Don't write off Peterman for Butch's mistake

[Eddie Vol Halen]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

 

[GahLee]

Sure Butch made a mistake by not pulling him but to lay it all at his feet is asinine at best. Peterman was horrid, then he got hurt, then he lied about it. He deserves some blame as well.

"A UT great"? When the last time you seen a truly great player struggle that badly? Kid may end up being a decent player but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[roosterjbh]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

Butch didn't make those wrong calls at the line or throw those picks. Maybe he shouldnt have left him out there so long, but most of the blame rests on Peterman.

Hope he gets a chance to redeem himself.

 

[orange parmejohn]

Sure Butch made a mistake by not pulling him but to lay it all at his feet is asinine at best. Peterman was horrid, then he got hurt, then he lied about it. He deserves some blame as well.

"A UT great"? When the last time you seen a truly great player struggle that badly? Kid may end up being a decent player but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath.

If Peterman had the surrounding talent that some of those "UT greats" had, he would probably be a much better quarterback right now.

 

[NashVOL93]

Butch didn't make those wrong calls at the line or throw those picks. Maybe he shouldnt have left him out there so long, but most of the blame rests on Peterman.

Hope he gets a chance to redeem himself.

Great post. Some people on here, who I'm guessing have never played organized sports of any kind before, act like coaching football is like playing NCAA or something, as if the coach is responsible for any and all bonehead decisions a player makes on or off the field and is controlling their every move with a joystick from the sideline. It's probably time to put down the Xbox controller. The players play the game, not the coaches.

 

[orange parmejohn]

Great post. Some people on here, who I'm guessing have never played organized sports of any kind before, act like coaching football is like playing NCAA or something, as if the coach is responsible for any and all bonehead decisions a player makes on or off the field and is controlling their every move with a joystick from the sideline. It's probably time to put down the Xbox controller. The players play the game, not the coaches.

I don't think it's even possible to call a play on NCAA that allows the entire defensive line to hit your QB at the same time.

 

[NashVOL93]

I don't think it's even possible to call a play on NCAA that allows the entire defensive line to hit your QB at the same time.

Probably not. The O-line stood still in an odd but logical attempt to expose the penalty that should have been called on the D-line.

 

[JoeltonVol]

Starting him at FLA was one of the only big things I think Butch got wrong last year. If Worley had started that game, they very well may have won.

 

[oldfartvol]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

Someone should start a thread suggesting CBJ go ahead and name his starting QB. I don't recall this being discussed and feel this topic has been completely overlooked by VN fans.:tease2:

VFE

 

[orange parmejohn]

Probably not. The O-line stood still in an odd but logical attempt to expose the penalty that should have been called on the D-line.

Yeah dude, that statement was just the first thing that popped in my head thinking of that Gif. Your post has some validity, although I understand both sides of the argument.

 

[orange parmejohn]

Someone should start a thread suggesting CBJ go ahead and name his starting QB. I don't recall this being discussed and feel this topic has been completely overlooked by VN fans.:tease2:

VFE

I was admittedly in that camp. Swain and Ainge were whispering sweet nothings in my ear, on the radio, and I believed Worley was all pro. :/

 

[james_govols]

Last season was last season....Peterman has a chance this year to start fresh. I'm just hoping one quarterback pulls away from the rest. I could care less who it is.

 

[KingtUT]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

That's the biggest and one of the only true mistakes BJ has made as our coach IMO. He caved in to fan pressure (myself included) to bench Worley. I was an idiot and so was butch for listening to us.

 

[Cohutta]

Last season was last season....Peterman has a chance this year to start fresh. I'm just hoping one quarterback pulls away from the rest. I could care less who it is.

I have been a longtime viewer, but first time poster. After countless threads about who their favorite horse is in the QB race, I have to agree with you. I just want the best guy out there to help us win. I trust the coaches and the rest of the team. I feel like all three of our scholarship QB's have a good relationship with the rest of the team. That's an important factor also. When you got support and respect from your team mates, confidence comes naturally. With that said, Go Big Orange! 20 days!

 

[99gator]

Beyond all the other reasons why I find this to be insane, Worley started to look pretty darn good at the time he got hurt.

I understand how vital the qb position is, but Worley was not close to the top of the list of problems last year.

