Does anyone know if CBJ is going to have open practices?

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One thing I did like about Kiffin was on days that I was bored I could go sit on the bleachers beside the practice field and watch the team practice. All I had to do was sign in with the girl sitting at the table by the gate. I know Dooley put a stop to anyone being able to watch practice. Has Butch said anything regarding his stance? I know he's shooting to be the anti-Dooley so just curious.
 
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I'm more concerned with Coach Jones' shower discipline for this team. Dooley did a fantastic job at fighting off staph infections once he enacted his shower reforms.
 
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I am a bit torn on the idea of open practices.

With new coaches, new schemes, new players and every other change, I really believe that the team needs some time for focused practice with no distractions. We have fans twatting high school recruits, their parents, or girlfriends so I have no faith that open practices wouldn't attract the sort of person who would do nothing but cause problems (even if their intentions are good).

Practice should be open to the media, former players, administration and faculty. Does anyone here believe that they should be allowed to walk onto campus and sit in a sophomore engineering class? I would hope not, how is football practice any different?

I don't even think this is an issue isolated to the discussion of fan decorum and boundaries, but also (and most importantly) an issue of safety.

All that soap box opera and I have no idea if CBJ will allow fans to attend practice. :)
 
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I'm more concerned with Coach Jones' shower discipline for this team. Dooley did a fantastic job at fighting off staph infections once he enacted his shower reforms.

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. . . Practice should be open to the media, former players, administration and faculty. Does anyone here believe that they should be allowed to walk onto campus and sit in a sophomore engineering class? I would hope not, how is football practice any different? . . . .

Not a fair comparision, IMO.

Not even a member of the media nor a former player (or other student for that matter) can walk into a classroom because you have be registered for the class to attend. Those who are attending the class paid to do so. You can not even audit a class for free unless there are special circumstances.

As for practice, I don't really see the value. At one point in my career, I was paid to attend the practices of different teams, and I was still bored. But, that said, I don't really think there is any harm in folks attending the practices. As long as there are designated places for them to stay, and the rules for attendance are clear, there's no real harm.
 
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I imagine they will be mostly closed during the season??? I went to one of Fulmer's practices and you had to be on a list to get in, but it was during the season.
 
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Not a fair comparision, IMO.

Not even a member of the media nor a former player (or other student for that matter) can walk into a classroom because you have be registered for the class to attend. Those who are attending the class paid to do so. You can not even audit a class for free unless there are special circumstances.

As for practice, I don't really see the value. At one point in my career, I was paid to attend the practices of different teams, and I was still bored. But, that said, I don't really think there is any harm in folks attending the practices. As long as there are designated places for them to stay, and the rules for attendance are clear, there's no real harm.

I totally disagree.

Regardless of the caliber of athlete, and accounting for the small percentage of them who actually go pro, these are still college students. While you agree that you can't attend a class with other students, for a plethora of reasons including their safety and privacy, I would suggest that practices have the same sort of expectation of privacy. The fact that the University can exclude anyone from a practice indicates that no matter how much the average fan might WANT to attend, there is no inherent RIGHT to attend (just like a class).

Herein lies the problem: the fact that fans think that there is a right or an expectation that they should have access to the objects of their obsessions (student athletes) actually, to me, indicates that they should not be allowed to attend.

Maybe I am just in a bad mood tonight.
 
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Good lord... if you think an auditorium filled 200 students and one professor wouldnt notice you sitting in youre crazy. If you really want to go to Anthropology 101 and hear the lecture on Chilean Mountain People, go for it.

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I'm fairly certain practices were open at Cincy, so I wouldn't expect any different here.

In Cincinnati even games were open..I was there during Kelly times and he used to grab people from cafeteria and take them to games..stadium is never filled ...
 
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I totally disagree.

Regardless of the caliber of athlete, and accounting for the small percentage of them who actually go pro, these are still college students. While you agree that you can't attend a class with other students, for a plethora of reasons including their safety and privacy, I would suggest that practices have the same sort of expectation of privacy. The fact that the University can exclude anyone from a practice indicates that no matter how much the average fan might WANT to attend, there is no inherent RIGHT to attend (just like a class).

Herein lies the problem: the fact that fans think that there is a right or an expectation that they should have access to the objects of their obsessions (student athletes) actually, to me, indicates that they should not be allowed to attend.

Maybe I am just in a bad mood tonight.


I absolutely agree that there is no right of the public to attend these practices. If the coach chooses to close the practices, even to the media, that is his choice and within his purview.

As to the other arguments, I don't really see the validity.

Student athletes forfeit their privacy when they make the choice to play football at a big-time program. Every public gesture, bad decision or blatant, bone-headed move they make is public knowledge. Every time they walk out the door, the are subject to all the crap that comes with the "public figure" status. There are countless petty theft, D&D, PD, DWI, assault, battery and other things that happen every night on and around the campus that don't make the news reports. But, what happens when a football player in involved?

How many other students are named in the paper when they fail a drug test?

The safety argument holds even less water, IMO. These students are living an everyday life. They come and go everywhere around town all the time. If someone was intent on doing harm to one of them, I fail to see how closing a practice would aid in stopping it.

I really don't care one way or another. As I stated in another post, I have attended a great number of college and NFL football practices, and honestly, the thought that someone would sit and watch one as a form of entertainment is hard for me to understand. I just don't see any harm in it.

The Rams have some open practices. They announce them in advance and make sure that everything is in place for them. They usually have a few every year. I assume it is to help build interest. If UT opened them up, I would assume it would be something like that. I don't see them allowing anyone to come and go to any practice.
 
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