ESPN preseason rankings

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ZippyMorocco said:
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How the eff do you rate Florida at all? I mean they could turn out decent, and end up in the top 25, but they dont deserve to start there.

I wish we were ranked lower just because I always prefer to earn it, and we dont see to do well when ranked highly.
 
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LouderVol said:
How the eff do you rate Florida at all? I mean they could turn out decent, and end up in the top 25, but they dont deserve to start there.

I wish we were ranked lower just because I always prefer to earn it, and we dont see to do well when ranked highly.
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Correct on both counts. Neither UF nor UT has enough proven commodities at key positions to place them as high as both are placed.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Georgia and penn state are bush wack disney talking points.
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I actually agree about Ped State.

ESPN loves them because they only lost to two really good teams, and play in the Big 10. They lost to those two teams by a combined 37 points. And those were the only two good teams they played during the season. And they only beat Utah after Utahs starting qb went out.
 
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the hook to pay for ESPN+ but does give us something to talk about for a bit
 
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lawgator1 said:
Correct on both counts. Neither UF nor UT has enough proven commodities at key positions to place them as high as both are placed.
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Perhaps but you can make a case for UT in the top ten. Major contributors returning to a team that soundly beat the ACC champs.
 
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LouderVol said:
How the eff do you rate Florida at all? I mean they could turn out decent, and end up in the top 25, but they dont deserve to start there.
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If I understand it correctly, SP+ rankings are based on Bill Connelly's formula that includes values for previous recruiting, returning production, records from several preceding seasons, and maybe others. It's not really a top 25 prediction like the poll rankings. He plugs in the data and this was the output. It has more value as a marketing tool for ESPN than as a prognostic indicator, IMO.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
If I understand it correctly, SP+ rankings are based on Bill Connelly's formula that includes values for previous recruiting, returning production, records from several preceding seasons, and maybe others. It's not really a top 25 prediction like the poll rankings. He plugs in the data and this was the output. It has more value as a marketing tool for ESPN than as a prognostic indicator, IMO.
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It's probably me just splitting hairs but I would say that's more a "rating" than a ranking.

You have a good point though and maybe I was just reading into it too much. It just seems a strange thing to me to do that type of a "rating" but not have it tied to a prediction or expected Performance.

I mean I guess it's a true "this is what they SHOULD be", and not "this is what I think they will do". I think Bamawriter has done a good job showing the flaws of just riding a formula.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Just a quick reminder that preseason rankings aren't that useful for predicting the season. Sure, the usual suspects will be near the top and end near the top but anything below 7 or 8 is a BS guess.

ESPN unveils SP+ preseason projections for 2022 college football season
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Yikes, 7 or their teams didnt end up ranked. Several more were off by a goodly margin. They generally overestimated their top 25 teams, by an AVERAGE of 11 spots. That's mostly due to a number of them dropping off the face of the earth. TAMU, miami, Cincinnati, BYU, Auburn, kentucky, NC state, all dropped more than 20 spots. You had a couple more in the high teens.
 
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LouderVol said:
Yikes, 7 or their teams didnt end up ranked. Several more were off by a goodly margin. They generally overestimated their top 25 teams, by an AVERAGE of 11 spots. That's mostly due to a number of them dropping off the face of the earth. TAMU, miami, Cincinnati, BYU, Auburn, kentucky, NC state, all dropped more than 20 spots. You had a couple more in the high teens.
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That's the reason they call it the off season. Anyone who thinks they can make predictions about the season right now is off.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
They brought in a really good QB transfer from NC St. But A'M at #17 is ridiculous. Also we all know Texas will not finish in the top 10.
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Texas A&M may be overrated, but it's not so unrealistic as to be ridiculous IMO. They lost multiple close games in 22 and return a lot of production and talent. Improved QB play could put them in the top 25. Gonna be interesting to watch the return of Petrino to the SEC.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
Texas A&M may be overrated, but it's not so unrealistic as to be ridiculous IMO. They lost multiple close games in 22 and return a lot of production and talent. Improved QB play could put them in the top 25. Gonna be interesting to watch the return of Petrino to the SEC.
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And they play us next year. That guarantees they will end up being pretty good.
 
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