Few tweaks on offense I hope to see in Tuscaloosa

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The below is what I'd like to see on top of the outstanding running game we've had in the last two games. Because I think there's more out there that accounts for Joe's inconsistency/weaknesses, and if we can cover over those IMO we can score enough to beat Bama. We've got a borderline-elite Defense, the best return man in the country, a great punter (who IMO still has a fake in him), a better-than-average FG kicker, and a KO man who boots 99% of them out of the end zone.

1) ~5 designed runs for Joe. Every time he's either run the option, a QB sweep ((both, interestingly, running to his left), or just run a designed QB draw we've gotten positive yardage. Not always big plays per se, but positive gains that keep things moving and certainly are better than an incompletion or sack or even worse a pick. Just another weapon to work into the gameplan in an offense that needs as many as it can get right now.

2) This might have simply been due to how A&M specifically was playing defense OR it could have been because Heupel doesn't trust the non-Bru WRs to block them correctly (a fair consideration) but we only threw one RB flare pass (think Sampson go ~8 yards) and zero WR screens. I think those easy plays - which Joe has thrown really well - need to get back into the rotation. Again, if we simply don't trust the WRs to block them up then ok, although one would think Keyton and a TE could do it...

3) To that point, I do think we could try and get Sampson and even Wright split out into the slot and utilized as a WR in lieu of a backup WR. Not for Hyatt-type deep balls but just as a way to get them additional non-handoff touches.

4) Get Dee Williams just a handful of touches. He's not a WR so I don't expect to see him run even one route, but on either an in-motion pop-pass (which the few times we've done it have gone to Squirrel) or one of the aforementioned WR screens. He's just so electric and Heupel would be remiss to not try and incorporate that into the offense given its current struggles.

5) Easy sideline comebacks and outs. We ran an out to Squirrel on the first play of the game and Joe just missed the pitch and catch, but he's generally been pretty good on those. Same for the simple comeback on the sideline. I know Heupel wants to take deep shots, and I'm 100% good with doing that ~5 times a game - especially if we either have a mismatch ala Hyatt vs. their Safety last season OR if we're getting correctly called PI - but I think he just needs to tell Milton that instead of his first read being deep it needs to be to something easy.
 
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Get Warren involved more. WR's aren't cutting it. Let the TE catch and try to pound out some positive yards. Eventually that should free up a WR, hopefully Squirrel
Yep, good call on Warren and I forgot to add that one. No reason he can't be the 3rd down slant guy like Bru was, although Nimrod did a good job on the two opportunities he got.

Would also love to see if there is any way to shake Thornton loose. We've seen almost NO WR stack plays that got Hyatt so open so many times last season, and I'm sure there's a reason for that, but he seems like the ideal candidate for that role...
 
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#1 is my favorite as long as he's not afraid to lower the should and truck someone AND he hangs on to the ball.

I even think a gadget play where he'd end up as receiver down field might work.
 
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#1 is my favorite as long as he's not afraid to lower the should and truck someone AND he hangs on to the ball.

I even think a gadget play where he'd end up as receiver down field might work.
Yeah I mean it's effectively zero risk. A 6'5 240 lb RB who the defense isn't at least initially thinking is going to run. Should yield positive yards every single time.
 
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Yep, good call on Warren and I forgot to add that one. No reason he can't be the 3rd down slant guy like Bru was, although Nimrod did a good job on the two opportunities he got.

Would also love to see if there is any way to shake Thornton loose. We've seen almost NO WR stack plays that got Hyatt so open so many times last season, and I'm sure there's a reason for that, but he seems like the ideal candidate for that role...
Nimrod caught a slant 2 weeks ago for a first down. He's got great hands (soft and sure).

I'd just like to see him in a position where he can get YAC.
 
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Agree on the need for more WR screens. There was one to squirrel to the right that you missed. But overall we need more. Squirrel is too good with the ball in his hand, it’s an easy throw we can actually complete, and it helps our run game.

I think the reason we didn’t see them is because they’ve put handcuffs on Joe. I think early on his was pulling too much on called run plays and they’ve taken that option from him.
 
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As crazy as it sounds we need to be an option football team the rest of the season. No one respects his passing game and he needs to transition into more of a runner.
 
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#1 is my favorite as long as he's not afraid to lower the should and truck someone AND he hangs on to the ball.

I even think a gadget play where he'd end up as receiver down field might work.

I think lowering the shoulder was answered pretty well Saturday. Milton Newtoned at least 3 plus knocked ATMs #1 linebacker out of the game. 😄 That'll do Joe, that'll do.
 
