Do we have a top tier NIL program?

[BigOrangeTrain]

Would love to see everyone’s thoughts.

 

[77' Vol]

If not, Nico wouldn't be here.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

If not, Nico wouldn't be here.

Show me the actual proof of the $8 million.

 

[77' Vol]

People with money don't feel the need to prove they have it. Be happy he's a VOL.

 

[Boston Vol]

Show me the actual proof of the $8 million.

What do you mean actual proof? It’s a private contract, neither Spyre nor Nico are going to publicly say what the deal entailed. However, reporters from The Athletic were allowed to look at the contract and do a story on it. The only thing that they weren’t allowed to include were the names of the collective and the athlete who signed the deal. However, based on the timeline of the story, and other “hints” that have been provided, it’s easy to come to the conclusion the Nico was the one who signed the deal that is potentially worth up to $8 million.

 

[firedog28]

Cannot answer the question.How can we know what kind of NIL we have,or how it stacks up beside others?

 

[Sudden Impact]

Structurally, I would say so. Built on sound business practices. Financially is a total unknown. At one time I read that the school would potentially spend about 30 Million per year in Contracts. For all sports or just football.

The NCAA I believe should have Capped NIL by Sport before it started. The limits paid to each player annually should have some reasonable Cap as well, but face it some players are going to make more than others. So fair to say this aspect would require adjustments and exceptions.

There have been some crazy numbers and Nil thrown out there for individual players or groups of players. It's a mess and needs some regulations and boundaries.

 

[ftsandersvol]

People with money don't feel the need to prove they have it. Be happy he's a VOL.

People who don’t have money never have that luxury.

 

[TAF]

i don't know where/how the Spyre Group stacks up top other schools...but I DO know...the last number i read of Volunteer Club Members was rather embarrassing...not even 10K members? Something like only ~8,200? Which I find pretty disappointing, considering an "entry level" Club Membership is ONLY $60/year. Considering 90%+ of the income is said to be going to the athletes...I'd think Tennessee could do MUCH better than <10K...

 

[Hulavol]

Spyre is beyond first rate -
I’d love to know the reasoning for the four “no” votes. No attack or anything, but rather an opportunity for some meaningful discourse.

Bottom line, a Lion doesn’t have to explain that’s it’s a Lion.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

i don't know where/how the Spyre Group stacks up top other schools...but I DO know...the last number i read of Volunteer Club Members was rather embarrassing...not even 10K members? Something like only ~8,200? Which I find pretty disappointing, considering an "entry level" Club Membership is ONLY $60/year. Considering 90%+ of the income is said to be going to the athletes...I'd think Tennessee could do MUCH better than <10K...

I agree. Thought the number would be higher

 

[TNVOLFN]

Structurally, I would say so. Built on sound business practices. Financially is a total unknown. At one time I read that the school would potentially spend about 30 Million per year in Contracts. For all sports or just football.

The NCAA I believe should have Capped NIL by Sport before it started. The limits paid to each player annually should have some reasonable Cap as well, but face it some players are going to make more than others. So fair to say this aspect would require adjustments and exceptions.

There have been some crazy numbers and Nil thrown out there for individual players or groups of players. It's a mess and needs some regulations and boundaries.

If the NCAA - hence the member organizations, the schools - were to cap NIL, then the student-athletes would certainly be considered employees and that would be an entirely different issue.

The NFL can't cap how much an athlete makes off the field via endorsements and such, though they can obviously dictate how much a team is able to spend on it's roster in salaries.

 

[vol94]

Spyre is beyond first rate -
I’d love to know the reasoning for the four “no” votes. No attack or anything, but rather an opportunity for some meaningful discourse.

Bottom line, a Lion doesn’t have to explain that’s it’s a Lion.

I assume b/c the lack of support tube receive per the post above. I personally don’t contribute any money to Spyre as I spend my money on season football tickets and certain basketball games along w travel and lodging.

