Football is the front porch of a university.

[EconVol92]

I don’t know who said it originally, but it’s true.

I saw a report that stated:

UT received 38,483 applications by the early action deadline of Nov. 1, a 43.2% increase representing 11,601 more early action applications than in 2021. According to the Office of Enrollment Management, the university received a total of 36,290 applications in 2022.

Of this fall’s early action applicants, 25%, or 9,609, were in-state students and 75%, or 28,874, were out-of-state or international students. Compared to last fall, there was a 15.9% increase in in-state applications by Nov. 1 and a staggering 55.3% increase in out-of-state or international applications.

On Tuesday, students from all 95 counties in Tennessee, all 50 states in the U.S. and 54 countries found out whether they were offered first-year admission into the class of 2027.Some took to social media using the hashtag#utk27 to celebrate their offers.

If the above does not support the front porch statement I don’t know what does.

 

[Jravol78]

I don’t know who said it originally, but it’s true.

I saw a report that stated:

UT received 38,483 applications by the early action deadline of Nov. 1, a 43.2% increase representing 11,601 more early action applications than in 2021. According to the Office of Enrollment Management, the university received a total of 36,290 applications in 2022.

Of this fall’s early action applicants, 25%, or 9,609, were in-state students and 75%, or 28,874, were out-of-state or international students. Compared to last fall, there was a 15.9% increase in in-state applications by Nov. 1 and a staggering 55.3% increase in out-of-state or international applications.

On Tuesday, students from all 95 counties in Tennessee, all 50 states in the U.S. and 54 countries found out whether they were offered first-year admission into the class of 2027.Some took to social media using the hashtag#utk27 to celebrate their offers.

If the above does not support the front porch statement I don’t know what does.

I am not sure if he coined the phrase but former UT President Joe Johnson often stated that “Football is the front porch of The University.”

 

[Jax_Vol]

It is an extremely true statement.


Go Vols!!!

 

[GAVol]

On Tuesday, students from all 95 counties in Tennessee, all 50 states in the U.S. and 54 countries found out whether they were offered first-year admission into the class of 2027.Some took to social media using the hashtag#utk27 to celebrate their offers.

My niece was one of them.

 

[Jax_Vol]

My niece was one of them.

She must not have mentioned that on her application

 

[AthensVol2007]

I’ve been saying this for years. Tuscaloosa is printing money from Saban and football’s success. Out of state students now outnumber in state students at 2x the tuition $ and the same cost to educate them; and it has nothing to do with the academic prowess of Bama or the captivating city of Tuscaloosa. Greater numbers of applicants allows the university to be more selective and in turn boost their academic profile. Cheek and his cronies had it backwards, trying to push the university to a top 25 institution at the expense of athletics.

 

[Special Ed]

Alabama is the outhouse of a university.

 

[TheFlash1971]

I’ve been saying this for years. Tuscaloosa is printing money from Saban and football’s success. Out of state students now outnumber in state students at 2x the tuition $ and the same cost to educate them; and it has nothing to do with the academic prowess of Bama or the captivating city of Tuscaloosa. Greater numbers of applicants allows the university to be more selective and in turn boost their academic profile. Cheek and his cronies had it backwards, trying to push the university to a top 25 institution at the expense of athletics.

Captivating city of Tuscaloosa, you hit the nail on the head their.

 

[wmcovol]

Tennessee has so much more going for it than Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana etc
better city
Better state to get a job

Go to Auburn. Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU & you’ll most likely end up working in another state

 

[dobre_shunka]

I’ve been saying this for years. Tuscaloosa is printing money from Saban and football’s success. Out of state students now outnumber in state students at 2x the tuition $ and the same cost to educate them; and it has nothing to do with the academic prowess of Bama or the captivating city of Tuscaloosa. Greater numbers of applicants allows the university to be more selective and in turn boost their academic profile. Cheek and his cronies had it backwards, trying to push the university to a top 25 institution at the expense of athletics.

It has to do with the state of Alabama reducing university funding overall and the U of A then making a deliberate decision to pursue more out of state and international students in order to collect more tuition money to offset the reduced state funding.

UA is ‘extreme case’ of state schools recruiting out-of-state residents, report finds

 

[Volfan1000]

Basketball is the living room and baseball is the kitchen.

 

[over60vol]

I am not sure if he coined the phrase but former UT President Joe Johnson often stated that “Football is the front porch of The University.”

You are correct sir.

 

[VOLfrombama]

Its really insane how much construction is going on in Tuscaloosa. The university and all the properties that surround it have changed so dramatically over the last 15 years.

Now once you get away from the university, it’s like you’re going back in time.

 

[savannahfan]

Not sure, but one might look to "cost" of education as a reason as apposed to other universities in some states and UT's entrance qualifications. Not so sure "football" is "the" reason just one of several.

