Fastest combine class ever?

[hndog609]

One wonders if Chris Johnson's recent combine 40 time might not only be broken but perhaps by more than one person. Consider these 100m times:

Jahvid Best, 10.36
CJ Spiller, 10.22
Jacoby Ford, 10.01
Trindon Holliday, 10.00 ('09 NCAA Champion)

I hope they all actually run at the combine. If they do I'm sure there will be more than a little interest.

 

[kev20]

jeeze, those are crappy 40 yard dash times.

 

[TrueOrange]

it's doubtful any of them are going to break that 4.24 electronicly timed 40 time;

that's the fastest time in, well a long time of using the electric clock on the 40 time, and to think that multiple people would break that is nuts

they'll all run at combine though

 

[hndog609]

it's doubtful any of them are going to break that 4.24 electronicly timed 40 time;

that's the fastest time in, well a long time of using the electric clock on the 40 time, and to think that multiple people would break that is nuts

they'll all run at combine though

You may be right but it's been longer still (or maybe even never) that anyone with no BS World Class speed (under 10.1 100m) has run at the combine and I certainly can't name one since the institution of electronic timing.

To my knowledge the fastest 100m time Johnson ever ran was a 10.38. All the people listed above are under that and Holliday/Ford are well under that.

Johnson may well just be a world class starter that just doesn't have the high end gear to get his time down into the lower 10's. There's precedent for this even at the highest levels. If you compare Maurice Greene's '01 9.79 dash vs Bolt's '09 9.58 you'll see that after 40m Greene is a scant .02 seconds behind. (actual run time with RT subtracted) Hell, if you keep the RT in they're both dead even at 4.64 over 40m. From there on though Bolt simply leaves him for dead and knocks off a whole .21 seconds from Greene's time over the remaining 60m.

It will be interesting.

 

[TrueOrange]

i promise you though, a 40 time like that one you saw from Johnson is a real rarity

these guys may very well all have 4.3 times, and it might very well end up like the fastest 40 time average in a class, but it'd be surprising if anyone other than spiller was close, especially multiple people

and yeah you note it a bit, but 100m run time becomes a completely different monster than 40s, in terms of speed these guys reach at those points and times

 

[hndog609]

i promise you though, a 40 time like that one you saw from Johnson is a real rarity

these guys may very well all have 4.3 times, and it might very well end up like the fastest 40 time average in a class, but it'd be surprising if anyone other than spiller was close, especially multiple people

and yeah you note it a bit, but 100m run time becomes a completely different monster than 40s, in terms of speed these guys reach at those points and times

I'm curious, why Spiller vs Holliday or Ford? All are sub-6.6 60m guys so it isn't like all their speed is at the top end but Holliday and Ford are both faster at 60m with Ford being the fastes of them all and having a NC at that distance to prove it.

As for your last paragraph that's precisely what makes this particular combine so interesting.

 

[TrueOrange]

I'm curious, why Spiller vs Holliday or Ford? All are sub-6.6 60m guys so it isn't like all their speed is at the top end but Holliday and Ford are both faster at 60m with Ford being the fastes of them all and having a NC at that distance to prove it.

As for your last paragraph that's precisely what makes this particular combine so interesting.

Spillers the only one I know getting the hype for fastest time beforehand. Ill be honest, I'm not familiar with ford. As for holliday, I do think he's quite fast, but I think of him more in reality of harvin area speed.

And yes, I never said it wouldn't be an interesting combine, but just the reality that johnsons speed is on a plain of its own. I think these guys will be like 4.3s fast and one may end up in the upper 4.2s, but someone getting into the lower 4.2s is pretty unrealistic; I mean that's kinda why what chris did was so special and so noticed.
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[hndog609]

Spillers the only one I know getting the hype for fastest time beforehand. Ill be honest, I'm not familiar with ford. As for holliday, I do think he's quite fast, but I think of him more in reality of harvin area speed.

And yes, I never said it wouldn't be an interesting combine, but just the reality that johnsons speed is on a plain of its own. I think these guys will be like 4.3s fast and one may end up in the upper 4.2s, but someone getting into the lower 4.2s is pretty unrealistic; I mean that's kinda why what chris did was so special and so noticed.
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You might well be right but this combine has an NCAA 60m national champion in Ford and an NCAA 100m national champion in Holliday. And that's before we even get to Spiller or Best.

I'm not actually predicting Johnson's 4.24 will be beat but if it doesn't go down with this combine's runner's I don't know how long it might last. Having said that, and to make Johnson's combine time seem a little less mythical in stature, you do know that his 4.24 only tied the record for the fastest 40 in the "modern" era. E KY's Rondel Melendez also ran a 4.24 back in '99.

 

[TrueOrange]

You might well be right but this combine has an NCAA 60m national champion in Ford and an NCAA 100m national champion in Holliday. And that's before we even get to Spiller or Best.

I'm not actually predicting Johnson's 4.24 will be beat but if it doesn't go down with this combine's runner's I don't know how long it might last. Having said that, and to make Johnson's combine time seem a little less mythical in stature, you do know that his 4.24 only tied the record for the fastest 40 in the "modern" era. E KY's Rondel Melendez also ran a 4.24 back in '99.

Right but how many participants even reach that number? I mean even some of the people we consider really fast only run 4.3s and of course anything before "modern" era were done by hand, so they are a lot less reliable

But you're the one who brought his time up as comparison
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[hndog609]

Right but how many participants even reach that number? I mean even some of the people we consider really fast only run 4.3s and of course anything before "modern" era were done by hand, so they are a lot less reliable

But you're the one who brought his time up as comparison
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True enough, but there's "really fast" and then there's "NCAA Champion" fast. We're in uncharted territory with guys running sub-10.1 100's and sub-6.6 60's.

Indeed I did. 4.24 is the target and the challengers are lined up. Combine starts the 24th. I suspect as it gets closer you'll start hearing more talk on this topic.

 

[TrueOrange]

True enough, but there's "really fast" and then there's "NCAA Champion" fast. We're in uncharted territory with guys running sub-10.1 100's and sub-6.6 60's.

Indeed I did. 4.24 is the target and the challengers are lined up. Combine starts the 24th. I suspect as it gets closer you'll start hearing more talk on this topic.

oh of course you'll hear a bunch about it; sports media likes to glorify a current champion or best at something much more than a past one