Early Enrollee info (split)

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Early enrollees, even though they actually physically enter school early, can still change their minds before signing day like any other player. Until he signs his scholarship in February, he's a student and not an athlete.
 
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Tennessee Jack said:
there's not an early signing period for football.
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EricFreakingBerry said:
Early enrollees, even though they actually physically enter school early, can still change their minds before signing day like any other player. Until he signs his scholarship in February, he's a student and not an athlete.
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This is incorrect. Early Enrollees just enroll. They sign all their scholarship papers in the spring. They never sign a Letter of intent and cannot get out of the school without transferring just like any other currently enrolled player.

The exception to the LOI deal is Junior College transfers. They do sign LOIs in December.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
This is incorrect. Early Enrollees just enroll. They sign all their scholarship papers in the spring. They never sign a Letter of intent and cannot get out of the school without transferring just like any other currently enrolled player.

The exception to the LOI deal is Junior College transfers. They do sign LOIs in December.
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Well done.
 
#8
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What are you saying Sab? Eric can't put his thoughts into words?

He knows the game, but he can't teach it?:)
 
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so sab....like any ee like james or willis that enrolls early is here for good unless they want to transfer and then they have to sit out a year is that right???? but when u get here early u cant switch schools before signing day correct ???
 
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For a player to participate with a team in the spring he must be enrolled for the spring semester so he can be added to the roster for the spring. Once he starts classes he becomes an athlete for that school and from that point on has to continue on their roster or transfer out and then sit a year out. A NLI is only signed by a prospect, not an athlete who was already enrolled in the spring semester.

Hence this is why an EE can not sign a NLI, because they are no longer a prospect, they are an athlete. The only exception is a JUCO who is coming in and their signing day is Dec 15th I believe.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
This is incorrect. Early Enrollees just enroll. They sign all their scholarship papers in the spring. They never sign a Letter of intent and cannot get out of the school without transferring just like any other currently enrolled player.

The exception to the LOI deal is Junior College transfers. They do sign LOIs in December.
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I was talking about high school kids. This is a thread about a 2010 prospect (HS student) and he won't be signing an LOI in December.
 
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I had just found this article a few months back and was remembering it. Wouldn't be the first case of bad sports journalism if not true.

Rivals.com - Early enrollees rising

A player who enrolls in January does not count as part of that year's recruiting class since he comes to school prior to that year's class which signs letters of intent in February.

So, for early entrants to be allowed to enroll, there already has to be enough scholarships on hand, either due to attrition or because a team is not at the NCAA maximum of 85 scholarship players on a roster.

The early enrollment process also begs another question:

Since early enrollees do not actually sign their scholarship until Signing Day (the first Wednesday in February), could a player technically enroll in school then change his mind and go somewhere else before a scholarship is actually signed?

The answer is apparently yes.

According to Georgia sports information, since the athlete is technically a student and not an athlete until the scholarship is signed, he could, if he so desired change his mind and elect to go somewhere else.
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Actually the only thing that is signed on that Wednesday is a NLI which states the financial agreement between the school and the prospect. There is no scholarship awarded that day, only a future agreement that one will be honored. All players including incoming freshman have to sign or renew their schoalrship by July 1st each summer. An EE can not sign at any time a NLI.

We had 3 players at UA sign a NLI in Feb. but since they were grayshirted none of them received a scholarship or did they sign it in July.
 
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EricFreakingBerry said:
I had just found this article a few months back and was remembering it. Wouldn't be the first case of bad sports journalism if not true.

Rivals.com - Early enrollees rising
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hmmm..so EEs are backcounted. that's interesting. I wonder how it plays into the 25 or 28 limit of the previous year. will teams have to turn away EEs if they have used up their scholarship limits? lv...you seem to keep up with this stuff?
 
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EE can be backcounted if there is room only, if not count towards the upcoming class. If a player receives financial aid to EE for the spring then they become apart of that program. If they decide to leave after classes begin they will not be allowed to play or speak to another program until their former program gives them permission. This protects the school they EE in.
 
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EricFreakingBerry said:
Early enrollees, even though they actually physically enter school early, can still change their minds before signing day like any other player. Until he signs his scholarship in February, he's a student and not an athlete.
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Not quite.

Sabanocchio said:
This is incorrect. Early Enrollees just enroll. They sign all their scholarship papers in the spring. They never sign a Letter of intent and cannot get out of the school without transferring just like any other currently enrolled player.

The exception to the LOI deal is Junior College transfers. They do sign LOIs in December.
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Exactly. Perfect post.
 
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So do the kids have to come out of there pockets and or get aid for the spring. Where do they live what money do they eat on etc....
 
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ljeller said:
Not quite.
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Like I said, I got information from an article whose journalist appears to have been misinformed. However, I found another post that seems to again point in a different direction:

http://mgoblog.com/content/will-campbell-student-directory#comment-47889" said:
In fact, unless the school has paid via scholarship, or you have participated in coached activities, you can transfer at will to any school without penalty. It would be no different than a student taking calculus at Eastern instead of Michigan to fulfill that credit. You could do that even as a football player. You'd be enrolled at both schools. No penalty for that. He's completely free to change his mind until he shows up to class and the athletic department officially spends money on him. He could take classes all winter semester and switch his commitment on signing day as long as he hasn't been receiving $$ from the athletic department or practiced with team in any way.
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http://mgoblog.com/content/will-campbell-student-directory#comment-47889
 
#25
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So who is Tennessee going after that will get as an EE? It's hard to follow who exactly is sold on Tennessee.

I know of Bray and that's it. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
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