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If some people think that it's a done deal then I believe it's someone that's not coaching now, and I'm like alot of people that I want Gruden, but lets look at the coaches that are not coaching right now that are looking at getting back in to coaching....Jon Gruden, Herman Edwards, Dennis Green, Butch Davis, Steve Mariucci, Jim Tressell, Bobby Petrino, Phillip Fulmer....Tony Dungy(retired), Bill Cowher(retired), there maybe more coaches, (not counting coaches that were just fired)... Out of this group besides Gruden who do you see that we would consider.........
 
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Fulmer, Tressel, Davis are legit possibilities. Mariucci is one I hadn't thought of, but I kind of like it.
 
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bigslk said:
If some people think that it's a done deal then I believe it's someone that's not coaching now, and I'm like alot of people that I want Gruden, but lets look at the coaches that are not coaching right now that are looking at getting back in to coaching....Jon Gruden, Herman Edwards, Dennis Green, Butch Davis, Steve Mariucci, Jim Tressell, Bobby Petrino, Phillip Fulmer....Tony Dungy(retired), Bill Cowher(retired), there maybe more coaches, (not counting coaches that were just fired)... Out of this group besides Gruden who do you see that we would consider.........
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Herman Edwards :sick:
Dennis Green - 26–63 in college :sick:

Everyone on that list is bad..Hart said he wanted someone with HC success..Tressell, Petrino, Fulmer all fit that mold. Tressell and Petrino are scumbags that can kill a program, Fulmer is Fulmer.
 
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If Fulmer comes back, I turn in my Tennessee card and wish a thousand years of locus upon Knoxville...
 
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Davis if its a done deal. Sure would be nice if it was Gruden tho.

Although I'd take the sweater vest but it would never happen.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Herman Edwards :sick:
Dennis Green - 26–63 in college :sick:

Everyone on that list is bad..Hart said he wanted someone with HC success..Tressell, Petrino, Fulmer all fit that mold. Tressell and Petrino are scumbags that can kill a program, Fulmer is Fulmer.
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I agree with what you say, I'm just trying to narrow this list down just like everyone else, hopefully Gruden for me...... :hi:
 
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howie87 said:
If Fulmer comes back, I turn in my Tennessee card and wish a thousand years of locus upon Knoxville...
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Agreed. Would not cause me to abandon UT but would go about it like I do basketball. Go to a game or two a year and not know who they are playing without looking it up. Fulmer would cause complete apathy from me.
 
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History has shown that a coach who has been fired from a major college previously, almost never has significant success at another major college. I don't think Butch Davis or Tressel or any of these other retreads would be a smart idea.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Neither Fulmer nor Tressel are even close to being possibilities. It's ludicrous to even think so.
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I have to agree here.. Fulmer is not coming back.. Tressell is at least couple years away IMO from coaching at a major university..
 
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oregonvol said:
History has shown that a coach who has been fired from a major college previously, almost never has significant success at another major college. I don't think Butch Davis or Tressel or any of these other retreads would be a smart idea.
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In defense, that history your citing is when coaches are fired from one school and hired by a different one. Most coaches who go back for a second stint usually hold their own.
 
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dimera23 said:
Fulmer, Tressel, Davis are legit possibilities. Mariucci is one I hadn't thought of, but I kind of like it.
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Davis definitely isnt. John Adams said Petrino( which anybody with any football sense knows he isnt gonna be our coach) and that Davis and his history of sanctions cant be trusted since were already on probation.. i agree Mariucci is a name I have never thought of. Think we have Gruden but if for some reason it doesnt happen Steve wouldnt be a bad option.
 
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Hart needs to get on his horse and get this done. With Auburn, Arky, KY, NC St, BC, and a cast of other schools pushing for a big hire, I don't want to see hart lose ground because he is waiting for Dec.
 
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bigslk said:
If some people think that it's a done deal then I believe it's someone that's not coaching now, and I'm like alot of people that I want Gruden, but lets look at the coaches that are not coaching right now that are looking at getting back in to coaching....Jon Gruden, Herman Edwards, Dennis Green, Butch Davis, Steve Mariucci, Jim Tressell, Bobby Petrino, Phillip Fulmer....Tony Dungy(retired), Bill Cowher(retired), there maybe more coaches, (not counting coaches that were just fired)... Out of this group besides Gruden who do you see that we would consider.........
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If that group, Cowher would be by far the best. However, I am sure he has no interest in coaching especially at a college level
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Agreed. Would not cause me to abandon UT but would go about it like I do basketball. Go to a game or two a year and not know who they are playing without looking it up. Fulmer would cause complete apathy from me.
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I agree but so would Golden
 
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JMSqb11 said:
In defense, that history your citing is when coaches are fired from one school and hired by a different one. Most coaches who go back for a second stint usually hold their own.
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Hmmm...I was making my point in regards to Tressel, Davis, Tubberville, etc. Had not really considered Fulmer. Is there any example of a coach who has been fired by a major college program, returning to said program? I can't think of any. Maybe 50-60 years ago.

I think Fulmer falls in with my other examples. I think the point that history makes is that once a coach has hit a lull, gone downhill, had a scandal, etc. done enough harm at a major program to cause himself to be fired, his career hardly ever bounces back, even if he does get another opportunity.
 
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oregonvol said:
Hmmm...I was making my point in regards to Tressel, Davis, Tubberville, etc. Had not really considered Fulmer. Is there any example of a coach who has been fired by a major college program, returning to said program? I can't think of any. Maybe 50-60 years ago.

I think Fulmer falls in with my other examples. I think the point that history makes is that once a coach has hit a lull, gone downhill, had a scandal, etc. done enough harm at a major program to cause himself to be fired, his career hardly ever bounces back, even if he does get another opportunity.
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Well you are correct in a way. While it is very rare in the last 50 years, look at the total number of coaches who leave a school and come back later to that same school. Most hold their own. Since this is a rarity, you must not be one sided when naming why they left the first time. You have to included firings and/or retiring or leaving for another gig. O
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Well you are correct in a way. While it is very rare in the last 50 years, look at the total number of coaches who leave a school and come back later to that same school. Most hold their own. Since this is a rarity, you must not be one sided when naming why they left the first time. You have to included firings and/or retiring or leaving for another gig. O
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Yeah, the difference is that coaches who leave on their own terms are a different animal. Their career isn't necessarily on the downside, but could even be on the upswing. Coaches who are fired are the ones who have lost something (be it their ability to win consistently or their reputation via a scandal or what have you) and history shows that they hardly ever get it back. Usually, they continue their downward trajectory.

Oddly enough this only seems to apply to major college coaches. Pro coaches can get fired and bounce back rather easily.
 
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oregonvol said:
Yeah, the difference is that coaches who leave on their own terms are a different animal. Their career isn't necessarily on the downside, but could even be on the upswing. Coaches who are fired are the ones who have lost something (be it their ability to win consistently or their reputation via a scandal or what have you) and history shows that they hardly ever get it back. Usually, they continue their downward trajectory.

Oddly enough this only seems to apply to major college coaches. Pro coaches can get fired and bounce back rather easily.
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True that. I have a feeling we might see a lot of previously fired coaches back at schools. I've heard tubs back at AU possibly, Amato back at NCST and O'Brien at BC.

Should know lol
 
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Fulmer would represent "no change". Davis and Tressel represent more trouble (NCAA) wherever they go. Besides, I don't believe Tressel has ever beaten an SEC team. Cross all three of those guys off your list! I am not familiar with Mariuchi. If it is not Gruden, Stoops, Fisher, or Peterson, then we are looking at virtually all of the bottom-dwellers to find our next HC. Good luck with that!
 
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