Ethinic cleansing in Kosovo, (those nasty Serbians.)

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Year.... Albanians.... Serbs..... Others
1948 ......48.5 % ....47.5 % ........8 %
1953 ......45.0 % ....47.4 % ........8 %
1961 ......47.1 % ....47.4 % ........8 %
1971 ......63.7 % ....30.9 % ........8 %
1981 ......67.4 % ....24.9 % ........9 %
1991 ......71.6 % ....20.9 % ........5 %
2000/2003. 88.0 % .....7.0 % ........5 %
2007 ..... 92.0 % .....5.3 % ........2.7%
 
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What's yours???

Would you care to discuss Balkan history??

Are you acquainted with Major Lees book; "The Rape of Serbia?"

What's the fastest growing ethnic group in Europe? Where do almost all of them make their home? Perhaps you can find it, then copy and paste it for me.

I just asked a question, which you still haven't answered. Are you attempting to paint the Albanians as some sort of genocidal society?
 
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What's the fastest growing ethnic group in Europe? Where do almost all of them make their home? Perhaps you can find it, then copy and paste it for me.

I just asked a question, which you still haven't answered. Are you attempting to paint the Albanians as some sort of genocidal society?

Are you in the market for a painted Albanian??

Any color preference?
 
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Corvette red. Do they come with ground effects?

Think you're going to get that for free???

Pay up!!


















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aren't the serbs killing the muslims? or are they the same religions. isn't they why we bombed them in the 90's because they were killing muslims? did we ever find those mass graves that people claim to be there?
 
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aren't the serbs killing the muslims? or are they the same religions. isn't they why we bombed them in the 90's because they were killing muslims? did we ever find those mass graves that people claim to be there?

Yes, mass graves were found.
 
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aren't the serbs killing the muslims? or are they the same religions. isn't they why we bombed them in the 90's because they were killing muslims? did we ever find those mass graves that people claim to be there?

We should start with happened in Croatia with the genocide of about 20,000 Serbs and ridding traditionally Serbian territory (for about 500 years) of around 200,000 Serbians driven out of the region in order that a Croatian government with heavy ties to WWII era Nazi fascists could expand the borders of their newly declared independent state.

The Serbians are traditionally Eastern Orthodox Christians for the most part. Croatians are traditionally Roman Catholic for the most part.

Yes, mass graves were found.

I beg your freaking pardon!!!!!

Where, what is your source???

That is purely propaganda.
 
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Dude, it was in the report from the State Department.

Dude, do you refer to the US State Department???

If so, then it shouldn't be a problem for you to link that reputed report.

Methinks you have no idea what you are talking about.

In the light of all the above, the latest statement by the US State Department’s Daniel Fried, barked from the KLA-cutthroats’ stronghold — Pristina — that “Serbia’s path to closer ties with the rest of Europe remains open”, and apparently, solely dependent on Serbia’s willingness to give up 15 percent of its territory, is nothing less than sadistic.


In 1999, Wimmer famously said, “Never before so few lied so thoroughly to so many, as in connection with the Kosovo war.”

And if we repeat the lie loudly and often enough, we arrive at today.

Anyone genuinely interested in real current events in the Balkans might read this blog.

The alleged massacres were used by U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Western leaders as justification for their bombing campaign and intervention in Kosovo, and were regularly and routinely reported as fact on television networks such as the CBC and CNN, as the West backed the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) against the Serbs.

"This was a massacre that never happened,"

The biggest mass grave we examined contained about 20 and there was another one of 11.

Sgt. Honeybourn, a veteran of more than 30 years of police work, was a member of the first Canadian forensic specialist team that joined units from several western countries in the search for the alleged 200,000 buried victims.

(What we obviously have here is not mass genocide but mass deception, plain and simple, for anyone who is willing to examine the actual facts rather than cling to the facts he has been brainwashed into believing.)gs
 
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Yes, mass graves were found.