I don't know how much clearer that can be when looking at Tennessee with Worley and Tennessee when someone else played qb.

 

[Spartacavolus]

He didn't cave into fan pressure. That's ridiculous. Peterman was first one in and last to leave the facility every day. He had practiced extremely well and Worley wasn't throwing the ball well or keeping it on the read option, which the defenses already figured out.
He made a move to try and win a game and it didn't work. Hindsight is great for telling people they were wrong
If you guys don't want a coach that will make gut moves to try and win games, that's your decision. But I'd rather have a coach try than be scared. Enough with the fan pressure bs though. He doesn't give a flip what some random message board posters think and the thought that he would is plain stupid.

 

[Cohutta]

Beyond all the other reasons why I find this to be insane, Worley started to look pretty darn good at the time he got hurt.

I understand how vital the qb position is, but Worley was not close to the top of the list of problems last year.

I don't know how much clearer that can be when looking at Tennessee with Worley and Tennessee when someone else played qb.

Exactly. Dropped passes everywhere. Mediocre running game at best. Our offensive line never lived up to their preseason expectations. Defense looked like they had lead weights in their shoes. Thanks Dooley! Hopefully we can dig ourselves out of this hole if wee keep up the good recruiting.

 

[vols4evah]

I have been a longtime viewer, but first time poster. After countless threads about who their favorite horse is in the QB race, I have to agree with you. I just want the best guy out there to help us win. I trust the coaches and the rest of the team. I feel like all three of our scholarship QB's have a good relationship with the rest of the team. That's an important factor also. When you got support and respect from your team mates, confidence comes naturally. With that said, Go Big Orange! 20 days!

welcome to the Boards mate !

 

[volbeast33]

Last season was last season....Peterman has a chance this year to start fresh. I'm just hoping one quarterback pulls away from the rest. I could care less who it is.

This is 100% the way I feel.

 

[volbeast33]

Starting him at FLA was one of the only big things I think Butch got wrong last year. If Worley had started that game, they very well may have won.

Maybe/Maybe not.....Worley played alot better after being benched at the start of that game then he did previously.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Maybe/Maybe not.....Worley played alot better after being benched at the start of that game then he did previously.

Yep. And he kept the ball instead of being scared to run it, which was big in beating SC and also effective in extending drives against Ga. That's why he was pulled in the first place and if people recall, Butch spoke about needing the qb to make plays by keeping the ball when they are there.

 

[MedicT]

Before we blame Coach Jones, we should also mention that prior to the FL game most of VN was in favor of starting the freshman in the Swamp.

 

[jonnon111]

Before we blame Coach Jones, we should also mention that prior to the FL game most of VN was in favor of starting the freshman in the Swamp.

Definitely. CBJ took a chance to win. We got beat but it seemed to light a fire in Worley. But I remember before UF everyone saga aid how bad are our backups bc Worley was struggling. Its a new year new mentality. Go big orange.

 

[butchna]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

"Solid #2". :happy:

 

[KBVol]

I know the Florida game will poison Peterman to many. It was some of the most shocking football ever witnessed.

Let's not forget though, it was Butch's mistake to start him in the Swamp. It was Butch's mistake to let two straight turnovers balloon into four straight and to make bad, worse.

The knocks on Peterman right now all belong to Butch.

I'd like to see Worley named the starter. Peterman looks like he has moved up to a solid #2 and good on the young man. When Fergie fled, Peterman manned-up and went to work despite the Florida disaster.

He might just turn into a UT great before he graduates.

Don't agree with you at all about "Butch's mistakes". He replaced his starting QB who had played very poorly the previous 2 weeks with his second string QB who had been performing well in practice. Kind of a no brainer IMO. The only issue I think anyone can have is that it was against Florida. However, we'd just gotten roasted by 45 pts at Oregon, we were obviously a very poor team, why not roll the dice and see if your second string QB could give your team a spark?

Secondly, if you're gonna give Peterman a shot, then give Peterman a shot. He only had 5 or so possessions in the first half. We were still very much in the game, down 17-7 at the half, despite Peterman's ridiculously poor play. I personally had no problem with both starting Peterman and then seeing if he could settle down and work through his early issues. He was given a fair shot, he was unable to show any poise or command, he was historically bad. Ok, now we know....back to the better QB who is Justin Worley.