Fall Baseball Roster

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Several from last year's roster are missing and there are more cuts coming with 42 currently on the roster and it has to be down to 35 in the spring.
 
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greenwheel said:
The fall baseball roster is now posted on the UT Sports site.

Official Baseball Roster - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
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You can click on the headers and find interesting stuff.

42-total players
5-Seniors
9-Juniors
15-Sophomores (36%)
13-Freshmen (31%)

5- Catchers
11-Infielders
6- Outfielders
18-RHP (43% of roster are RHP?!?!)

6-players under 6'
36-players over 6'
11-players over 6'-3"

8- Players list Knoxville as hometown
7- Players are former Farragut Admirals

21- Players list Tenn. as home
9- California (10 if you count Serrano)
6- Georgia
2- South Carolina
1- Kentucky
1- Ohio
1- Washington
1- Arizona
0- Florida


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17 of the RHP have no other position listed as alternate.
6 of the RHP are upperclassmen (JR/SR)
4 of those upperclassmen RHP are JUCO


Thoughts.....

This roster is suddenly California-heavy and Florida- free. this sort of hearkens back to UT's glory days.

That's a lot or right-handed pitching. I'm guessing a lot of the required cuts will be the excess RHP

That's not a lot of outfielder

We are still a very young team with 67% of team being underclassmen.

Only 2 of our seniors are 4-year guys. Saberhagen and Nick Williams. Hell only 3 of our 9 juniors are 3-year players.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
You can click on the headers and find interesting stuff.

42-total players
5-Seniors
9-Juniors
15-Sophomores (36%)
13-Freshmen (31%)

5- Catchers
11-Infielders
6- Outfielders
18-RHP (43% of roster are RHP?!?!)

6-players under 6'
36-players over 6'
11-players over 6'-3"

8- Players list Knoxville as hometown
7- Players are former Farragut Admirals

21- Players list Tenn. as home
9- California (10 if you count Serrano)
6- Georgia
2- South Carolina
1- Kentucky
1- Ohio
1- Washington
1- Arizona
0- Florida


Further...
17 of the RHP have no other position listed as alternate.
6 of the RHP are upperclassmen (JR/SR)
4 of those upperclassmen RHP are JUCO


Thoughts.....

This roster is suddenly California-heavy and Florida- free. this sort of hearkens back to UT's glory days.

That's a lot or right-handed pitching. I'm guessing a lot of the required cuts will be the excess RHP

That's not a lot of outfielder

We are still a very young team with 67% of team being underclassmen.

Only 2 of our seniors are 4-year guys. Saberhagen and Nick Williams. Hell only 3 of our 9 juniors are 3-year players.
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That was a pretty sweet post man. I can't remember what team it was...maybe Oklahoma? If someone saw it perhaps they remember. But during the CWS they were talking about one of the coaches recruiting strategy regarding pitchers. They were saying he was taking mostly righties because it had become so hard to not lose elite lefties to the draft, he was just loading up on upper tier to elite righties. More less would rather have a stud righty than an average lefty. Can't remember who the coach was, I just remember they had been to multiple CWS, so it was hard to question dude's success.

I'm not saying this is what Serrano is doing. But it did cross my mind.
 
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RichRollin said:
That was a pretty sweet post man. I can't remember what team it was...maybe Oklahoma? If someone saw it perhaps they remember. But during the CWS they were talking about one of the coaches recruiting strategy regarding pitchers. They were saying he was taking mostly righties because it had become so hard to not lose elite lefties to the draft, he was just loading up on upper tier to elite righties. More less would rather have a stud righty than an average lefty. Can't remember who the coach was, I just remember they had been to multiple CWS, so it was hard to question dude's success.

I'm not saying this is what Serrano is doing. But it did cross my mind.
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That are good points.... There are obviously few left handed people anyway. Any of them that show any ability to throw a baseball are given extras attention and breaks. Those that don't play first base.
 
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Backwards K said:
Several from last year's roster are missing and there are more cuts coming with 42 currently on the roster and it has to be down to 35 in the spring.
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So how many of the 42 know coming into fall that they have very little chance to make the club? I'm sure a few realize they will be redshirted and one or two will end up being hurt.

This is where the transfer rule needs tweaking in my opinion. If an incoming player or even an existing one was to get cut from a D1 school they should be able to move on without penalty.
 
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I agree with Oldtimer. If a player is cut from a team and is academically eligible, he should be able to transfer without penalty. If he quits on his own, then I think he should have to sit the one year. Also, if he is a walkon, I think he should always be able to transfer without penalty.
 
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I am not sure about the transfer rules for scholarship and/or walk ons. Until recently, a player could play for an SEC team one season, transfer and play for another SEC team the next year.