It's hard to blame almost any American for having a completely false picture of what happened during the breakup of the politically created country of Yugoslavia, after all hasn't everything you've heard or read from such sources as the NY and LA Times, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, USA Today, US State Dept, the POTUS and most any other source all said basically the same thing???

I believe a report from the Republican National Committee is about the only source refuting the propaganda that we, as American citizens were supposed to believe.

Update, now that the dust has settled:

The creation of Kosovo is the logical progression of jihad since it began in 620 AD.

Macedonia is next on the chopping block followed by parts of southern Montenegro and northern Greece.

There is nothing new in what’s happening; anyone with the slightest knowledge of world history can see all of Europe and indeed western civilization is in peril.

Press Reports On False Claims Of Genocide By Serbs In Kosovo


(The New York Times fired it's top journalist in Yugoslavia who had been their main contributor for 30 years because he wouldn't report what the Times wanted to present at news of current events from the Balkans.)gs

"A United Nations court has ruled that Serbian troops did not carry out genocide against ethnic Albanians during Slobodan Milosevic's campaign of aggression in Kosovo from 1998 to 1999... The court, which is comprised of two international judges and one Albanian, was ruling on the case of a Serb, Miroslav Vuckovic, convicted of genocide by a district court in Mitrovica". BBC Sept. 7, 2001
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"Castigating the press for 'journalistic crimes' committed during its reporting on the Balkans wars of the 1990s, retired New York Times reporter David Binder claims the 1993 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting awarded to both the Times and New York's Newsday 'should, in all fairness and honesty, be revoked.' Binder was speaking at a press conference for the release of a new book criticizing the war reporting.

Binder wrote the foreword to the book by Peter Brock, titled 'Media Cleansing: Dirty Reporting, Journalism and Tragedy in Yugoslavia.'

(The huge irony that Brock reveals so clearly is that the media co-belligerents, pushing relentlessly for more aggressive action, supposedly in the interests of stopping ethnic cleansing and killing, played into the hands of parties with a political agenda that assured and produced far more ethnic cleansing and killing than might have taken place without their bellicosity and war propaganda service.

This important and valuable book complements perfectly the superb volumes on Yugoslavia by Diana Johnstone (Fools’ Crusade) and Michael Mandel (How America Gets Away With Murder). Johnstone provides essential history and context to the Balkan wars, analyzing the indigenous participants, their backgrounds, motivations and strategies, and the very important role played there by external interveners (the Croatian and Bosnian Muslim diaspora and PR firms, Austria, Germany, the United States, and the UN and Yugoslavia Tribunal [ICTY]).
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'What we're looking at here is a series catalogued by Peter Brock of journalistic crimes,' said Binder..... During his recent appearance at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Binder said it would take 'at least a decade' before historians 'clear out that wretched underbrush of lies and concoctions' from 'despicable' politicians 'like Richard Holbrooke,' an international negotiator during the administration of former President Bill Clinton and 'certainly the journalists' criticized in Brock's book. The rise of blogs and media watchdog groups offers a 'corrective' for the public now, Binder contended."
Former NY Times Reporter: '93 Pulitzer Should Be Revoked

CNS News March 22, 2006
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(Anyone notice Holbrooke is going to be placed in a very high position by the new POTUS, well I did.)gs
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“Some media reports have quoted a senior Belgrade official as stating that there are 198 mass graves in Kosovo. The Office on Missing Persons and Forensics (OMPF) would like to categorically state that no evidence has been provided to OMPF regarding existence of any mass graves in Kosovo. Such unfounded statements reflect a lack of sensitivity to an issue that is extremely emotive and causes considerable anguish for all affected families.”

