Does your job pay you for wrecking its reputation?

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Jobs like these, where you can royally f up and still get a massive parting gift, most people never get a chance to get. It happens with football coaches all the time but fortunately most failed football coaches haven't killed anyone in the process.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Meh, I doubt he had anything to do with the computer program that was the problem. He's just the one at the top they can blame.
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Well if it were to work and Boeing made a ton of money on it he would get credit even though I doubt he had anything to do with it.

He did tell the BOD that a fix was on the way and he strung along investors to keep the stock price somewhat afloat. He definitely should take the blame for that. It was all a lie and he knew it. He should have been up front about how bad the problem was instead of sugar coating and telling half truths.
 
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rjd970 said:
Well if it were to work and Boeing made a ton of money on it he would get credit even though I doubt he had anything to do with it.

He did tell the BOD that a fix was on the way and he strung along investors to keep the stock price somewhat afloat. He definitely should take the blame for that. It was all a lie and he knew it. He should have been up front about how bad the problem was instead of sugar coating and telling half truths.
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I follow you there. I don't underatand why the complete program hasn't been rewritten. Surely by now they have identified the part of the program that was causing the problem.
 
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My job technically doesn't BUT if you do F up and get fired for cause and then get a lawyer they will fall over themselves throwing bags of cash at you to stop from going to trial.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I follow you there. I don't underatand why the complete program hasn't been rewritten. Surely by now they have identified the part of the program that was causing the problem.
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The program itself was written because of an inherent design flaw with the aircraft related to the Center of mass making the plane want to pitch up due to the new engines it had.

It's all a gigantic mess that's way more complicated than just a software issue.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Meh, I doubt he had anything to do with the computer program that was the problem. He's just the one at the top they can blame.
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You make a decent point. These CEOs rotate in and out of companies so quickly that by the time they implement a program or make changes, the effects of those changes are not felt until long after they have left. That is why I have always been an proponent of not paying off CEO incentives as soon as they leave the company. There needs to be at least a 5 year lag so that there is enough time to see if the changes made by the CEO were effective and beneficial to the company.

I usually don't cut these guys any slack, but in this case, this 737 Max program was started probably long before he got the reins.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You make a decent point. These CEOs rotate in and out of companies so quickly that by the time they implement a program or make changes, the effects of those changes are not felt until long after they have left. That is why I have always been an proponent of not paying off CEO incentives as soon as they leave the company. There needs to be at least a 5 year lag so that there is enough time to see if the changes made by the CEO were effective and beneficial to the company.

I usually don't cut these guys any slack, but in this case, this 737 Max program was started probably long before he got the reins.
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Here is your super-genius right here. All venom and criticisms should be aimed at this guy, the prior CEO at Boeing.

James McNerney - Wikipedia

On June 30, 2005, The Boeing Company hired McNerney as the chairman, President and CEO. McNerney oversaw the strategic direction of the Chicago-based, $61.5 billion aerospace company with a focus on spending controls.[10] With more than 160,500 employees, Boeing is the largest manufacturer of commercial airliners and military aircraft, with capabilities in aircraft, rotorcraft, electronic and defense systems, missiles, satellites and advanced information and communications systems.

As Boeing's first CEO without a background in aviation, he made the decision to upgrade the 737 series to 737 MAX instead of developing a new model.
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