Florida doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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Obama health care supporters: Florida doctor tells Obama health care supporters to go elsewhere - OrlandoSentinel.com

Is it ok for this guy to protest HCR by posting a sign like that on his office door? What say ye?
 
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VolInMn said:
Is it ok for this guy to protest HCR by posting a sign like that on his office door? What say ye?
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why would it not be ok? I see no issue with it since doctors in the US have the same rights as everyone else
 
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I dunno. I was just thinking he was walking a fine line as far as the Hippocratic Oath is concerned. *shrug*
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
whats wrong w/ it? he can do what he wants
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he can until the next incremental step in Obamacare is passed, which will no doubt involve licensing restrictions on docs who refuse to play along with socialized medicine.
 
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VolInMn said:
I dunno. I was just thinking he was walking a fine line as far as the Hippocratic Oath is concerned. *shrug*
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I didn't read your link but I read an article on this
a couple of days ago quoted the doctor as saying
he would treat anyone, people didn't have to obey
that sign.

As I see it he is exercising his first amendment
rights while he still can.

This helps dispel a couple of liberal myths,

1. that everyone is tickled pink at the success of
the socialists progress and

2. that people who oppose obamacare are just
ignorant of what it says.

Obviously the doctor understands the law enough
to be completely repulsed by it.

And don't try to tell me you have read the thousands
of pages in it and understand all that evasive legalese.
 
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VolInMn said:
I dunno. I was just thinking he was walking a fine line as far as the Hippocratic Oath is concerned. *shrug*
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Saw an article from another board where he said he wouldn't refuse treatment since that would be unethical but if someone sees this sign and decides to go elsewhere then he's cool wit dat.
 
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volinbham said:
Saw an article from another board where he said he wouldn't refuse treatment since that would be unethical but if someone sees this sign and decides to go elsewhere then he's cool wit dat.
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I dunno....could you put a sign up that said "If you're a blonde", or "If you're a Baptist" or "If you're a Irishman" or "If you're not a UT fan"?
 
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VolInMn said:
I dunno....could you put a sign up that said "If you're a blonde", or "If you're a Baptist" or "If you're a Irishman" or "If you're not a UT fan"?
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Sure you could. You just can't discriminate against those in defined protected classes.
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VolInMn said:
I dunno. I was just thinking he was walking a fine line as far as the Hippocratic Oath is concerned. *shrug*
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When you have congressmen that do not know or care about the constitution, this doctor can do whatever he wants!
 
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VolInMn said:
I dunno....could you put a sign up that said "If you're a blonde", or "If you're a Baptist" or "If you're a Irishman" or "If you're not a UT fan"?
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No shirt, no shoes...

People boycott companies all the time for silly crap - I don't have a problem with this guy doing this provided it's lawful and within the ethics of his profession.
 
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The guy's wife is running for office in a super-Republican County. It's a bit of a stunt.

Having said that, while he of course is obliged to say he'd treat anyone, regardless of their political views, he maintains that he would prefer not to treat people who voted for Obama. Small comfort I imagine to his patients that would worry that he's less than enthusiastic about them based on who they voted for in an election, which seems to me to be a ridiculous basis to say who you would prefer to treat.

What is really interesting to me is the disconnect: he says its about health care. But note that he says he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. He doesn't say he bases it on whether you support the healthcare bill. Or whether you voted for any of the Democratic members of the Congress who supported it.

No, he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. I think that's what it's really all about. As is the political motivation of the GOP here, simply deny and disparage everything from or about Obama.

Sad.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The guy's wife is running for office in a super-Republican County. It's a bit of a stunt.

Having said that, while he of course is obliged to say he'd treat anyone, regardless of their political views, he maintains that he would prefer not to treat people who voted for Obama. Small comfort I imagine to his patients that would worry that he's less than enthusiastic about them based on who they voted for in an election, which seems to me to be a ridiculous basis to say who you would prefer to treat.

What is really interesting to me is the disconnect: he says its about health care. But note that he says he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. He doesn't say he bases it on whether you support the healthcare bill. Or whether you voted for any of the Democratic members of the Congress who supported it.

No, he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. I think that's what it's really all about. As is the political motivation of the GOP here, simply deny and disparage everything from or about Obama.

Sad.
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Thats ok, I wouldn't want you to defend me either, because you voted for Obama.:)
 
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lawgator1 said:
The guy's wife is running for office in a super-Republican County. It's a bit of a stunt.

Having said that, while he of course is obliged to say he'd treat anyone, regardless of their political views, he maintains that he would prefer not to treat people who voted for Obama. Small comfort I imagine to his patients that would worry that he's less than enthusiastic about them based on who they voted for in an election, which seems to me to be a ridiculous basis to say who you would prefer to treat.

What is really interesting to me is the disconnect: he says its about health care. But note that he says he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. He doesn't say he bases it on whether you support the healthcare bill. Or whether you voted for any of the Democratic members of the Congress who supported it.

No, he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. I think that's what it's really all about. As is the political motivation of the GOP here, simply deny and disparage everything from or about Obama.

Sad.
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from late January 2001 to late January 2009, your side did everything it could to deny and disparage everything from or about Bush.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, you want to cry and complain about the unfairness of it all. The troubling aspect of all this is that now you have an administration that has an inability to handle criticism and rather than actually respond to the criticism, it plays the race card and makes other attempts to silence dissent.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The guy's wife is running for office in a super-Republican County. It's a bit of a stunt.

Having said that, while he of course is obliged to say he'd treat anyone, regardless of their political views, he maintains that he would prefer not to treat people who voted for Obama. Small comfort I imagine to his patients that would worry that he's less than enthusiastic about them based on who they voted for in an election, which seems to me to be a ridiculous basis to say who you would prefer to treat.

What is really interesting to me is the disconnect: he says its about health care. But note that he says he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. He doesn't say he bases it on whether you support the healthcare bill. Or whether you voted for any of the Democratic members of the Congress who supported it.

No, he doesn't want to treat you if you voted for Obama. I think that's what it's really all about. As is the political motivation of the GOP here, simply deny and disparage everything from or about Obama.

Sad.
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Just say it - doc is a racist bastage.
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volinbham said:
No shirt, no shoes...

People boycott companies all the time for silly crap - I don't have a problem with this guy doing this provided it's lawful and within the ethics of his profession.
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Reminds me of Harry's New York Bar in Paris, France.

No tennis shoes.
 
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Burnham Forgets 230,000 on List
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£1.2bn bill for the bureaucrat army within the NHS
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Couples Face an IVF Postcode Lottery
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VolInMn said:
I dunno....could you put a sign up that said "If you're a blonde", or "If you're a Baptist" or "If you're a Irishman" or "If you're not a UT fan"?
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Things is red are what you are born. I would concede that it may not be fair to point out people's characteristics that they have no control over.

Things in green are personal choices that an individual makes, so I see no problem with what he did.

People have control over who they vote for...
 
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