Final 11

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tabrams

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We have 18 guys committed right now, and we can take up to 11 more, if we sign and place 3......Here's my Final 11.....

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco)
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco)
3. Gabe Wright - DT
4. Mickey Johnson - DT
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB
7. Edrick Loften - DB
8. Derek King - DB
9. Antonio Richardson - OL
10. Cameron Clear - OL
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR

If we only take 2 or 3 DT's (instead of 4), then it opens up space for 1-2 playmakers, such as another RB, TE, or WR......anyone else??
 
#2
#2
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagan
4. De'Anthony Arnett
5. Cameron Clear
6. Antonio Richardson
7. Gionni Paul
8. Jairi Dunaway (sign & place)
9. Derek King

We actually have 19 commitments, Loften is considered a commitment. We have 7 spots left to fill & then we will greyshirt or sign & place 2-3 kids.
 
#3
#3
jmoore_21 said:
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagan
4. De'Anthony Arnett
5. Cameron Clear
6. Antonio Richardson
7. Gionni Paul
8. Jairi Dunaway (sign & place)
9. Derek King

We actually have 19 commitments, Loften is considered a commitment. We have 7 spots left to fill & then we will greyshirt or sign & place 2-3 kids.
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So do you think we will find out that one other guy will be ineligible or do you think someone will greyshirt.
 
#4
#4
jmoore_21 said:
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagan
4. De'Anthony Arnett
5. Cameron Clear
6. Antonio Richardson
7. Gionni Paul
8. Jairi Dunaway (sign & place)
9. Derek King

We actually have 19 commitments, Loften is considered a commitment. We have 7 spots left to fill & then we will greyshirt or sign & place 2-3 kids.
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wow that's pretty similiar......Mickey Johnson would be a sign & place, which would be great for us to get....
 
#5
#5
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagen
4. Antonio Richardson
5. Cameron Clear
6. Sylvester Williams
7. DeAnthony Arnett
8. Gionni Paul
9. Eddrick Loften
10. Brenden Bigelow
11a. Mickey Johnson (grades thing)
11b. Jay Rome (going to another school thing)
 
#6
#6
tvols75 said:
So do you think we will find out that one other guy will be ineligible or do you think someone will greyshirt.
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Honestly, I have no idea. This is something I've been thinking about all day. But looking at our commitment list every single kid has excellent grades & a qualifying score, on top of that the kids we are going after have excellent grades & qualifying scores. The only ones that I know of that may not qualify are Dunaway & Johnson. If we truly choose to oversign we may have to greyshirt someone, but I have no idea who it would be.
 
#7
#7
jmoore_21 said:
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagan
4. De'Anthony Arnett
5. Cameron Clear
6. Antonio Richardson
7. Gionni Paul
8. Jairi Dunaway (sign & place)
9. Derek King

We actually have 19 commitments, Loften is considered a commitment. We have 7 spots left to fill & then we will greyshirt or sign & place 2-3 kids.
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Nevermind...better

:good!:
 
#8
#8
jmoore_21 said:
We actually have 19 commitments, Loften is considered a commitment. We have 7 spots left to fill & then we will greyshirt or sign & place 2-3 kids.
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A few questions for you, jmoore:

First, what is the technical name for what Loften has done (cause he isn't a transfer, he isn't a greyshirt, he didn't go to juco for a year, etc.)? Will he show up as a class of 2011 commitment on Scout/Rivals/etc?

Second, what is the advantage of sign & place? Sign & place uses up a year of their eligibility and we then count them toward the next year's class, right? So if we can't have them for next season, wouldn't we rather just take another 2012 guy (especially in a case where we might be able to get a better player next year anyway)?

Thanks
 
#9
#9
sammyjoey said:
A few questions for you, jmoore:

First, what is the technical name for what Loften has done (cause he isn't a transfer, he isn't a greyshirt, he didn't go to juco for a year, etc.)? Will he show up as a class of 2011 commitment on Scout/Rivals/etc?

Second, what is the advantage of sign & place? Sign & place uses up a year of their eligibility and we then count them toward the next year's class, right? So if we can't have them for next season, wouldn't we rather just take another 2012 guy (especially in a case where we might be able to get a better player next year anyway)?

Thanks
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1. I dont think their is a particular name for what he has done, If I understand things correctly he will be a '11 commitment but will be backcounted to the '10 class. & he should show up as a part of this class.

2. There really is'nt a "advantage", if you think highly of a kid enough that you want him in your program but he doesnt have the grades then you send him to JUCO but you still have to continue to recruit him & hope he sticks because other schools have the chance to recruit him from you once he is in JUCO (most JUCO coaches send players back to the school that sent them to JUCO). Also the staff could send the kid to JUCO but just end up recruiting over them with a kid for the next seasons class.

Hope that answered your questions & made sense :hi:
 
#13
#13
UTMVol76 said:
1. Maurice Couch
2. Gabe Wright
3. Jeoffrey Pagen
4. Antonio Richardson
5. Cameron Clear
6. Sylvester Williams
7. DeAnthony Arnett
8. Gionni Paul
9. Eddrick Loften
10. Brenden Bigelow
11a. Mickey Johnson (grades thing)
11b. Jay Rome (going to another school thing)
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I really like this potential list in addition to the current commitments. 8 of 11 have great SIZE. The team will go from being very very undersized to fairly large including who is expected to contribute next year.

