Do we still need Lamar Alexander?

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Republicans Join Democrats Supporting Colossal Tax Increase - Alexander's Essays - PatriotPost.US

"Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine (Rights of Man, 1791)

"Fairness"?

Under cover of the Republican Presidential Primary debates about how to defeat Barack Hussein Obama's socialist agenda and his plan to fund the final chapter of that agenda with enormous tax increases, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN, no relation!) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) have teamed up to promote one of the largest tax increases in U.S. history -- a heavy levy on all Internet sales.

The so-called "Marketplace Fairness Act" S. 1832 was first proposed in November 2011 by Sen. Michael Enzi (R-WY), and now awaits action in the Committee on Finance. (And you thought all that "fairness" rhetoric was limited to leftists promoting Democratic Socialism.)

Some otherwise erudite conservative senators, such as my friend Bob Corker, have joined Alexander in this errant folly. They are backing the Republican version of the legislation because it is allegedly better than the Democrat version. For the record, I do not consider that to be a legitimate selling point.

Before explaining this enormous tax increase, allow me to provide some insights demonstrating how detached Lamar is from marketplace reality and how he became so disoriented.

I once admired Lamar, an affable and intelligent fellow whose successful 1979 gubernatorial campaign trademark was his folksy grassroots plaid shirt. After a couple of terms as governor, he accepted an appointment as Secretary of Education from George H.W. Bush in 1991. In that role, he unfortunately supervised the expansion of that department rather than its contraction as proposed by Bush's former boss, Ronald Reagan.

Predictably, after Lamar's move to Washington, he progressively lost touch with his grassroots base and began a slide into the mediocrity of Republican moderation -- which often renders its adherents ideologically indistinguishable from their Democrat opponents. I diagnose this condition as Chronic Potomac Fever, which infects too many well-meaning Republicans after they take up residence inside the Washington Beltway.

Long article but well worth reading.

FWIW, I didn't vote for Alexander his last election cycle, although I didn't vote for his D opponent either.
 
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It's not a tax increase. All it does is force online retailers to collect a tax that is already owed.
 
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Republicans Join Democrats Supporting Colossal Tax Increase - Alexander's Essays - PatriotPost.US



Long article but well worth reading.

FWIW, I didn't vote for Alexander his last election cycle, although I didn't vote for his D opponent either.

I have always felt that Alexander was a piece of crap.

It's not a tax increase. All it does is force online retailers to collect a tax that is already owed.
Article I
Section 9
5: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

If I import something from another state into Tennessee then it is being exported from another state. A tax cannot be owed if it is unconstitutional. The state of Tennessee does not have the right to tax a sale that does not take place within its jurisdiction.
 
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I get that, but most online retailers, outside of amazon (but that will soon change), have a physical presence in Tennessee. Therefore, by Tennessee law, the tax is owed.
 
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A person-to-person transaction, no I don't believe the state should get anything. And as this bill is written, it would not require a tax to be collected. This bill only requires a tax be collected on online retailers; purchases made on eBay, Craigslist, etc. would not be affected by this bill.

It's also a touchy subject here in TN because of the no income tax (which is great). So when people complain about the state not having funds, look at how much $ is lost when the sales tax that is required to be collected, is not.
 
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generally speaking i like Lamar though is very opportunistic like most politicians.
 
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A person-to-person transaction, no I don't believe the state should get anything. And as this bill is written, it would not require a tax to be collected. This bill only requires a tax be collected on online retailers; purchases made on eBay, Craigslist, etc. would not be affected by this bill.

It's also a touchy subject here in TN because of the no income tax (which is great). So when people complain about the state not having funds, look at how much $ is lost when the sales tax that is required to be collected, is not.

Every transaction is a person to person transaction.

(automated orders are just proxies for people. corporations are just associations of people. etc)
 
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This is a completely different argument than what the op brought up. I was just trying to point out that this is not a tax increase.

I'd rather have a sales tax than an income tax like we do here. If rather get taxed on something I chose to buy than have it taken out of my paycheck. If I buy something here, I don't mind paying the tax to give the revenue to my state.
 
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This is a completely different argument than what the op brought up. I was just trying to point out that this is not a tax increase.

I'd rather have a sales tax than an income tax like we do here. If rather get taxed on something I chose to buy than have it taken out of my paycheck. If I buy something here, I don't mind paying the tax to give the revenue to my state.
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Lamar is another fine example of why we need term limits.

Alexander and Corker were two of six republican senators who could have killed the paedophile protection act by voting, both took the cowardly act of not voting at all.

The democrats wanted to stick an amendment into a defense department funding bill that was sure to pass that stipulated that it was a hate crime to act against a heinz 57 variety of perverts and they included muslims (the only religious group mentioned) and the noble senator Grassley proposed an amendment to the amendment that stipulated that their hate crime bill couldn't be used to stifle first amendment rights and if it had passed the the dhimmis would have withdrawn the bill entirely because that was their purpose from the beginning, to control the public debate and threaten anyone with saying anything they don't consider to be politically correct.

Some democrats in the senate obviously voted for the Grassley amendment and it needed only one more vote to pass, there were six republican senators who could have voted for it but just didn't vote, Alexander and Coker were two of those six.

They need not ask for my vote again because they will never get it.

As a matter of fact they will get an earful if they call me.

BTW, of all republican senators who have voted with Obama and the demonrats, here is how Alexander and Corker rank;

Alexander #5 @ 66%
Corker #9 @ 63%
 

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