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The below is what I'd like to see on top of the outstanding running game we've had in the last two games. Because I think there's more out there that accounts for Joe's inconsistency/weaknesses, and if we can cover over those IMO we can score enough to beat Bama. We've got a borderline-elite Defense, the best return man in the country, a great punter (who IMO still has a fake in him), a better-than-average FG kicker, and a KO man who boots 99% of them out of the end zone.

1) ~5 designed runs for Joe. Every time he's either run the option, a QB sweep ((both, interestingly, running to his left), or just run a designed QB draw we've gotten positive yardage. Not always big plays per se, but positive gains that keep things moving and certainly are better than an incompletion or sack or even worse a pick. Just another weapon to work into the gameplan in an offense that needs as many as it can get right now.

2) This might have simply been due to how A&M specifically was playing defense OR it could have been because Heupel doesn't trust the non-Bru WRs to block them correctly (a fair consideration) but we only threw one RB flare pass (think Sampson go ~8 yards) and zero WR screens. I think those easy plays - which Joe has thrown really well - need to get back into the rotation. Again, if we simply don't trust the WRs to block them up then ok, although one would think Keyton and a TE could do it...

3) To that point, I do think we could try and get Sampson and even Wright split out into the slot and utilized as a WR in lieu of a backup WR. Not for Hyatt-type deep balls but just as a way to get them additional non-handoff touches.

4) Get Dee Williams just a handful of touches. He's not a WR so I don't expect to see him run even one route, but on either an in-motion pop-pass (which the few times we've done it have gone to Squirrel) or one of the aforementioned WR screens. He's just so electric and Heupel would be remiss to not try and incorporate that into the offense given its current struggles.

5) Easy sideline comebacks and outs. We ran an out to Squirrel on the first play of the game and Joe just missed the pitch and catch, but he's generally been pretty good on those. Same for the simple comeback on the sideline. I know Heupel wants to take deep shots, and I'm 100% good with doing that ~5 times a game - especially if we either have a mismatch ala Hyatt vs. their Safety last season OR if we're getting correctly called PI - but I think he just needs to tell Milton that instead of his first read being deep it needs to be to something easy.
#4 - this isn’t a high school offense. You don’t run guys over there & teach them 3 plays.
 
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The below is what I'd like to see on top of the outstanding running game we've had in the last two games. Because I think there's more out there that accounts for Joe's inconsistency/weaknesses, and if we can cover over those IMO we can score enough to beat Bama. We've got a borderline-elite Defense, the best return man in the country, a great punter (who IMO still has a fake in him), a better-than-average FG kicker, and a KO man who boots 99% of them out of the end zone.

1) ~5 designed runs for Joe. Every time he's either run the option, a QB sweep ((both, interestingly, running to his left), or just run a designed QB draw we've gotten positive yardage. Not always big plays per se, but positive gains that keep things moving and certainly are better than an incompletion or sack or even worse a pick. Just another weapon to work into the gameplan in an offense that needs as many as it can get right now.

2) This might have simply been due to how A&M specifically was playing defense OR it could have been because Heupel doesn't trust the non-Bru WRs to block them correctly (a fair consideration) but we only threw one RB flare pass (think Sampson go ~8 yards) and zero WR screens. I think those easy plays - which Joe has thrown really well - need to get back into the rotation. Again, if we simply don't trust the WRs to block them up then ok, although one would think Keyton and a TE could do it...

3) To that point, I do think we could try and get Sampson and even Wright split out into the slot and utilized as a WR in lieu of a backup WR. Not for Hyatt-type deep balls but just as a way to get them additional non-handoff touches.

4) Get Dee Williams just a handful of touches. He's not a WR so I don't expect to see him run even one route, but on either an in-motion pop-pass (which the few times we've done it have gone to Squirrel) or one of the aforementioned WR screens. He's just so electric and Heupel would be remiss to not try and incorporate that into the offense given its current struggles.

5) Easy sideline comebacks and outs. We ran an out to Squirrel on the first play of the game and Joe just missed the pitch and catch, but he's generally been pretty good on those. Same for the simple comeback on the sideline. I know Heupel wants to take deep shots, and I'm 100% good with doing that ~5 times a game - especially if we either have a mismatch ala Hyatt vs. their Safety last season OR if we're getting correctly called PI - but I think he just needs to tell Milton that instead of his first read being deep it needs to be to something easy.
Especially agree w/ #1 and #4...both seem obvious. Milton not scaring anyone w/ passing ability...but he can keep them honest with running. In MY OPINION, a 50/50 ratio QB keeps would be good. Saw at least 3 plays last game if he kept the ball he's got alot of green grass in front of him...situational awareness not his strong suit though (like the 3rd down run w/ penalty where he ran out of bounds a yard b4 marker)...so, may as well call the fake w/ run to take if out of his hands.
 
