Facing same team three times a year

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It just occurred to me that (we) or any East team could potentially face the same team three times in a year especially if the playoff expands to twelve.

Let’s say Georgia, now that they are the dominant team of the East (could be any East team), have Bama on their regular season schedule. They lose but have to face them in the SECCG. With the 12 team playoff, they enter the playoff as a two loss team and have to face them yet a third time.

That could bring redundancy to the playoff. I do remember the BCS rematch of Bama and LSU in the NC game from those outside the SEC. Now with the SEC becoming a super conference, this could lead to SEC fatigue.

We all know with even a four team playoff two SEC teams can get in. I don’t see a need for 12 but do agree there needs to be more than four.
 
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volsknx said:
It just occurred to me that (we) or any East team could potentially face the same team three times in a year especially if the playoff expands to twelve.

Let’s say Georgia, now that they are the dominant team of the East (could be any East team), have Bama on their regular season schedule. They lose but have to face them in the SECCG. With the 12 team playoff, they enter the playoff as a two loss team and have to face them yet a third time.

That could bring redundancy to the playoff. I do remember the BCS rematch of Bama and LSU in the NC game from those outside the SEC. Now with the SEC becoming a super conference, this could lead to SEC fatigue.

We all know with even a four team playoff two SEC teams can get in. I don’t see a need for 12 but do agree there needs to be more than four.
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The end results of what you lay out was very close to the most recent baseball championship series. That was almost a SEC tourney with a few others.
 
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volsknx said:
It just occurred to me that (we) or any East team could potentially face the same team three times in a year especially if the playoff expands to twelve.

Let’s say Georgia, now that they are the dominant team of the East (could be any East team), have Bama on their regular season schedule. They lose but have to face them in the SECCG. With the 12 team playoff, they enter the playoff as a two loss team and have to face them yet a third time.

That could bring redundancy to the playoff. I do remember the BCS rematch of Bama and LSU in the NC game from those outside the SEC. Now with the SEC becoming a super conference, this could lead to SEC fatigue.

We all know with even a four team playoff two SEC teams can get in. I don’t see a need for 12 but do agree there needs to be more than four.
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This isn’t ever going to happen. Not in football
 
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I think the playoffs should be reserved only for conference champions. If you aren't good enough to call yourself the best team in your conference, how can you say you are the best in the nation (alabama 2x)?
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I think the playoffs should be reserved only for conference champions. If you aren't good enough to call yourself the best team in your conference, how can you say you are the best in the nation (alabama 2x)?
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This. Especially now that they're going to 12, there's no point in excluding all conference champions.
 
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golfballs said:
The best team is always one of the top 4. Expanding beyond that is just about money
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I think the 1985 team ranked 8th at the end of the year could have beaten anyone at the end of the season. I'm not saying they would and I don't even like the playoffs as it ruined bowls, but that team could have potentially swept a playoff scenario. The controversy at the end of bowl season also helped the sport be interesting in my opinion.
 
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golfballs said:
The best team is always one of the top 4. Expanding beyond that is just about money
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That’s just it. How do you know the fourth team is the best? The last time tOSU won the NC, their selection in the playoffs was controversial. It’s a different game but March Madness shows that the team hot at the end of the season may end up the best.
 
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butchna said:
That’s just it. How do you know the fourth team is the best? The last time tOSU won the NC, their selection in the playoffs was controversial. It’s a different game but March Madness shows that the team hot at the end of the season may end up the best.
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And Baylor lost. So they got it right. March Madness definitely shows that the best team doesn’t always win. Maybe that’s how the college basketball champion is determined but college football is pretty different. I’d also rather have the best teams in football square off, and 99% of the time it’s going to be someone in the top 4
 
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golfballs said:
And Baylor lost. So they got it right. March Madness definitely shows that the best team doesn’t always win. Maybe that’s how the college basketball champion is determined but college football is pretty different. I’d also rather have the best teams in football square off, and 99% of the time it’s going to be someone in the top 4
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Baylor…”lost”…what? 🤨

I think your percentages are contrived…as are most.
 
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butchna said:
Baylor…”lost”…what? 🤨

I think your percentages are contrived…as are most.
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99% is hypothetical. In reality, since the playoff started the best team has 100% of the time been in the top 4. It doesn’t matter who might be hot at the end of the year.
 
