Empathy, tolerance and respect

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so, the contention is that the rise of the right has lead to the death of culture?
 
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MG1968 said:
so, the contention is that the rise of the right has lead to the death of culture?
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that's not remotely new. A basic premise of the liberal elite is that evangelism means stupid combined with lack of culture. Who the hell wants to spend time with someone who can't name 87 wines and 78 cheeses.
 
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there are 78 cheeses? wow, I better listen to NPR while I'm at work tonight. I'd hate to miss out on all that culture by listening to football, Nascar or the Fox News Channel.
 
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MG1968 said:
is he a friend of yours?
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J. Peder Zane?

No - he's a writer and reporter for the N&O.

He cares about petty things like reading.

My friends care about more important things, like flag pins.
 
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what makes you think I don't read, appreciate fine art, or listen to classical music? Is it because I don't read Kant, hate modernism, and think John Cage is a moron?

It is possible to be a conservative/libertarian with a sense of culture, it may not be the brie and chardonnay crowd that you hang out with at the local free trade coffee club, but I'm not a neanderthal either.
 
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MG1968 said:
what makes you think I don't read, appreciate fine art, or listen to classical music? Is it because I don't read Kant, hate modernism, and think John Cage is a moron?

It is possible to be a conservative/libertarian with a sense of culture, it may not be the brie and chardonnay crowd that you hang out with at the local free trade coffee club, but I'm not a neanderthal either.
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then why are you contributing to a mocking of the article? Do you not think these things are important?
 
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Not to get too personal, but I bet that I would be quite a fly in the ointment to the guy that wrote this article.
I am conservative and made a living (10 years ago) studying culture in Europe and the USA (I have gone on to more important things over the last 8 years).
There is more to being conservative than just being a churchgoer (which I am not). That is one of the prejudiced opinions liberals have of anyone that sees the world in the conservative perspective.
 
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gasguy98 said:
Not to get too personal, but I bet that I would be quite a fly in the ointment to the guy that wrote this article.
I am conservative and made a living (10 years ago) studying culture in Europe and the USA (I have gone on to more important things over the last 8 years).
There is more to being conservative than just being a churchgoer (which I am not). That is one of the prejudiced opinions liberals have of anyone that sees the world in the conservative perspective.
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And one of the prejudiced perceptions of conservatives is that liberals have no faith or spirituality it cuts both ways.
 
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Put another way, around the same time that we started to have complex philosophic debates over bedrock social issues, we loosened our ties to the best tools human beings have created to help us think more clearly and feel more deeply.
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Not another marijuana-legalization article....geez....:p

On a more serious note...I agree with what the author says here....

As our public forums devolve into vast echo chambers, we tune in voices that confirm our beliefs, dismissing and demonizing those that might push us to think harder and feel more deeply.
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It seems that when one visits a "site" of the opposing side, more times than not it is just in search of ammunition...and the comments on the articles/blogs are so completely aggressive...and very rarely "I see where you are coming from on this, but I've always thought this...what is that fundamentally makes you believe this...."

I guess that the lines below represent something very appealing...but something that requires you to truly understand why you believe what you believe - something that I'm still working on when it comes to a bunch of issues.

While bolstering our sense of moral superiority, this approach injures us and our country. As the great American pragmatist William James observed a century ago, vigilant skepticism is the true path to deep conviction. The way to be sure of our beliefs is by constantly testing them against the strongest counterarguments.

Best of all, this process is a cerebral two-fer: It allows us to feel even more confident about our positions while helping us generate greater respect for thoughtful people who reach different conclusions.
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TennNC said:
then why are you contributing to a mocking of the article? Do you not think these things are important?
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I mock the article because it's the author's assertion that the rise of the right has lead to a decrease in culture, which is absolute BS.
 
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MG1968 said:
I mock the article because it's the author's assertion that the rise of the right has lead to a decrease in culture, which is absolute BS.
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I completely agree....there is no way that the rise of the right has led to the decrease in culture. In fact, it's quite obvious that it is the decrease in culture that has led to the rise of the right.


.....:)
 
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I think the article has missed on a couple of points. The "classical arts" have simply been replaced by newer forms of art that appeal to the younger generations and simply carry over as these generations get older. It has very little to do with the right and much more to do with the various forms of media that were either made available or have become popular since the 70's, blaming it on conservatives or liberals is naive to say the least.
 
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