Does anyone else wish we had cross divisional tournaments in football like basketball?

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I was looking at this weekends games in the Big 12/SEC basketball challenge:

SEC/Big 12 Challenge (January 28, 2023):

  • Alabama at Oklahoma
  • Arkansas at Baylor
  • Auburn at West Virginia
  • Florida at Kansas State
  • Kansas at Kentucky
  • Texas Tech at LSU
  • Ole Miss at Oklahoma State
  • TCU at Mississippi State
  • Iowa State at Missouri
  • Texas at Tennessee

Does anyone else wish the would do this in football? Could you imagine those same matchups with our football teams. Talk about must see TV!
 
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It would be helpful. Sometimes conferences get a little over rated and other under appreciated because they only play each other. For example, knowing what we know now did it make sense to have two Big 10 football teams in the Playoffs? If Michigan had played some of the better teams from other conferences they would have probably been exposed before TCU did it for us.
 
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It would be fun as a season kick off thing. Like the second week of the year is reserved for these cross conference games.

Give both sides a chance to "warm up". Give bragging rights to a conference. Better picture of who belongs in the playoffs.

Only issue I see is it's the power FIVE. So we need to give one conference a rest, bring up at G5 league, or split it some other way.

Only issue I see is the differing number of teams in each conference. Maybe leave out the bottom schools if there are too many?
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
It would be helpful. Sometimes conferences get a little over rated and other under appreciated because they only play each other. For example, knowing what we know now did it make sense to have two Big 10 football teams in the Playoffs? If Michigan had played some of the better teams from other conferences they would have probably been exposed before TCU did it for us.
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Except that the better playoff Big 10 team lost to Michigan. I dont see how you could go into the playoffs and make an argument for OSU over Michigan, with a head to head victory and an extra game.
 
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hog88 said:
I wish there was a rule that required P5 teams to only play other P5 teams in OOC games to be eligible for the playoffs.
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Never happen. You'll never even get a rule that P5 teams can only play FBS teams, let alone only P5 teams. That would kill FCS sports as they count on those payday games to fund their programs.
 
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Might happen when P5 teams form their own "Division."

Not too far away..............
 
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miket4god said:
Never happen. You'll never even get a rule that P5 teams can only play FBS teams, let alone only P5 teams. That would kill FCS sports as they count on those payday games to fund their programs.
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I hear this a lot and I disagree with it. Plenty of schools make it without playing a P5 school every year.
 
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Yeah I just think coaches would not be as excited as fans. So many of their contracts hit different based off win totals. We all know they like to get a couple cream puffs to compensate their 4 conference wins. Thats what would stop it more than anything. ADs will almsost certainly cater to coaches wants.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah I just think coaches would not be as excited as fans. So many of their contracts hit different based off win totals. We all know they like to get a couple cream puffs to compensate their 4 conference wins. Thats what would stop it more than anything. ADs will almsost certainly cater to coaches wants.
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Except those same ADs would be able leverage those games/tournaments into more TV dollars. And that's really what.drives the sport. I dont think it was the coaches begging to let in Mizzou and TAMU.
 
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Not arguing against P5-only schedules, but it would be another blow (after NIL) for smaller schools needing that appearance money for their annual sacrificial beatings.
 
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VolNExile said:
Not arguing against P5-only schedules, but it would be another blow (after NIL) for smaller schools needing that appearance money for their annual sacrificial beatings.
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I have no problem w/ 9 or even 10 conference games w/ 2 or 1 P5 opponents and a MAC or Sun Belt squad on the schedule. Half the Sun Belt is better than most in the Acc anyway. I just think we need scheduling uniformity among the Power 5.
 
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hog88 said:
I wish there was a rule that required P5 teams to only play other P5 teams in OOC games to be eligible for the playoffs.
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Hopefully with SEC realignment, there will be 9 conference games, 1 OOC Power 5 game, and only 2 OOC lower division opponents.
 
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miket4god said:
Never happen. You'll never even get a rule that P5 teams can only play FBS teams, let alone only P5 teams. That would kill FCS sports as they count on those payday games to fund their programs.
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Yup. I don't mind the idea of scheduling one non P5 team a year. Opening game warmup/"scrimmage" type of thing.

Pays the bills for small schools and allows more kid to participate in cfb. Lets the bigger team "work out the kinks" in situations where one mistake by a freshman is probably not going to cost the team the game.
 
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C/O said:
I hear this a lot and I disagree with it. Plenty of schools make it without playing a P5 school every year.
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What is "plenty"? I would agree some can but I would argue they are the minority, and even most of them still do it every few years. Most of the ones that don't have to are the ones that eventually move up.
 
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VOLnVANDYland said:
Best OOC rivals have some regional crossover and hatred … i don’t think UCLA would GAS
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I have never even thought about VaTech. They would at best be a Vandy level of rival. They arent on our level. There is no real hatred from us to them, cant speak about their feelings. We dont really recruit against them.
 
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hog88 said:
I wish there was a rule that required P5 teams to only play other P5 teams in OOC games to be eligible for the playoffs.
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I can't go with this 100%. UT's FCS schedule benfits one instate FCS program anually. They help provide funding to UT-Martin, APSU, and TTU, by rotating them on their OOC schedule. They might would rotate more of them, but I don't think TSU ever asks or agrees to play. In-state or note, I'm not against P5 teams having one FCS opponent in regards that the one game provides needed funds to those schools.

I would be more agreeable to altering the G5 schools left on the OOC. UT typically will schedule one P5, two G5, and one FCS. I'm not suer if others follow the same arrangements. Atleast most, if not all SEC teams, play one P5 OOc early season. USC, Stanford and a others always have ND. I could totally agree with 2-P5, 1-G5, and 1-FCS. I think that is reasonable and other teams still get to make budget playing up. Besides, you can pick certain P5 cellar dwellers and have easier cupcake games than more formidable G5 teams you could choose. It's more relative to the team, than the conference or classification. There's a reason FCS North Dakota State rarely, if ever, gets scheduled by a P5 team. Arizona did this year and only won by 3. Iowa gave South Dakota State a try and only won 7-3.
 
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