Evan Bayh fed up with the system or senses danger of being incumbent???

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Both. Did I hear correctly that he said if he started a business and hired one person that would be more jobs created than Congress did in the last 6 months?

If so - ouch!
 
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He wasn't in danger. This is about the money. He'll make a ton as a lobbyist.
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Ozbama faces mid-term humiliation.

There was speculation on Tuesday that the next to join an exodus ahead of the November elections could be Blanche Lincoln, who represents the conservative southern state of Arkansas and is behind every putative Republican challenger in opinon polls.

The Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, is meanwhile trailing all his potential Republican opponents in his state of Nevada, and even Mr Obama's old Senate seat in Illinois is expected to be close run.

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The emerging consensus in Washington is now that the Democrats have only a 50-50 chance of keeping control of the Senate, where they currently hold 59 out of the 100 seats, in what would be a stunning reversal of fortune after the party's clean sweep in 2008.

It has already lost the 60-strong majority that automatically overrode procedural blocks, after little known Republican Scott Brown last month captured a Massachusetts seat held by the late Edward Kennedy for 47 years.

Other Democrats are expected to withdraw from fray before deadlines fall for standing in the midterms, when 33 Senate seats and all 435 House of Representative seats will be contested.

The ruling party's vulnerability was further underlined on Tuesday when Frank Lautenberg, the 86-year-old senator for New Jersey, collapsed at his home and was hospitalised for the treatment of an ulcer.News of his collapse served as a reminder of the frail health of other senators, such as Robert Byrd, at 92 the oldest and longest serving member of the Senate, and Arlen Specter, an 80-year-old cancer and brain tumour survivor who faces a gruelling re-election battle in Pennsylvania.
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A recent poll found that 52 % of those polled said Barry doesn't deserve reelection!

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There sure is something different about President Barry.

Meanwhile Michelle is living large.
 
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volinbham said:
Both. Did I hear correctly that he said if he started a business and hired one person that would be more jobs created than Congress did in the last 6 months?

If so - ouch!
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Yes he did say that. I can't believe he took that kind if shot at Barry.
 
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MG1968 said:
Project Vote Smart - Senator Evan Bayh - Interest Group Ratings

going through his ratings, I'm left wondering exactly how "moderate" Bayh actually is. Looks to me as if he paid lip-service to right of center issues, but over all was a reliable left-of-center vote.
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I don't believe there is any such thing as a moderate democrat in D.C. Maybe on local levels but not in Washington. At the end of the day all dems are at the mercy of the far left.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I don't believe there is any such thing as a moderate democrat in D.C. Maybe on local levels but not in Washington. At the end of the day all dems are at the mercy of the far left.
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you say some really ridiculous stuff, this being a good example.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you say some really ridiculous stuff, this being a good example.
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Then color me ridiculous also, I believe exactly the same and will never vote for another democrat and that's not to say that there aren't a lot of rinos out there. :hi:
 
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volinbham said:
Both. Did I hear correctly that he said if he started a business and hired one person that would be more jobs created than Congress did in the last 6 months?

If so - ouch!
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One year ago today, President Barack Obama signed into law the first major legislation of his presidency, the Congressional Democrats' so-called "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act." The Obama Democrats made many bold claims about what this $862 billion bill would do for America's ailing economy.

Let's see how their promises measure up to reality.


Obama Promised Unemployment Would Not Rise Above 8 Percent With $862 Billion Stimulus. (Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, "The Job Impact Of The American Recovery And Reinvestment Plan," 1/9/09)

REALITY: Unemployment Currently At 10 Percent. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Promised His Stimulus Would Create 3.5 Million Jobs By End Of 2010. (President Barack Obama, Remarks At The Signing Of The American Recovery And Reinvestment Act, Denver, CO, 2/17/09)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed Stimulus Last February, America Has Lost 2.8 Million Jobs. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Biden Promised Stimulus Would Create Construction Jobs. "Road projects, energy projects and construction projects are being started as soon as they pass review, contracts are competitively bid and reporting systems are in place." (Joe Biden, "What You Might Not Know About The Recovery," The New York Times, 7/26/09)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 712,000 Construction Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Claims Stimulus Created Manufacturing Jobs. "That's right -- the Recovery Act, also known as the stimulus bill. Economists on the left and the right say this bill has helped save jobs and avert disaster. But you don't have to take their word for it -- Talk to the window manufacturer in Philadelphia who said he used to be skeptical about the Recovery Act, until he had to add two more work shifts just because of the business it created." (President Barack Obama, Remarks In State Of The Union Address, Washington, DC, 1/27/10)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 847,000 Manufacturing Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Claims Stimulus Created Teaching Jobs. "Because of the steps we took, there are about two million Americans working right now who would otherwise be unemployed -- 300,000 are teachers and other education workers." (President Barack Obama, Remarks In State Of The Union Address, Washington, DC, 1/27/10)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 55,000 Education Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Promised Recovery Act "Will Create Good Jobs That Pay Well And Can't Be Shipped Overseas." (The White House, "Remarks By The President And The Vice President On The American Recovery And Reinvestment Act," 4/13/09)