GBO:rock:
 
#14
#14
tabrams said:
We have 18 guys committed right now, and we can take up to 11 more, if we sign and place 3......Here's my Final 11.....

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco)
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco)
3. Gabe Wright - DT
4. Mickey Johnson - DT
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB
7. Edrick Loften - DB
8. Derek King - DB
9. Antonio Richardson - OL
10. Cameron Clear - OL
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR

If we only take 2 or 3 DT's (instead of 4), then it opens up space for 1-2 playmakers, such as another RB, TE, or WR......anyone else??
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Ok, I like this list. However, what are the chances we land these guys? Percentage wise? Lets start it and see what everyone thinks:

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco) _______%
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco) _________%
3. Gabe Wright - DT ________%
4. Mickey Johnson - DT ________%
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE ________%
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB _________%
7. Edrick Loften - DB ________%
8. Derek King - DB _________%
9. Antonio Richardson - OL ________%
10. Cameron Clear - OL _______%
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR _______%

Alright all you recruiting insider guru ppl...fill in the blanks with realistic numbers!
 
#15
#15
BiGdNtN said:
Ok, I like this list. However, what are the chances we land these guys? Percentage wise? Lets start it and see what everyone thinks:

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco) 95 %
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco) 20 % (Things are looking good with Couch, Wright, and Johnson, so I don't think we end up offering him)
3. Gabe Wright - DT 70 %
4. Mickey Johnson - DT 45 %
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE 55 %
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB 40 % (If we don't get him, it's because we've chosen not to accept his commitment)
7. Edrick Loften - DB 85 % (If we don't get him, it's because he didn't get a qualifying score)
8. Derek King - DB 25 % (Same as Dunaway, although I think in King's case we might have already moved on)
9. Antonio Richardson - OL 80 %
10. Cameron Clear - OL 75 %
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR 90 %

Alright all you recruiting insider guru ppl...fill in the blanks with realistic numbers!
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I'm certainly no "recruiting insider guru" but I'll play along. Listed again below in order of (my estimated) probability that they end up Vols:

Couch 95%
Arnett 90%
Loften 85%
Richardson 80%
Clear 75%
Wright 70%
Pagan 55%
Johnson 45%
Dunaway 40%
King 25%
Williams 20%
 
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#16
sammyjoey said:
I'm certainly no "recruiting insider guru" but I'll play along. Listed again below in order of (my estimated) probability that they end up Vols:

Couch 95%
Loften 95%
Arnett 90%
Richardson 85%
Clear 75%
Wright 70%
Pagan 60%
Johnson 55%
Dunaway 30%
King 20%
Williams 20%
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did I miss something on Arnett?? are we really at 90%?
 
#20
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BiGdNtN said:
Ok, I like this list. However, what are the chances we land these guys? Percentage wise? Lets start it and see what everyone thinks:

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco) ___95____%
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco) ____30%_____%
3. Gabe Wright - DT ___40%_____%
4. Mickey Johnson - DT ___45%_____%
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE ___50%_____%
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB ___40%______%
7. Edrick Loften - DB ____100%____%
8. Derek King - DB ____60%_____%
9. Antonio Richardson - OL ___90%_____%
10. Cameron Clear - OL ___75%____%
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR ___90%____%

Alright all you recruiting insider guru ppl...fill in the blanks with realistic numbers!
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jmo
 
#21
#21
BiGdNtN said:
Ok, I like this list. However, what are the chances we land these guys? Percentage wise? Lets start it and see what everyone thinks:

1. Maurice Couch - DT (juco) ___80____%
2. Sylvester Williams - DT (juco) ____25_____%
3. Gabe Wright - DT ____30____%
4. Mickey Johnson - DT ____40____%
5. Jeffrey Pagan - DE ____40____%
6. Jaiary Dunaway - LB ____50_____%
7. Edrick Loften - DB ____99____% (if he tests well)
8. Derek King - DB ____50_____%
9. Antonio Richardson - OL ____80____%
10. Cameron Clear - OL ___70____%
11. DeAnthony Arnett - WR ___75____%

Alright all you recruiting insider guru ppl...fill in the blanks with realistic numbers!
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just my $0.02
 
#23
#23
1. Maurice Couch (90%)
2. Gabe Wright (50%)
3. DeAnthony Arnett (70%)
4. Antonio Richardson (70%)
5. Cameron Clear (80%)
6. Gionni Paul (55%)
7. Jay Rome (33%)
8. Jermauria Rasco (35%) / Jeffery Pagan (50%) / Anthony Chickallo (25%) (would prefer chickallo out of them all,then rasco, then pagan)
9. Lamar Dawson (15%) / Lateek Townsend (25%)

jmo but thats how i think and hope it ends. percents are for the chance we could get them.
 
#25
#25
Who does our last DB (CB) commit come from? If we're passing on King and Countess. We're in the top 3 for Ronnie Harris and Dallas Crawford but it really doesnt seem like it's gonna be either of them (I'd love Harris). I see Kadetrix Marcus as a S and we don't need another one assuming Lofton gets in. We want/need another CB but it's been quiet on this front as of late. Any ideas or leads?
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