Overachievers? Oregon's had two elite DT's that have gone on to smash in the NFL and other solid ones behind them.
I didn't mean to group Ngata with the overachievers. He was a premier talent from day one. I'm speaking more towards players like Kenny Rowe and Brandon Bair.
But it still boils down to what the Ducks historic condition has been; they are typically loaded at the speed and skill positions and lacking in the positions that win championships.
Agree with you about LB's, but I'd put DE's and OL's higher on the list. Speaking of which, there are a couple quality DE's in Oregon and Washington that the Ducks are probably going to whif on. Where's holding down the local talent? Washington and Oregon State can do a better job of getting what little local talent comes out.
I have it DE/DT's, LB's, and OL in that order.
I've to have questioned why the Oregon staff is incapable of locking down the state. Players like Ndamukong Suh, or even more recently, Owamagbe Odighizuwa; Should not be getting snatched up by schools from outside states. It doesn't even make sense. :no:
I've said it before; Oregon is not a real national championship contender, no matter how much their fans want to believe they are, because whenever they play a motivated true elite squad, i.e. Boise, Oklahoma, USC, Ohio State, etc., the Ducks simply get smacked in the mouth and beat up. Chip Kelly is going to have to find a way to steal away the type of talent that won Pete Carroll all those championships.
I completely agree. I tried to convey that message to Ducks fans during my short time on a Duck board, but I'm wise enough to know when I'm fighting a losing battle. It isn't that Kelly isn't a good coach, or that Oregon is some trash program. It's that talent trumps all. When teams like Alabama, Florida, USC(pre sanction), etc; Are literally more talented than you at practically every position, chances are you're going to get smacked around a bit. It's also the reason those teams will maintain national success and consistently be in the hunt for national titles, whereas Oregon will have to settle for an outside shot a couple times a decade. As you said, until Kelly figures out how to steal and secure talents such as George Farmer, De'Anthony Thomas, and Greg Townsend Jr., Oregon will never make that step into elite status.
It doesn't appear to be happening yet, and it's unlikely. The Ducks, for the forseeable future, look like a solid top 10-15 type program that should be able to impose their will on lesser competition but simply won't be able to break into the company of Alabama, USC, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma and Ohio State.
It could happen, but a few things need to occur. There needs to be a PAC-12 network. Not enough Oregon games are nationally televised. I can literally tune in every saturday and watch Florida play on ESPN, CBS, or ABC. Oregon? If it isn't a big game, I have to catch it on JustinTV. Prospects need to be able to watch you on a consistent basis. Secondly, fire Nick Aliotti and get a real defensive coordinator. Either someone young and energetic, or someone with NFL experience. Either win out the rest of this season and make it to the national championship, or win your BCS bowl. The hype generated would have Oregon plastered all over television, and I could potentially see Phil creating a huge Nike campaign in tribute. Prospects need to see that.
With USC down, and seemingly out for the next 5 or so years, someone's going to have to pick up all that talent laying around in California. Oregon can either step up to the plate, or they can remain the Virginia Tech of the west. With USC under probation, it's now or never.