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#4 - this isn’t a high school offense. You don’t run guys over there & teach them 3 plays.
For sure...but you can run screens, reverses, line him up at RB and bubble screen to him. All basic stuff not terribly unfamiliar w/ any of these high caliber athletes.
 
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The below is what I'd like to see on top of the outstanding running game we've had in the last two games. Because I think there's more out there that accounts for Joe's inconsistency/weaknesses, and if we can cover over those IMO we can score enough to beat Bama. We've got a borderline-elite Defense, the best return man in the country, a great punter (who IMO still has a fake in him), a better-than-average FG kicker, and a KO man who boots 99% of them out of the end zone.

1) ~5 designed runs for Joe. Every time he's either run the option, a QB sweep ((both, interestingly, running to his left), or just run a designed QB draw we've gotten positive yardage. Not always big plays per se, but positive gains that keep things moving and certainly are better than an incompletion or sack or even worse a pick. Just another weapon to work into the gameplan in an offense that needs as many as it can get right now.

2) This might have simply been due to how A&M specifically was playing defense OR it could have been because Heupel doesn't trust the non-Bru WRs to block them correctly (a fair consideration) but we only threw one RB flare pass (think Sampson go ~8 yards) and zero WR screens. I think those easy plays - which Joe has thrown really well - need to get back into the rotation. Again, if we simply don't trust the WRs to block them up then ok, although one would think Keyton and a TE could do it...

3) To that point, I do think we could try and get Sampson and even Wright split out into the slot and utilized as a WR in lieu of a backup WR. Not for Hyatt-type deep balls but just as a way to get them additional non-handoff touches.

4) Get Dee Williams just a handful of touches. He's not a WR so I don't expect to see him run even one route, but on either an in-motion pop-pass (which the few times we've done it have gone to Squirrel) or one of the aforementioned WR screens. He's just so electric and Heupel would be remiss to not try and incorporate that into the offense given its current struggles.

5) Easy sideline comebacks and outs. We ran an out to Squirrel on the first play of the game and Joe just missed the pitch and catch, but he's generally been pretty good on those. Same for the simple comeback on the sideline. I know Heupel wants to take deep shots, and I'm 100% good with doing that ~5 times a game - especially if we either have a mismatch ala Hyatt vs. their Safety last season OR if we're getting correctly called PI - but I think he just needs to tell Milton that instead of his first read being deep it needs to be to something easy.
I have seen my fair share of ugly games UT won and lost. Milton and WRs made enough plays to win. ATM was the best defense in the SEC and CJH called the right plays to win. We only have to point at the USCjr last year to see stuff happens. Milton is not Hooker and this defense is not last year's defense. One thing I am sure, Milton loves UT and he wants to hang fiddy on every team, let's love what is happening and NOT forget those previous HC goofballs we had before that embarrassed the fan base. Go Vols!!!!
 
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For sure...but you can run screens, reverses, line him up at RB and bubble screen to him. All basic stuff not terribly unfamiliar w/ any of these high caliber athletes.
What happens when he’s out there & you gotta check out of it?
 
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#4 - this isn’t a high school offense. You don’t run guys over there & teach them 3 plays.
I think having Dee Williams out there, whether he gets a lot of looks or not, is a wrinkle to our offense that might make defenses adjust enough to spring guys who DO have experience running routes but aren't quite getting enough separation for us.

I'm not sure it would really well on Steele and Saban because they have some pretty decent talent in coverage but a player like Williams in the game is going to get their attention.
 
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5) Easy sideline comebacks and outs. We ran an out to Squirrel on the first play of the game and Joe just missed the pitch and catch, but he's generally been pretty good on those. Same for the simple comeback on the sideline. I know Heupel wants to take deep shots, and I'm 100% good with doing that ~5 times a game - especially if we either have a mismatch ala Hyatt vs. their Safety last season OR if we're getting correctly called PI - but I think he just needs to tell Milton that instead of his first read being deep it needs to be to something easy.

I'm glad someone finally said it. I think this is the easiest thing we can do to help Joe play to his strengths and will do wonders to help open up deep shots later in the game. These routes seem like they are open every time we try them.
 

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