UNMIK Disputes Belgrade Report on Mass Graves
United Nations Mission In Kosovo (UNMIK) Press Release, 23 January 2004
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No Mass Graves Were Discovered In Kosovo Until 2005
The Graves Discovered Were Of Serbian Dead
Whilst Albanian Bodies Had Been Disposed Of In Serbia

Why Did NATO Take Sides In This European Civil War
When There Were Atrocities On Both Sides And No Evidence Of Genocide?
Oil and US Geopolitical Objectives in the Balkans -

"...About 3,000 people are still missing from the 1998-99 conflict. Most are ethnic Albanians but some 500 Serbs are also missing, believed to have been killed by the rebels. Two mass graves with the bodies of Serb civilians were unearthed in Kosovo earlier this month."
Serbia to return Kosovo corpses found in mass grave
Reuters, 26 May 2005
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There are several more, read them all.

To finish up:

"The UN's highest court has cleared Serbia of direct responsibility for genocide during the 1990s Bosnian war. But the International Court of Justice did rule that Belgrade had violated international law by failing to prevent the 1995 massacre at Srebrenica..

BBC, Feb. 26, 2007

Now about the so-called massacre at Srebenica;

Supposedly 8,000 mujahdeen were killed there.

Where are the bodies??? They were not found.

Why that conflict at Srebenica? The Serb army advanced on Srebenica because a coalition of 'freedom fighters', ie; Muslim Jihadist from all over the world were ridding the area of Serbians, brutally slaying and mutilating Serbians who had not previously been converted by the sword to Islam.

Witnesses saw the Mujhadeen force retreat from Srebenica the night before the Serbs arrived and many of those listed as killed have voted in Bosnian elections
since then.

So the most reliable Serbian massacre of Muslims (and these were men under arms, not unarmed civilians such as the Serbian civilians slaughtered in the most brutal of manners earlier in Croatia, in Bosnia and in Kosovo which was Serbian territory,) was yet another hoax.
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Finally just one more:

"America's most widely-read newspaper today revealed painful details of a seven-month probe into its star war reporter that led to his resignation for lying to his editors. The USA Today journalist Jack Kelley, who enjoyed a stellar career in which he hopped from war zone to war zone, came under suspicion after a fellow member of staff accused him in an anonymous letter of inventing reports....

The paper said they could not have confidence in any of his work after discovering that he had tried to fool their probe into one of his stories, a 1999 front-page story on Serbian war crimes in Kosovo.

The investigators telephoned his supposed translator in Serbia as a witness to prove that he had not invented the story. But when they analysed recordings of their conversations they discovered the translator was not who she claimed. The investigation found Mr Kelley had allowed another woman to impersonate the witness and gave him two days to resign.

Karen Jurgensen, USA Today Editor, accused her former employee of engaging in an 'elaborate deception' during the investigation.... His editors caught him out by calling the impersonator back and hiring private investigators to conduct expert voice analysis of the conversation that proved she was not the original translator.

A fellow reporter, Mark Memmott, was despatched to Belgrade in a vain attempt to track down the translator. Mr Kelley was therefore unable to prove that he had seen a Yugoslav army notebook containing a direct order to 'cleanse' a village of its ethnic Albanian residents during an encounter with a human rights activist.
USA Today says star reporter deceived paper
London Times, 13 January 2004
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Now another question for you, how many Serbian civilians were killed by Clinton's bombing campaign that not only violated the US Constitution but just about every international law one could imagine??
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According to a suppressed Air Force report obtained by NEWSWEEK, the number of targets verifiably destroyed was a tiny fraction of those claimed: 14 tanks, not 120;
18 armored personnel carriers, not 220; 20 artillery pieces, not 450.

Out of the 744 "confirmed" strikes by NATO pilots during the war, the Air Force investigators, who spent weeks combing Kosovo by helicopter and by foot, found evidence of just 58.

The damage report has been buried by top military officers and Pentagon officials, who in interviews with NEWSWEEK over the last three weeks were still glossing over or denying its significance. Why the evasions and dissembling, with the disturbing echoes of the inflated "body counts" of the Vietnam War?

All during the Balkan war, Gen. Wesley Clark, the top NATO commander, was under pressure from Washington to produce positive bombing results from politicians who were desperate not to commit ground troops to combat.

