old version of his offensive scheme, his QB was as important in creating a ground game, as the RB. However, he did not have WRs half as talented as the group he has at Tennessee. He also did not face defenses with athletes as big and as fast as he has been facing in the SEC.

The Vols offensive line was much maligned a year ago, but the NFL vindicated them in the 2014 NFL Draft. The problems with the Vols run game lie more in the scheme itself, than in the the guys who played on the OL last season. This season the issues lie with the scheme and the talent on the OL.

This years OL is young, not huge, not particularly strong, and is without any true offensive tackles in the line up. Butch is playing two offensive guards at offensive tackle. Butch is partially culpable for the failure to recruit quality offensive tackles in his two recruiting classes. Derek Dooley is equally at fault for the failure to recruit OTs too. Butch came here believing that he could recruit tall, thinner, and mobile offensive linemen and play them at tackle in the SEC. He has learned that he has to change his faulty recruiting paradigm in order to put together a good OL in this league. He is no longer in the MAC or the Big East.

Butch is also seeing that he is having to change his run blocking in order to open holes for his RBs. We saw him use some lead blockers to open up holes against Oklahoma and it worked well. Using lead blockers, as he did is not truly part of his zone read scheme. However, it worked.

Shortsighted fans want to blame Worley for the run game woes for not keeping the ball and forcing the defensive ends from crashing. There is a reason why he dies not keep the ball. The coaches have likely instructed him to not keep the ball. They understand his value to the team's offensive success.

The zone read May work in smaller conferences and the read option may work at Auburn where they run the ball 70% if the time and more. However Tennessee is playing in the SEC against the predominant defensive linemen in the nation. If your offense throws a lot and you have a plethora if talented WRs as UT does, you need to be able deliver the ball to them accurately, something most mobile QBs can not do on a consistent basis.

Knowing that your team does not truly have the talent to run the zine read offense, why does a coach continue to do so? They say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Maybe Butch is waking up and realizing that he can still run a spread offense with some changes to the run blocking. I sure hope he has had an epiphany. If not, we may become a better program due to the influx of talent to the program. However, how long does the continued recruiting success last without major victories and lots if them? I firmly believe that our future success depends on Butch Jones adapting his offensive scheme to his talent and to the defenses personnel of the SEC. A major part of that adapting is dumping the Zone Read run game.

i agree.
 
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Do we really run that many pure read option plays? I'm not seeing it in Worley's package like it was when Dobbs was in there.

So it seems the coaching staff has already adjusted in my eyes. We still are going to be spread out when we have our best talent at the WR position. Right?

Also, it seems to me people are overreacting to the one game, Oklahoma, that you should not overreact to.

Alabama Rushing in Sugar Bowl
CAR YDS AVG
D. Henry 8 100 12.5
Yeldon 17 72 4.2
McCarron 10 -43 -4.3
Team 35 129 3.7


Tennessee Rushing Saturday
CAR YDS AVG
Hurd 14 97 6.9
Lane 10 42 4.2
Pickett 1 1 1.0
Smith 1 -3 -3.0
Worley 6 -23 -3.8
Team 33 112 3.4 0 43
 
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No point in running a zone read, if the only person getting the ball is the RB. That my friends is called a handoff.

This. There's not really a point to keep doing it THIS YEAR b/c Worley does not/will not keep the ball enough to keep the DE honest
 
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I agree with a lot of this. We don't have the linemen to run this scheme right now (though I don't know that we have linemen to run any scheme) and Worley isn't really the ideal zone read quarterback. Late in the Oklahoma game we actually had some success using a lead blocker on some run plays. Specifically the counter we ran that got Hurd his long run.

I don't agree that a zone running offense can't be successful in the SEC. It can, you've just got to have the talent for it.

I wouldn't advocate scrapping it entirely, but we would be well served by going to more gap runs and mixing it up some more.
 
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Have to agree with the majority of OP's opinion. I've never been a fan of this offense and never will be unless RG3 was running it.
 
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Is it just me or did it some like if Worley would have held on to the ball a few times on the read option that he would have had a big gain? Like someone else said, its really just a hand off in TN's offense.
 
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Solid post, good insight at what may or may not be wrong. You hit a great point (like others have alluded to), in order to run the Zone-Read effectively, we need a more mobile QB. And what we've seen, is Butch changing his gameplan to go with what we have (like the running as you mentioned). Good thread OP

You can't change the game plan much. You want the young line, RBs, ect to experience the zone and become efficient with it. We are now a zone offense under butch. It will work, you need time to get the players to fit that system. We are now 90% in with those type of players.
 
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Anyone ever think that these plays "look" like there's a read for Worley. I'm thinking the majority of times the play is called as a straight handoff and run. They may occasionally call it to where it has the same exact action with Worley doing a read and keeping it accordingly.
 
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Anyone ever think that these plays "look" like there's a read for Worley. I'm thinking the majority of times the play is called as a straight handoff and run. They may occasionally call it to where it has the same exact action with Worley doing a read and keeping it accordingly.

Doubtful. Worley has previously stated that he needs to pull it more often.
 
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The zone read is being ran some in the NFL. To say that the zone read won't work against the best defensive lineman in the country is foolish, when you see it being run some in the NFL. To say it is not working tremendously for Tennessee right now, is accurate. But, when people paint with a broad brush and say it only works against lesser competition that just isn't true. The NFL teams that are using it, are using a multiple offense, but they are using it.
 
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Do we really run that many pure read option plays? I'm not seeing it in Worley's package like it was when Dobbs was in there.

So it seems the coaching staff has already adjusted in my eyes. We still are going to be spread out when we have our best talent at the WR position. Right?

Also, it seems to me people are overreacting to the one game, Oklahoma, that you should not overreact to.

Alabama Rushing in Sugar Bowl
CAR YDS AVG
D. Henry 8 100 12.5
Yeldon 17 72 4.2
McCarron 10 -43 -4.3
Team 35 129 3.7


Tennessee Rushing Saturday
CAR YDS AVG
Hurd 14 97 6.9
Lane 10 42 4.2
Pickett 1 1 1.0
Smith 1 -3 -3.0
Worley 6 -23 -3.8
Team 33 112 3.4 0 43


And we had 2 true freshmen in the offense line.
 
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The zone read is being ran some in the NFL. To say that the zone read won't work against the best defensive lineman in the country is foolish, when you see it being run some in the NFL. To say it is not working tremendously for Tennessee right now, is accurate. But, when people paint with a broad brush and say it only works against lesser competition that just isn't true. The NFL teams that are using it some are multiple but they are using it.

I saw Pittsburgh run it Thursday night.
 

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