Dobbs only 5 of 12

#76
#76
This is not personal. Glad Worley is being supported on here, but Dobbs played much better. He put the ball exactly where it was supposed to be and the offense opened up more even though he's a freshman.

Dobbs put the ball right in the gut of receivers and had at least 3 drops on crucial situations. Josh Smith dropped 2 on one of the last drives. That doesn't appear in the stats and goes unnoticed by the average fan. Dobbs will start if he continues that this week in practice. And it's not that close.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Ok I hope your sitting down.......I agree 100% with you...I know its a miracle, but Worley should start if not injured...He has been a warrior all season and has kept us pretty much turnover free....I hated Butch had to burn Dobbs red shirt, I really wanted him to be able to start for us for 4 years instead of a game or two his freshman year..Dobbs will be a great QB for us but lets give him some more time and a whole season to prove it..Some people just don't understand.
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That's twice in a row now. We're starting to become 2 people that hate each other less and I don't understand how that happened.
 
#78
#78
Not really judge Dobbs on that basis. He had a couple WR drops, and was playing against Alabama.

On the other hand, he was also playing against a D that had lost a bit of its intensity with the big lead.

All we should take away from it is cautious encouragement with his play.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I thought that Dobbs looked as good as a Freshman QB who has never taken a college level snap could have against the #1 team and #1 defense in the country in their house.

Was really impressed with his decision making and accuracy. People are right, drops killed us. But, he made some really ballsy throws and really has quite the arm.

He and North are going to have a lot of plays over the years.

But, I will admit....I was quite surprised when I heard that Dobbs was going in and not Riley. However, very impressed with Dobbs. I think that he will be okay. He'll take his lumps towards the end of the season, but I am very impressed with what he did, who he did it against, and where he did it.
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His decision making was really quick and decisive, that was the most impressive thing to me as well. Apparently he is a bright kid...it was almost like he had actually done some film study and had some idea of what the D was going to do.
 
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Lexvol said:
His decision making was really quick and decisive, that was the most impressive thing to me as well. Apparently he is a bright kid...it was almost like he had actually done some film study and had some idea of what the D was going to do.
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This and his arm allows him to make some of the throws that are required.
 
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BanditVol said:
I thought he looked much better than that???

This changes my opinion a bit....but whoever starts the next game, I trust Butch to make the right choice.
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Good stats for a true Freshman QB. Remember he was going against the #1 defense in the country.
Also he was surrounded by very few playmakers.
Dobbs has 3 rushes for 19 yds. Worley had 1 rush for 2 yds.
 
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#84
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Since we've burned the redshirt we might as well get out money's worth.

I love Worley and he's a fierce competetor, but I think we can all agree that Dobbs made throws naturally that Worley just can't. (The back shoulder throw to j. Johnson) Plus Dobbs isn't afraid to pull it on the read option, that in itself is enough for me to want to start him. The threat of the QB running opens up the middle for the running backs so much.

Dobbs just fits the offense way better than Worley and looked confident running it. Start him and never look back.
 
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Drops have been pointed out but he had some damn good throws that if they weren't properly defended would been great completions. One to Croom that was just off his fingertips because of great coverage by the CB which would've went for 30 yards, once in the endzone that was well defended, and around four drops. He finished 5 of 12 but the ball was where it should be placed 11 out of 12 times.
 
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Dobbs looked to have a stronger arm - more velocity on the ball. Now that his RS is burned, I say play him. He can actually run the QB option with the option to keep the ball. We will need to pass well against Missouri to win and I like how Dobbs handled himself against that red team...
 
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Sarms58 said:
Dobbs looked to have a stronger arm - more velocity on the ball. Now that his RS is burned, I say play him. He can actually run the QB option with the option to keep the ball. We will need to pass well against Missouri to win and I like how Dobbs handled himself against that red team...
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IMO, it boils down to this: this season can't be about just preparing for next. Jones needs to get to a bowl game. He needs to continue to generate interest and excitement in the program, and the extra 3 weeks of practice in December is huge. Plus, recruits are going to be lot more excited about committing to a program that is in a bowl game, vs. a team that just finished 5-7 for a 3rd straight year.

If he thinks Dobbs gives him an equal shot at winning, then by all means, play him. But if he still thinks Worley is his best QB for the next month, he has to go back to him. Or Peterman or Ferguson or a midget clown for that matter. Get. to. a. bowl. game.
 
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93AllvolSc said:
Heres the stat that is impressive to me 1st half with Worley at qb UT 0 Bama 35
Second Half with Dobbs at qb UT 10 Bama 10
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Post of The Year!!...point I've been trying to make everyone calling for our defence...defence can't do their job when winded and can't get a break = when Worley is QB. When dobbs was in at QB we moved the ball and gave the Defence a "Break"

im sorry I missed something...which QB was the one who led us to putting points on the board Worley??? nah was a true freshman who led us to score 10 points on a number #1 ranked Team...Worley can't make plays with his feet, his passes are off the mark yeah he can find a good pass every once in awhile but a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile also...we burnt dobbs is redshirt so let the best guy win the job and go from there
 
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Tokeup69 said:
Post of The Year!!...point I've been trying to make everyone calling for our defence...defence can't do their job when winded and can't get a break = when Worley is QB. When dobbs was in at QB we moved the ball and gave the Defence a "Break"
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I don't disagree here, but what excuses can you make for the first drive of the game where a screen pass goes for 50+ and a TD? Defensive play calling early on begged for Bama to score points, and they did just that.
 
