DT List???

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MDBJJC

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We are hurting in this department...

Who's on the list, and can we fill our deficits with this class?

I know that we are thinking about employing a 3-4 this year, which makes me think that Lance and Derek are trying to add more LBs to the pot, but shoot we need SOME Dline this year.
 
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If we switch to a 3-4, then the hurt is not too bad. We have 2 pretty good tackles in Hughes and Walls along with Sykes and Brimfield. We need LBs.
 
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Thornton? We are still on his list.

C smith supposedly is going to fsu now with lemonier.

Quarles? He knows the program. I wonder if his dad ever talks to dd.

If searels comes we will have a stellar 2011 OL class.

With chuck and a top notch dc I think 2011 dts will be just fine.
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It's possible that we pick up some late decommits from other programs when prospects see early playing time. I am sure DD is aware of and is addressing the problem. Hope he can resolve it in the best possible way.
 
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I am definitely having the DTs for NSD to get here ASAP. I need me some LOIs so I will feel even better about CDD.
 
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What about David Mahoney, JC in Cali? IIRC he was taking 2 extra classes so he could get into UT. WSU is also in the picture per Rivals & Scout.
 
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If we do in fact go to a 3-4 then what happens to the DE's in that system? Do they get moved to Lb ? I'm not that familiar with the 3-4 so anyone who is can help that would be great, thanks. Also do you think that's why we don't have a DC because he don't want players to decommitt if they don't like that system, some DE might not want to play in a 3-4 and he don't want to limit who he can get if he announces a DC or a 3-4 system? Just wondering what you guys think?
 
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nashvol1 said:
If we switch to a 3-4, then the hurt is not too bad. We have 2 pretty good tackles in Hughes and Walls along with Sykes and Brimfield. We need LBs.
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our ends are way too small for a 3-4. We may play it, but we need 270-280 pound DEs to be effective. Our ends are linebacker size
 
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TD10EYEC said:
If we do in fact go to a 3-4 then what happens to the DE's in that system? Do they get moved to Lb ? I'm not that familiar with the 3-4 so anyone who is can help that would be great, thanks. Also do you think that's why we don't have a DC because he don't want players to decommitt if they don't like that system, some DE might not want to play in a 3-4 and he don't want to limit who he can get if he announces a DC or a 3-4 system? Just wondering what you guys think?
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The DT's would not be moving to LB. The smaller/faster ones (if we have any that match that criteria) could play some DE but most likely they will still just be used primarily as DTs. They will still be used in big sets like 3rd and short yardage plays and goal line sets. We just won't need as many of them as we have in the past.

Also having more DTs than we need keeps us from having depth issues as well as keeping a fresh D-Line out on the field at all times which is pertinent to stopping the run in our league.

The 3-4 has its advantages and disadvantages, but the one thing it really helps with is mixing up blitz packages and will create a faster defense for us sideline to sideline. It will be hard for teams to run the ball outside against a 3-4, however if we don't have good play out of the NT and two inside linebackers we will be very vulnerable against a bruising inside half back.

JMO
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
The DT's would not be moving to LB. The smaller/faster ones (if we have any that match that criteria) could play some DE but most likely they will still just be used primarily as DTs. They will still be used in big sets like 3rd and short yardage plays and goal line sets. We just won't need as many of them as we have in the past.

Also having more DTs than we need keeps us from having depth issues as well as keeping a fresh D-Line out on the field at all times which is pertinent to stopping the run in our league.

The 3-4 has its advantages and disadvantages, but the one thing it really helps with is mixing up blitz packages and will create a faster defense for us sideline to sideline. It will be hard for teams to run the ball outside against a 3-4, however if we don't have good play out of the NT and two inside linebackers we will be very vulnerable against a bruising inside half back.

JMO
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Reading comprehension is not your strong point huh?
 
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This is why I really hope Copeland doesn't go to LSU. He would be perfect as a defensive end in the 3-4, either way though I think he is going to be a good one.
 
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TD10EYEC said:
If we do in fact go to a 3-4 then what happens to the DE's in that system? Do they get moved to Lb ? I'm not that familiar with the 3-4 so anyone who is can help that would be great, thanks. Also do you think that's why we don't have a DC because he don't want players to decommitt if they don't like that system, some DE might not want to play in a 3-4 and he don't want to limit who he can get if he announces a DC or a 3-4 system? Just wondering what you guys think?
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I don't know about the returning DE's but I believe Jacques Smith will more than likely be moved to LB if we run a 3-4.
 
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Izzy said:
How do I start my own thread, I am new here
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Click on Forums @ the top of the page, then FB, BB, recruiting etc, where ever you want to start a thread, then click on new thread on the left of the page. Hope this helps and welcome.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
The DT's would not be moving to LB. The smaller/faster ones (if we have any that match that criteria) could play some DE but most likely they will still just be used primarily as DTs. They will still be used in big sets like 3rd and short yardage plays and goal line sets. We just won't need as many of them as we have in the past.

Also having more DTs than we need keeps us from having depth issues as well as keeping a fresh D-Line out on the field at all times which is pertinent to stopping the run in our league.

The 3-4 has its advantages and disadvantages, but the one thing it really helps with is mixing up blitz packages and will create a faster defense for us sideline to sideline. It will be hard for teams to run the ball outside against a 3-4, however if we don't have good play out of the NT and two inside linebackers we will be very vulnerable against a bruising inside half back.

JMO
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You are true in your analogy of the 3-4 ...
We just don't have the right personel to run it ...and we won't for awhile
There are 2 different ways to run the 3-4
The most common way is to employ a dominating nose tackle . Dan Williams would have done well at this ...but he is gone . Hughs has looked good at times but is not dominating . This player must tie up 2 blockers. The second method requires 2 very good tackles. We may have 1 very good tackle ...but that remains to be seen .

We do not have the type of backers to run a 3-4 . The outside backers play either hand down or up . They are hybrids between DE's and backs. 215 lbs isn't it. Think Gerald Williams size . The problem is ...it seems to be that you can't just plug a guy like Williams in and say 'now you are an outside backer' There is an art to it , a learning curve , and alot of guys just can't do it .

I am certain CDD is smart enough to know this stuff . A cold transition like this would be 'football suicide' However he could transition it into the defense by putting plays in for certian situations . Monte did some of that last season by dropping ends into coverage ( turning a 4-3 into a 3-4) When he gets the right personel I would think he could go full tilt 3-4
 
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