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golfballs said:
99% is hypothetical. In reality, since the playoff started the best team has 100% of the time been in the top 4. It doesn’t matter who might be hot at the end of the year.
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Sounds like an opinion. If tOSU hadn’t squeaked in the last time they won a NC, then your opinion could be construed as 100% false.
 
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butchna said:
Baylor…”lost”…what? 🤨

I think your percentages are contrived…as are most.
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I assume he means that that 4th spot was gonna be between the suckeyes and Baylor.

Ohio State got the spot because they would bring more eyeballs that Baylor. Had little to nothing to do with who was the better team.

Nothing saying that Baylor could have not gone on a tear and won it just like Ohio State.
 
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stolitonic said:
I assume he means that that 4th spot was gonna be between the suckeyes and Baylor.

Ohio State got the spot because they would bring more eyeballs that Baylor. Had little to nothing to do with who was the better team.

Nothing saying that Baylor could have not gone on a tear and won it just like Ohio State.
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I assume he’s wrong. Best team wins the whole thing, right?
 
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volsknx said:
It just occurred to me that (we) or any East team could potentially face the same team three times in a year especially if the playoff expands to twelve.

Let’s say Georgia, now that they are the dominant team of the East (could be any East team), have Bama on their regular season schedule. They lose but have to face them in the SECCG. With the 12 team playoff, they enter the playoff as a two loss team and have to face them yet a third time.

That could bring redundancy to the playoff. I do remember the BCS rematch of Bama and LSU in the NC game from those outside the SEC. Now with the SEC becoming a super conference, this could lead to SEC fatigue.

We all know with even a four team playoff two SEC teams can get in. I don’t see a need for 12 but do agree there needs to be more than four.
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If it is anymore complicated than East and West expansion then it is over complicated and I have been waiting for that to happen since SECN came out with the pod idea. We don’t need a playoff for a playoff. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

Other conferences need to be strong still and they have options (maybe not Big 12) … Competition is a healthy thing. Basic 101 of everything that has ever had competition. It’s what makes a game worth playing.

Watch Simon Sinek’s stuff. He speak to CIA, Military, Top Dawgs at corporations and all sorts of people. He is privy and even talks about that until he gets uncomfortable and stops in one of his Ted Talks.

Definitely should tread carefully here IMO and KISS… the TX and Oklahoma additions are huge enough… NIL also presents big changes…change of transfer rule has programs having to deal with change more often… we are just coming off of COVID… we have four coaches in their second year here next year along with 2 first year coaches, and we are looking at a potential playoff expansion… there’s already a LOT going on.
 
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golfballs said:
The best team is always one of the top 4. Expanding beyond that is just about money
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It’s about money but think they realized they were damaging their brand to see same 4 teams anointed the title which means they can recruit to that. Opening up to 12 broadens the scope for recruiting for more teams to rise into the inner circle
 
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NFL junior league is coming . Bye bye NCAA , conferences will discipline their own universities. So if their universitys are doing some shady **** but are in playoff contention with money at stake are they really going to discipline them. Probably not.
How are the other conferences going to handle their disciplinary actions.
Who draws the line in the sand, and will it be equal across the board?
 
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It all about money.
Going to 12 gives room for any unbeaten teams in minor conferences.

It’s all about money.
Giving teams in minor conferences a way to win a NC. With 4 spots they all went to a P5 teams, with 12, the door is open to the all the other teams that might catch fire in a season. All D1(Whatever they are called now.) can recruit to their chance at winning the NC. Until it went to 12 they couldn’t. Well they could, but everyone knew better. Claiming the NC isn’t the same as earning it on the field.

It’s all about money.
 
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Group of five universities need to form 2 24 team leagues and have their own 16 team playoffs.
 
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Who cares if it's mostly SEC teams in it. That just means other conferences suck and aren't as good as the majority of SEC teams. Seems like other conferences need to step it up if they are tired of this.
 
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Bump because it looks like the OP scenario may not only come true and, if SEC remains dominant, could be a possibility year after year.

Then, the pundits will complain about that!
 
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#1fulmerite said:
Bump because it looks like the OP scenario may not only come true and, if SEC remains dominant, could be a possibility year after year.

Then, the pundits will complain about that!
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We said the same thing about Bama & Tennessee playing twice a year when the SECCG started.
Never happened once.
 
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