 

[Hank Bukowski]

Would love to see everyone’s thoughts.

If we did, we would have a top 5 recruiting class every year, right? Isn’t that the purpose of NIL? To buy players’ potential loyalties, which are up for the best bids every year?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I'm not sure it's an opinion related matter

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

If we did, we would have a top 5 recruiting class every year, right? Isn’t that the purpose of NIL? To buy players’ potential loyalties, which are up for the best bids every year?

No. Many players are still going to sign with the school they like best

 

[turbovol]

If the NCAA - hence the member organizations, the schools - were to cap NIL, then the student-athletes would certainly be considered employees and that would be an entirely different issue.

The NFL can't cap how much an athlete makes off the field via endorsements and such, though they can obviously dictate how much a team is able to spend on it's roster in salaries.

This isn't the NFL--though, yea, it might as well be. It's supposed to be college, with, you know, STUDENT-athletes. NIL is a joke. All the activist whining about poor student-athletes being exploited by the schools = total nonsense. EVERY freakin' college student in America would be beyond thrilled to have a free four-year college education instead of having to take out personal loans to attend, which they will spend many years paying off. Funny how the free, four-year college education--plus lots of benefits on top of that--never gets mentioned.

 

[TNVOLFN]

This isn't the NFL--though, yea, it might as well be. It's supposed to be college, with, you know, STUDENT-athletes. NIL is a joke. All the activist whining about poor student-athletes being exploited by the schools = total nonsense. EVERY freakin' college student in America would be beyond thrilled to have a free four-year college education instead of having to take out personal loans to attend, which they will spend many years paying off. Funny how the free, four-year college education--plus lots of benefits on top of that--never gets mentioned.

Funny how aspirations change, every parent hopes and prays for a scholarship, but once they get that, then it’s poor “woe is me.”

In fairness to the NCAA, they didn’t want NIL, but lawmakers forced their hand. I think the best way to contain the NIL craziness is to go back to the old transfer rules. That would at least eliminate the yearly free agent market and prevent rosters from being poached.

 

[LWSVOL]

I doubt anyone knows where our NIL stands in the grand scheme of things. With less than 2800 members, can't be very robust.

 

[Voltopia]

The Spyre people seemed to be organized and ready from the get-go, so I think that has to be acknowledged. Beyond that, I have no idea. How could anyone know, without knowing how much it really influences the outcomes in recruiting and retention?

That said, without regulation, NIL is going to eventually be measured by dollars in and dollars out, and I wonder how all the conference schools will deal with places like Texas, whose donors and supporters have, practically, infinite money. I lived in central Texas for a decade. Some of y'all have no idea how proud Texas fans are of their giant piles of money -- but you will. They flaunt it, they waste it, and their money can make them soft, but nonetheless, they continue to have it. Lots of it.

I do think Tennessee's ahead of the game today, but I wonder how our programs will contend with those sorts of operations in the future.

 

[esarmstrong]

Didn't vote. How in the he!! can anyone know enough to have an opinion on the subject?

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

Spyre is beyond first rate -
I’d love to know the reasoning for the four “no” votes. No attack or anything, but rather an opportunity for some meaningful discourse.

Bottom line, a Lion doesn’t have to explain that’s it’s a Lion.

So in your scenario a lion eats whatever prey it chooses. Then we aren't top notch then bc we just got beat out by Texas for a top rb. We don't land top 5 classes. So in your scenario spyre is more like a bobcat or mountain lion. It gets some prey but not what a lion would get.

 

[TAF]

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

Marketing my man. They are well known. Show me us beating out texas for recruits. That lists is shady bc texas has no one listed. Which means either A) that list is someone who just Google searched NIL firms or B) Texas has so many NIL backers that no one entity stands above the rest.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

We sling around as much or more money than anybody but Miami is what I've heard. A&M was ahead of us but the big money guys at A&M have soured on Dumbo and slowed the spicket.