Evolution, Natural Selection and Government Policies

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volinbham

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Was reading a story about Coke and their save the polar program and this idea came up.

Why do we have so many programs aimed at disrupting natural selection, thinning the herd and ultimately evolution? Are we really screwing ourselves under the illusion that we can stop these natural processes?

Discuss amongst yourselves.
 
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Point of clarification: Are you referring only to programs that seek to preserve the environment and specifically certain animal populations, or are you referring to government programs that seek to keep safe certain portions of the human race?
 
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The extinction caused by human overpopulation, pollution, etc. are not evolutionary processes or natural processes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Point of clarification: Are you referring only to programs that seek to preserve the environment and specifically certain animal populations, or are you referring to government programs that seek to keep safe certain portions of the human race?
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Ultimately all of them. I'm not taking a position though. Just thought it was interesting how much effort we spend to suspend these natural forces.
 
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The real myth is that we can stop these processes and preserve the world as it is - I think this myth undergirds quite a bit of environmental efforts. There's a good book about it but I can't recall the title.
 
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Can we stop saving idiot humans first? Like, take all the "Do not use in shower." warnings off of hair dryers, etc? I think the "protect the stupid" campaign has severely compromised the gene pool.
 
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no way we can't let the humans die.

When animals get overpopulated there are things that take care of them (disease, famine, etc) but of course we think we have it all figured out. Maybe nature is smarter than us
 
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hndog609 said:
Can we stop saving idiot humans first? Like, take all the "Do not use in shower." warnings off of hair dryers, etc? I think the "protect the stupid" campaign has severely compromised the gene pool.
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Lol while this is true, I think those labels are geared more towards kids.
 
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utvolpj said:
no way we can't let the humans die.

When animals get overpopulated there are things that take care of them (disease, famine, etc) but of course we think we have it all figured out. Maybe nature is smarter than us
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Kinda what I'm getting at. Nature ain't gonna quit trying to kill us - especially the weak ones.
 
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The main problem I have with this thread is that its part of the natural evolutionary process that we as a race arrive at a point where we can technologically do these things. Therefore, by definition, there really is no such thing as "interference" since it unfolds before us as it does.
 
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utvolpj said:
no way we can't let the humans die.

When animals get overpopulated there are things that take care of them (disease, famine, etc) but of course we think we have it all figured out. Maybe nature is smarter than us
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We may just find out in 370 days....
 
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VOLatile said:
The extinction caused by human overpopulation, pollution, etc. are not evolutionary processes or natural processes.
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yes it is. as you evolunitionists preach. humans multiplying is part of the evolution system.

look volatile, if you're gonna follow the way evolution should work. human's genes will start causing people to be infertile so evolution will save the planet, in about 200 million years. :dance2:
 
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lawgator1 said:
The main problem I have with this thread is that its part of the natural evolutionary process that we as a race arrive at a point where we can technologically do these things. Therefore, by definition, there really is no such thing as "interference" since it unfolds before us as it does.
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I see what you are getting at but because we have free will we can choose how much we'd like to attempt to stall the process.
 
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VOLatile said:
Not even comparable.

An asteroid crashing into the earth is a natural occurance. Manmade chemicals dumped into waterways is not natural.
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So if bugs infest a particular area and their waste is toxic to existing life that is natural but not when man does it? If the bugs suck the life sustaining resources that is natural but not when man does it?
 
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VOLatile said:
Not even comparable.

An asteroid crashing into the earth is a natural occurance. Manmade chemicals dumped into waterways is not natural.
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animals dying in a water source and poisoning the water is also a natural occurrence. You can argue scale but things would still happen without us
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Lol while this is true, I think those labels are geared more towards kids.
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Some I'm sure but what about being told not to attempt to remove the blade from a running lawn mower or stop a chainsaw chain with your hands? How about being admonished to not use an open flame to check one's fuel level? To not iron clothes while wearing them?

There's probably a whole thread worth of examples actually.
 
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It'd be ironic if somehow Humans saved a species from natural extinction and that species carried a disease that ends up killing us off.
 
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