The Air Force protested that tanks are hard to hit from 15,000 feet, but Clark insisted. Now that the war is long over, neither the generals nor their civilian masters are eager to delve into what really happened. Asked how many Serb tanks and other vehicles were destroyed in Kosovo, General Clark will only answer, "Enough."

The average Serbian citizen of Yugoslavia, in answer to the cluster bombing of Christian churces on Easter Sunday morning, was to wearT-shirts with silkscreened targets on them. NATO was far more effective against defenseless civilians than military targets init's 78 day relentless bombing attack, killing far more Christian Serbians than Serbian military had killed Muslim al-Qaeda trained Jihadists who were attacking police stations and ordinary citizens in Kosovo.

Clark's extensive use of cluster bombs and his targeting of hospitals and other health care facilities, including old age homes and maternity wards, is well documented.
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A first hand account by a witness in Yugoslavia. May 15, 2006.

As part of a U.S. military planning staff, I (amongst other educated U.S. military officers) attempted to warn the amazingly insane and emotionally unstable Gen Wesley Clark that his intentions would lead only to the following:

1) We would facilitate the establishment of a Muslim state in Kosovo.

2) This would be the second Muslim state to established in the heart of Europe, following Bosnia, in just three years. What might the consequences be?

3) This would grow into a very painful experience for Europe and the U.S. 10-20 years down the road.

4) We would enforce Serbia's perception that they are the bastard stepchild of Western Civilization.

Clark fired over twenty of his top intelligence analysts for briefing these views to him. He persisted with his fantasy that the Kosovar Albanians were as pure and clean as the wind-driven snow; innocent victims of a simple Serbian compulsion for evil. Yeah, right!

Clark was clueless and a madman. Behind closed doors, the overwhelming majority of officers on the EUCOM planning team thought he was INSANE.

However, after he fired the first several, everyone got the picture. Cook the intel to make the Kosovars look like angels and the Serbs like demons.

Clark had a demented and paranoid beef with Milo because the Serbian President showed the American General no deferrence whatsoever during Dayton negotiations with Ambassador Holbrooke, for whom Clark was a bag carrier/military aide.

I was also in Bosnia for seven months as a human intelligence officer; the most civilized persons I met with overall, were Serbs. The most frightening, Muslims. The place was crawling with mujahideen. Dirty pajamas, long beards, AK's, the works. I know.

I visited a Catholic Church in a (former) Half-Croat/Half Muslim town,Gornji Vakuf. The church had been razed, burned, and the alter lined with 110 young Croats who were summarily executed, along with the Parish Priest.

On the rectory was spray painted the words, "There is no more time for you here." In other parts of the town, many walls and buildings were spraypainted with the words, "Mismo Hamas," which is Serbo-Croat for, "I am Hamas." I did see a noticeable amount of "Ustace" (nazi) "U's" spray painted in other towns, too.

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" The media role in this hysterical propaganda barrage, with the best of the reports noting that the claims are “unconfirmed” (!), was a scandal, reflecting a media completely out of control and justifying UN official Aracelly Santana’s comment that “I’ve never seen so much lack of professionalism and ethics in the press.” The UN representatives and British officials dealing with the media in Sarajevo looked upon the pack with contempt as a destructive force, some of them even calling its members “the reptiles.”
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An interesting footnote was from one of the most credible sources throughout this horrible period, the harvesting and marketing of human organs by the KLA from captured Serbians.

Meanwhile our future Vice President of the United States owes a great deal of his political prominence to assistance from the KLA, seeing that he was one of the first of many prominent American politicians to collaborate with those reptiles.

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Bin Laden provided seven hundred million dollars to establish the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). The purpose of the KLA was to drive Christian Serbs from Kosovo, to topple the government of Milosevic, to undermine the peace initiatives of Ibrahim Rugova, and to unite the Muslims of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Albania into the Islamic Republic of Greater Albania.
 

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