Excellent short documentary on the recent DC Tea Party

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So somebody goes straight to the loons, produces a "documentary" about a small element of the overall protest and you blanket all the people there as the same, pretty petty and lame if you ask me.
 
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I think its fair to say that there are idiots on both sides, something that people on this forum seem unable to comprehend.

Why debate with someone when its easier to just yell 'LIBERAL!!!' or 'RIGHT WING NUT JOB!!!'. I've even seen a post on this forum where someone said that 'liberals' dont share his values so therefore he will not even be civil towards 'them. People are different, we all have different views and opinions. The sooner this country can get past the hysterical shouting match which passes for debate, the better it will be.
 
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KB5252 said:
So somebody goes straight to the loons, produces a "documentary" about a small element of the overall protest and you blanket all the people there as the same, pretty petty and lame if you ask me.
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I didn't see you make the same argument in retort to the thread about what the signs said, posted by a conservative, quoting someone else with an agenda.

Why not?
 
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KB5252 said:
So somebody goes straight to the loons, produces a "documentary" about a small element of the overall protest and you blanket all the people there as the same, pretty petty and lame if you ask me.
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I know. Could it not then be argued that the reverse is true also? Someone digs up an idiotic quote from someone on the other side, and then decides that all 'liberals' must think that way too? Do you see how that could be the case?
 
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pejp said:
I think its fair to say that there are idiots on both sides, something that people on this forum seem unable to comprehend.

Why debate with someone when its easier to just yell 'LIBERAL!!!' or 'RIGHT WING NUT JOB!!!'. I've even seen a post on this forum where someone said that 'liberals' dont share his values so therefore he will not even be civil towards 'them. People are different, we all have different views and opinions. The sooner this country can get past the hysterical shouting match which passes for debate, the better it will be.
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I agree. Problem is, it is a basic tenet of the current conservative leadership to drown out alternative points of view and to demagogue Democrats and others left of center, using trigger words, like Marxist, Hitler, etc., to label them.

Rather than discuss issues, they use labels. Why? Because it appeals to the lowest common denominator amongst their constituency.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Wow. Well, so much for the argument that its the left that's uninformed.
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The liberal response team.

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lawgator1 said:
I agree. Problem is, it is a basic tenet of the current conservative leadership to drown out alternative points of view and to demagogue Democrats and others left of center, using trigger words, like Marxist, Hitler, etc., to label them.

Rather than discuss issues, they use labels. Why? Because it appeals to the lowest common denominator amongst their constituency.
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Yes, but to be fair I think Democrats are guilty of that as well. I live in NYC, and I always have to bite my lip when someone accuses anyone who doesnt agree with Obama as being ignorant. My gf and her family are from the Midwest, and while its true that I have met some complete idiots who probably couldnt pick out Europe on a map, I've also met many intelligent conservatives. It annoys me that people in this city seem to think that anyone who isnt from coasts is not worth listening to.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
The liberal response team.

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If 'Liberals' hate the US as much as people on here claim, dont you think its unlikely that the guy in the picture with a US flag in the background, a US bandanna, and a sign saying GO USA would be a 'liberal'?
 
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pejp said:
Yes, but to be fair I think Democrats are guilty of that as well. I live in NYC, and I always have to bite my lip when someone accuses anyone who doesnt agree with Obama as being ignorant.
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No doubt about it, it happens on both sides.

But I think anyone remotely objective would have to agree that the right is far more apt to organize around simple-minded and superficial labels, as opposed to actual policy debate.

Can't blame them in the sense that its working on their base so far.
 
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lawgator1 said:
No doubt about it, it happens on both sides.

But I think anyone remotely objective would have to agree that the right is far more apt to organize around simple-minded and superficial labels, as opposed to actual policy debate.

Can't blame them in the sense that its working on their base so far.
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Yes, I would agree with you there.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I didn't see you make the same argument in retort to the thread about what the signs said, posted by a conservative, quoting someone else with an agenda.

Why not?
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Which thread are you talking about?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree. Problem is, it is a basic tenet of the current conservative leadership to drown out alternative points of view and to demagogue Democrats and others left of center, using trigger words, like Marxist, Hitler, etc., to label them.