I do know several of the players have been told they were welcome to compete for a roster spot this fall but they would have to show marked improvement to make the team. Some chose to stay and compete but they know where they stand.
 
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Backwards K said:
I am not sure about the transfer rules for scholarship and/or walk ons. Until recently, a player could play for an SEC team one season, transfer and play for another SEC team the next year.

I do know several of the players have been told they were welcome to compete for a roster spot this fall but they would have to show marked improvement to make the team. Some chose to stay and compete but they know where they stand.
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I'd be fine with having to transfer to an out of conference school. I think most players would agree to that as well. However, if a SEC coach doesn't want you to play for another SEC school then maybe he shouldn't cut you.......or on the other hand he may want you at another in conference school......:)

It's a tough situation for all involved. No one for the most part wants to transfer out. Maybe the coach over estimated a players ability and potential or the player may have quit developing or became lazy. Every situation is probably under a different set of circumstances. Being forewarned is one thing however it's still tough on the player when he was more than likely recruited to the school in the first place.

I agree with Rosinbag, if a scholarship player quits or if a walk-on is cut or dismissed, he should be able to go wherever he can find a roster spot.
 
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It has always disturbed me that athletes (like baseball players) are held to the same standards and strict rules that those on full scholarship are.

So guys that don't get a full ride have the same restrictions as football and basketball players. They have the same academic/APR guidelines. They have the same or similar transfer rules. They have the same practice limits. yada yada yada.
 
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Nothing too surprising. Obviously, Bennett and Thomas "retired" and we knew this summer about Vance. The others gone , Heath Loyd (Moving into student asst. role), Jason Manis, Davis Aiken and Michael Flax.

I agree that it seems likely some of those 18 RHP's won't all be around. The soph. class has quite a few pitchers that need to prove their worth imo. In addition, Houser, Lance and to a lesser degree, Moberg need to take a step too.
 
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vol66 said:
Nothing too surprising. Obviously, Bennett and Thomas "retired" and we knew this summer about Vance. The others gone , Heath Loyd (Moving into student asst. role), Jason Manis, Davis Aiken and Michael Flax.

I agree that it seems likely some of those 18 RHP's won't all be around. The soph. class has quite a few pitchers that need to prove their worth imo. In addition, Houser, Lance and to a lesser degree, Moberg need to take a step too.
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been out of loop. what happened to and where is vizcaino? thanks
 
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ronniegarvin said:
been out of loop. what happened to and where is vizcaino? thanks
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I don't know any details. I noticed that he wasn't listed as a Vol in summer ball, asked around...seems like it was a mutual decision to part ways. I don't know where Vizzy is now, but I wish him well.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
It has always disturbed me that athletes (like baseball players) are held to the same standards and strict rules that those on full scholarship are.

So guys that don't get a full ride have the same restrictions as football and basketball players. They have the same academic/APR guidelines. They have the same or similar transfer rules. They have the same practice limits. yada yada yada.
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Baseball players are actually held to stricter rules than the full-ride guys in "head count" sports. That's to prevent a player from getting 25% at one school from accepting a 50% offer (or any other offer that lowers his out of pocket costs) from another school. NCAA can't tolerate the slightest whiff of free market competition, so all baseball players (except a few, rare hardship cases) leaving a D1 school have to sit a year before playing at another D1.

Football and basketball players have more avenues to get a release and play right away. With 100% scholarships, they don't pay anything at any school they attend, so nobody can entice them with a better deal.

Unfortunately, the rule that prevents a midmajor baseball school from poaching an occasional bench player from a power conference school also prevents many players who get cut from schools every year through no fault of their own from finding a new opportunity to play D1 (unless they sit a year or go through the 4-2-4 route like Jared Allen and Zajac).

NCAA rules are written to protect schools or conferences, not players.
 
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ShowmeVols said:
.......That's to prevent a player from getting 25% at one school from accepting a 50% offer (or any other offer that lowers his out of pocket costs) from another school.......
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I've never looked at it from that standpoint. It makes sense the NCAA looks at it that way. However getting cut pays you 0% and should allow you to find another roster spot anywhere you can. Is the NCAA this stupid? Oh wait, I just answered my own question........
 
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Let me add one thing to the transfer rule.

If a kid has his scholarship reduced then he should immediately be eligible to transfer if in good academic standing.
 
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BruinVol said:
Let me add one thing to the transfer rule.

If a kid has his scholarship reduced then he should immediately be eligible to transfer if in good academic standing.
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In a fair world, yes. Unfortunately, no athletes are at the table when the rules get written.
 
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Spoke with Robbie the other day, apparently it was a mutual decision between CDS and Kidd. He's been encouraged to try out for the team next year though. Not sure the circumstances surrounding it all.
 
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