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keckjm said:
I don't disagree here, but what excuses can you make for the first drive of the game where a screen pass goes for 50+ and a TD? Defensive play calling early on begged for Bama to score points, and they did just that.
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that ill agree was totally blown call they called the same play back to back...defence was frozen with fear...but honestly at half time the offence can't score with Worley...you have to have a offence that sparks the defence to make the big plays when your offence can't move the ball it kills the Defence and even more so for the vols since so thin on depth...hats off to the coaches for teaching these guys not to quit that was the best part of the whole game!
 
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Tokeup69 said:
that ill agree was totally blown call they called the same play back to back...defence was frozen with fear...but honestly at half time the offence can't score with Worley...you have to have a offence that sparks the defence to make the big plays when your offence can't move the ball it kills the Defence and even more so for the vols since so thin on depth...hats off to the coaches for teaching these guys not to quit that was the best part of the whole game!
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I am not trying to be mean or rude here, but it is offense and defense, not offence and defence.
 
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I think Dobbs looked surprisingly calm and smooth for a true freshman who's first action was against den ceding national champs and current #1 team. I almost felt more comfortable watching him throw the ball whereas when Worley throws I get nervous.
 
#96
#96
Look past the statline.

Dobbs was calm and collected in the pocket.

He read/ran the read-option well.

He had some very good zip on the ball when he threw it.

He had some drops. This could be due to the ball coming in differently with Dobbs than Worley. Dobbs' arm looks stronger so they could be coming in much faster as well. I have no idea... just throwing that out there.

Overall Dobbs did look good.
 
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DC Vol said:
Look past the statline.

Dobbs was calm and collected in the pocket.
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Which doesn't mean alot if you don't complete passes. I am all for him but this is well over played by now...

He read/ran the read-option well.
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IIRC, he ran it once for good yardage then a time or two more for nada.

He had some very good zip on the ball when he threw it.
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Better than I expected honestly. I have been excited about him since he signed but thought his arm looked a little understrength from his HS highlights.

He had some drops. This could be due to the ball coming in differently with Dobbs than Worley. Dobbs' arm looks stronger so they could be coming in much faster as well. I have no idea... just throwing that out there.
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Very unlikely his arm is stronger at this point. But he did throw it well. I didn't see any drops. I did see him try to fit it in to closely covered receivers. Some of those were plays where the receiver has to protect the ball with his body and then come to the ball and snatch it. Both he and Worley lost receptions because Bama defenders were able to play the ball through them.
 
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sjt18 said:
Which doesn't mean alot if you don't complete passes. I am all for him but this is well over played by now...
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I think it's just impressive to most that he came in as a true freshman against the best team in the country, at their house, and didn't play afraid. I don't think it's overplayed, that's just how it is. I guess when he wriggles out of 2 would-be sacks to extend a play shows nothing about his composure.

IIRC, he ran it once for good yardage then a time or two more for nada.
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He ran it once for 11, once for 7 and once for 2. That is 3 carries on the read-option which just about equals Worley's totals for the entire year. Sarcasm, of course, but you get my point. The coaches haven't built the offense around the read-option but Dobbs/Ferg are better fits in this aspect than Worley, no doubt there.

Better than I expected honestly. I have been excited about him since he signed but thought his arm looked a little understrength from his HS highlights.
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Thought his passes had good zip on them. I think the reports are that Ferg had the stronger arm of the 2 but overall Dobbs' arm certainly looks good enough as a freshman to make the throws we need him to make this year.

Very unlikely his arm is stronger at this point. But he did throw it well. I didn't see any drops. I did see him try to fit it in to closely covered receivers. Some of those were plays where the receiver has to protect the ball with his body and then come to the ball and snatch it. Both he and Worley lost receptions because Bama defenders were able to play the ball through them.
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I saw I think 4 passes to covered receivers but some of them were certainly catchable. I think it was Josh Smith that had 2 drops that should have been caught but I'll freely admit that by this point I was not of the clearest mind.
 
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sjt18 said:
Very unlikely his arm is stronger at this point. But he did throw it well. I didn't see any drops. I did see him try to fit it in to closely covered receivers. Some of those were plays where the receiver has to protect the ball with his body and then come to the ball and snatch it. Both he and Worley lost receptions because Bama defenders were able to play the ball through them.
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There were some pretty catchable balls that were dropped by the receivers. If they had caught what was hitting them in the numbers, he'd probably be 8/12 or so.

Dobbs appeared to have more zip on it, but comparing that to Worley's first half performance isn't exactly fair. I think Worley was still suffering from the injury from USCjr and it appeared to show in his passes.
 
#100
#100
Dobbs looked good in the second half. Not great but definitely better than Worley. Only disappointment was the one deep throw where we had a step on the DB and the ball was under thrown.
 
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