REALITY: Recently Distributed Stimulus Funds Going To Foreign Corporations Creating Jobs Overseas. "Nearly half of the $2.4 billion in federal grant money awarded Wednesday to stimulate the U.S. economy and boost the production of hybrid and electric vehicles went to six companies with ties to places as far away as Russia, China, South Korea and France. ... But because so few American companies have the necessary technology, much of the money will initially go toward manufacturing electric vehicle batteries overseas." (Jerry Seper, "Obama Sends Stimulus Aid To Foreign Firms," The Washington Times, 8/6/09)

Obama Promised Stimulus Would Have "Responsibility and Accountability." "'What I will need from [U.S. Mayors] is unprecedented responsibility and accountability on all of our parts,' Obama said. 'The American people are watching.'" (Michael D. Shear, "Obama To Watch Cities' Stimulus Spending," The Washington Post, 2/21/09)

REALITY: GAO Says Transparency, Oversight Lacking When Keeping Track of Stimulus' Effectiveness. "The Government Accountability Office said in a report that increased transparency and better oversight is needed to track stimulus money being sent to state and local governments. -- 'Questions remained about how to count jobs and measure performance under Recovery Act-funded programs,' the report said." (Rich Edson and Joanna Ossinger, "GAO: More Transparency Needed To Track Stimulus Money," Fox Business, 7/7/09)

Barack Obama and his big-spending Democrat allies in the U.S. Congress, led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, have proven, their claims notwithstanding, that their kind of "Stimulus" will only run America's economy into the ground.

And this massive transfer of wealth to the Democrats' public sector union allies in local and state governments was just the beginning of Obamanomics -- soak the private sector to feed the never-ending growth of government.

In fact, as the Obama Democrats moved on from their bloated "Stimulus" Bill to take over the American auto industry, implement Cap-and-Trade energy taxes, and socialize private health care, they made it obvious to everyone not on their gravy train that they care not a whit for the millions of unemployed who simply want a chance to earn an honest living in the free marketplace.

Americans know that the Obama Democrats have no intention of doing what will really create new jobs -- reducing the punishing tax rates on American small business and investors to spur job growth and vitalize our economy.

Sorry, Democrats, but the American people have had enough of your "Stimulus."
 
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Don't use PVS as a gauge of true partisanship. They, like other groups, pick a handful of bills and rate people on them. There are a lot of other factors to consider rather than just a group of 10 bills.

Bayh was levelheaded and had no problems working with the other side. Some party loyalists consider these types traitors - see John McCain as an example. So it is a tossup as to what his true 'label' is.

I really think he's fed up with the system. He was raised in it and there's always been pressure for him to live up to his father's standard. He like many hoped Obama would be a JFK type and discovered this was not the case. To him, it is just not worth it anymore. He'll be a power broker behind the scenes but he's burnt out living in daddy's shoes and hoping for the reincarnation of JFK.
 
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gsvol said:
One year ago today, President Barack Obama signed into law the first major legislation of his presidency, the Congressional Democrats' so-called "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act." The Obama Democrats made many bold claims about what this $862 billion bill would do for America's ailing economy.

Let's see how their promises measure up to reality.


Obama Promised Unemployment Would Not Rise Above 8 Percent With $862 Billion Stimulus. (Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, "The Job Impact Of The American Recovery And Reinvestment Plan," 1/9/09)

REALITY: Unemployment Currently At 10 Percent. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Promised His Stimulus Would Create 3.5 Million Jobs By End Of 2010. (President Barack Obama, Remarks At The Signing Of The American Recovery And Reinvestment Act, Denver, CO, 2/17/09)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed Stimulus Last February, America Has Lost 2.8 Million Jobs. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Biden Promised Stimulus Would Create Construction Jobs. "Road projects, energy projects and construction projects are being started as soon as they pass review, contracts are competitively bid and reporting systems are in place." (Joe Biden, "What You Might Not Know About The Recovery," The New York Times, 7/26/09)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 712,000 Construction Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Claims Stimulus Created Manufacturing Jobs. "That's right -- the Recovery Act, also known as the stimulus bill. Economists on the left and the right say this bill has helped save jobs and avert disaster. But you don't have to take their word for it -- Talk to the window manufacturer in Philadelphia who said he used to be skeptical about the Recovery Act, until he had to add two more work shifts just because of the business it created." (President Barack Obama, Remarks In State Of The Union Address, Washington, DC, 1/27/10)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 847,000 Manufacturing Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Claims Stimulus Created Teaching Jobs. "Because of the steps we took, there are about two million Americans working right now who would otherwise be unemployed -- 300,000 are teachers and other education workers." (President Barack Obama, Remarks In State Of The Union Address, Washington, DC, 1/27/10)