Rather than discuss issues, they use labels. Why? Because it appeals to the lowest common denominator amongst their constituency.
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You mean the way the left has accused those who oppose Obama's policies as racist etc?

the left is every bit as guilty as the right. Yet you pretend as though it is not, or at the very least you excuse it because you agree.
 
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pejp said:
If 'Liberals' hate the US as much as people on here claim, dont you think its unlikely that the guy in the picture with a US flag in the background, a US bandanna, and a sign saying GO USA would be a 'liberal'?
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That picture was taken at a liberal rally, and has become symbolic of liberal stupidity. Do a little research before spouting off.

Now let's get down to brass tacks.

You are not a citizen of our nation. You are not even a citizen in your own nation. You are a peasant subject, bent to the wills of your Socialist government. Your opinions should be of what value to Americans?
 
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lawgator1 said:
No doubt about it, it happens on both sides.

But I think anyone remotely objective would have to agree that the right is far more apt to organize around simple-minded and superficial labels, as opposed to actual policy debate.

Can't blame them in the sense that its working on their base so far.
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If I didn't know you truly believed this it would be hysterical. The left is every bit as guilty in the right in this respect, the fact that you hold beliefs that fall into liberal or democrat thinking makes you blind to this fact. The fact that I am aware conservatives, (who I share a fair amount of basic ideas with) are just as guilty makes me much more objective in this instance than you are.

This is fact!
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
That picture was taken at a liberal rally, and has become symbolic of liberal stupidity. Do a little research before spouting off.

Now let's get down to brass tacks.

You are not a citizen of our nation. You are not even a citizen in your own nation. You are a peasant subject, bent to the wills of your Socialist government. Your opinions should be of what value to Americans?
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I'm paying tax in your nation so I'll take an interest in your politics whether you like it or not.

Do a little research before spouting off.
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British nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh the irony....
 
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KB5252 said:
If I didn't know you truly believed this it would be hysterical. The left is every bit as guilty in the right in this respect, the fact that you hold beliefs that fall into liberal or democrat thinking makes you blind to this fact. The fact that I am aware conservatives, (who I share a fair amount of basic ideas with) are just as guilty makes me much more objective in this instance than you are.

This is fact!
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I did not say the left does not do it as well.

I am saying that the right, particularly as organized by Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity, has really brought it to a whole new level.

Give the devil their due on it. It is definitely reeling in the more feeble minded and easily manipulated who cannot think for themselves.
 
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pejp said:
Yes, I would agree with you there.
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And wouldn't that most likely be because your ideas more closely resemble those of liberals or democrats? If either of you were to step back and really look at it you would see that both sides throw out sweeping generalizations......Liberals are all about hand outs, collecting welfare checks and are drains on society.......Conservatives are greedy fat cats who only look out for the rich, want to keep the little man down etc.

Seriously.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
That picture was taken at a liberal rally, and has become symbolic of liberal stupidity. Do a little research before spouting off.

Now let's get down to brass tacks.

You are not a citizen of our nation. You are not even a citizen in your own nation. You are a peasant subject, bent to the wills of your Socialist government. Your opinions should be of what value to Americans?
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Ah, you are correct. Apparently it was taken at a peace rally outside of a Boeing factory.

Along with counter demonstrators...

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lawgator1 said:
I did not say the left does not do it as well.

I am saying that the right, particularly as organized by Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity, has really brought it to a whole new level.

Give the devil their due on it. It is definitely reeling in the more feeble minded and easily manipulated who cannot think for themselves.
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so its taking away a majority of those that voted for the shepard?
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
1. Carry your ass back home. We don't need the money.



2. An armed person is a citizen, an unarmed person is a subject.



You are indeed nothing more than a peasant.
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1. The defecit would seem to indicate otherwise. Does it offend you that I'm taking a US citizens job in this time of economic stress?

2. :post-4-1090547912: I've seen people like you on TV but I didnt realise you actually existed in real life. This is fascinating. Tell me, what are your views on Creation vs Evolution? I could be on here all day!
 
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