REALITY: Since Obama Signed The Stimulus Last February, 55,000 Education Jobs Have Been Lost. (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Accessed 2/4/10)

Obama Promised Recovery Act "Will Create Good Jobs That Pay Well And Can't Be Shipped Overseas." (The White House, "Remarks By The President And The Vice President On The American Recovery And Reinvestment Act," 4/13/09)

REALITY: Recently Distributed Stimulus Funds Going To Foreign Corporations Creating Jobs Overseas. "Nearly half of the $2.4 billion in federal grant money awarded Wednesday to stimulate the U.S. economy and boost the production of hybrid and electric vehicles went to six companies with ties to places as far away as Russia, China, South Korea and France. ... But because so few American companies have the necessary technology, much of the money will initially go toward manufacturing electric vehicle batteries overseas." (Jerry Seper, "Obama Sends Stimulus Aid To Foreign Firms," The Washington Times, 8/6/09)

Obama Promised Stimulus Would Have "Responsibility and Accountability." "'What I will need from [U.S. Mayors] is unprecedented responsibility and accountability on all of our parts,' Obama said. 'The American people are watching.'" (Michael D. Shear, "Obama To Watch Cities' Stimulus Spending," The Washington Post, 2/21/09)

REALITY: GAO Says Transparency, Oversight Lacking When Keeping Track of Stimulus' Effectiveness. "The Government Accountability Office said in a report that increased transparency and better oversight is needed to track stimulus money being sent to state and local governments. -- 'Questions remained about how to count jobs and measure performance under Recovery Act-funded programs,' the report said." (Rich Edson and Joanna Ossinger, "GAO: More Transparency Needed To Track Stimulus Money," Fox Business, 7/7/09)

Barack Obama and his big-spending Democrat allies in the U.S. Congress, led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, have proven, their claims notwithstanding, that their kind of "Stimulus" will only run America's economy into the ground.

And this massive transfer of wealth to the Democrats' public sector union allies in local and state governments was just the beginning of Obamanomics -- soak the private sector to feed the never-ending growth of government.

In fact, as the Obama Democrats moved on from their bloated "Stimulus" Bill to take over the American auto industry, implement Cap-and-Trade energy taxes, and socialize private health care, they made it obvious to everyone not on their gravy train that they care not a whit for the millions of unemployed who simply want a chance to earn an honest living in the free marketplace.

Americans know that the Obama Democrats have no intention of doing what will really create new jobs -- reducing the punishing tax rates on American small business and investors to spur job growth and vitalize our economy.

Sorry, Democrats, but the American people have had enough of your "Stimulus."
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Not really, the original stimulus wasn't large enough.
 
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MG1968 said:
sure it was, it's just that too much of it was spent in Obama's imaginary 51st through 57th states.
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Exactly...... about as good as his stupid "extend lines of credit" garbage he spews. Yeah, lets all borrow money we don't even have to begin with, that will fix it.
 
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droski said:
just throw money at the problem. that's always been a good solution historically.
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A fine example is Spain, the current socialist government there has an unemployment rate of 19% and has accrued debt it cannot pay, it doesn't take socialists long to ruin economies.

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"Our work is far from over but we have rescued this economy from the worst of this crisis." Teleprompter-in-chief.

Expect more stagflation in America as long as Obozo is in the White House and Demosocialists control congress.

The trouble with kenesians is this, they are lying through their teeth from the word go, what they are saying is that through their system everyone is taken care of and no one suffers, what they are doing though is to indebt the world to themselves and in the end mankind is their slave, toiling forever to pay back interest on the money borrowed in the past.

The worst part is when they tighten credit, colapsing national economies and then they increase their ownership of real property, disenfranchising many into abject poverty.

Bottom line is that they hate and feel threatened by the middle class and seek to draw a line that is as deep and wide as the grand canyon between the haves and the have nots, all the while saying just the opposite.

BTW, Michelle has filled the White House library with books praising socialism.
 
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615 Vol said:
They might not be so bad if the unions didn't destroy the public school system.
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be careful, or the resident union agitators will come to your home and break your kneecaps while the Keynesians pick your pockets.
 
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MG1968 said:
be careful, or the resident union agitators will come to your home and break your kneecaps while the Keynesians pick your pockets.
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I watched Stossel the other night regarding the public school system vs. charter schools. The charter schools perform much better at a lower cost to tax payers. Stossel showed how the government keeps throwing more money at public schools while the results don't get any better. He had a union rep on from D.C. that tried to argue how public schools are better than charter schools which was B.S. and Stossel pointed out all the reasons why the union should get a lot of blame for public schools. The union won't let their teachers stay past 3:15 in D.C. so a kid is out of luck if he needs tutoring. They tenure teachers in California after only 2 years.

It's amazing how much power they have in Washington to allow this to happen. I can't believe I supported Obama, I feel like I've escaped from a cult.
 
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