 

[OffTackleVol]

I don’t know who said it originally, but it’s true.

I saw a report that stated:

UT received 38,483 applications by the early action deadline of Nov. 1, a 43.2% increase representing 11,601 more early action applications than in 2021. According to the Office of Enrollment Management, the university received a total of 36,290 applications in 2022.

Of this fall’s early action applicants, 25%, or 9,609, were in-state students and 75%, or 28,874, were out-of-state or international students. Compared to last fall, there was a 15.9% increase in in-state applications by Nov. 1 and a staggering 55.3% increase in out-of-state or international applications.

On Tuesday, students from all 95 counties in Tennessee, all 50 states in the U.S. and 54 countries found out whether they were offered first-year admission into the class of 2027.Some took to social media using the hashtag#utk27 to celebrate their offers.

If the above does not support the front porch statement I don’t know what does.

I haven't read the replies, so maybe someone has already posted it. But, I distinctly remember Dr. Joe Johnson stating that very thing.

 

[CSVol]

Anecdotal, but I know personally two kids from our Central Texas high school that applied to UT this year. One’s dad is the biggest bammer this side of Harvey Updyke so now when we’re together I just laugh and laugh and laugh and…

 

[SockeyeVol]

I don’t know who said it originally, but it’s true.

I saw a report that stated:

UT received 38,483 applications by the early action deadline of Nov. 1, a 43.2% increase representing 11,601 more early action applications than in 2021. According to the Office of Enrollment Management, the university received a total of 36,290 applications in 2022.

Of this fall’s early action applicants, 25%, or 9,609, were in-state students and 75%, or 28,874, were out-of-state or international students. Compared to last fall, there was a 15.9% increase in in-state applications by Nov. 1 and a staggering 55.3% increase in out-of-state or international applications.

On Tuesday, students from all 95 counties in Tennessee, all 50 states in the U.S. and 54 countries found out whether they were offered first-year admission into the class of 2027.Some took to social media using the hashtag#utk27 to celebrate their offers.

If the above does not support the front porch statement I don’t know what does.

I sure nothing else could have accounted for the increased applicants. Like emerging from a world wide pandemic, for example.

 

[AthensVol2007]

It has to do with the state of Alabama reducing university funding overall and the U of A then making a deliberate decision to pursue more out of state and international students in order to collect more tuition money to offset the reduced state funding.

UA is ‘extreme case’ of state schools recruiting out-of-state residents, report finds

Kids from out of state were applying to UA long before this research was conducted. In the 3 years I was living in middle TN and going to church in Brentwood not one single kid at our church went to UT (15-20 graduates per year). There were 3-5 going to Tuscaloosa every year between 2014-2016. Even with the funding cuts and a focus on recruiting OOS students there has to be a carrot for the student to ultimately choose Bama; and as the article explicitly states, they’ve parlayed their athletic (specifically football) success into attracting these kids. Again, they’re not coming for the astute academics or metropolis that is Tuscaloosa. So football is the carrot for these students. It brings infinitely more $ to the community, which attracts more businesses and eateries, which in turn enhances the collegiate experience. FGCU saw a 30% bump after its 2015 SW16 run, Wichita State 27% after its 2013 F4 run, my post-grad alma mater WKU saw similar #’s in 2009. The “science” is real for this and then you take it and multiply it by 15x for the run Bama has had and it’s a no brainer.

My personal anecdote on college choice boiled down to athletics. I was deciding on my dad’s alma mater, a D2, private school (without a football team) 2.5 hrs from home in FL and UT, the school I grew up rooting for 14 hrs from home. I had decided on staying close to home and my dad asked me one question that literally changed my life’s trajectory, “are you prepared to live 4 years without football on campus”? I was not and UT became my choice.

 

[AthensVol2007]

I sure nothing else could have accounted for the increased applicants. Like emerging from a world wide pandemic, for example.

You’re more likely to get Covid going to an OOS school than an in-state school?

 

[stevenrich2003]

Kids from out of state were applying to UA long before this research was conducted. In the 3 years I was living in middle TN and going to church in Brentwood not one single kid at our church went to UT (15-20 graduates per year). There were 3-5 going to Tuscaloosa every year between 2014-2016. Even with the funding cuts and a focus on recruiting OOS students there has to be a carrot for the student to ultimately choose Bama; and as the article explicitly states, they’ve parlayed their athletic (specifically football) success into attracting these kids. Again, they’re not coming for the astute academics or metropolis that is Tuscaloosa. So football is the carrot for these students. It brings infinitely more $ to the community, which attracts more businesses and eateries, which in turn enhances the collegiate experience. FGCU saw a 30% bump after its 2015 SW16 run, Wichita State 27% after its 2013 F4 run, my post-grad alma mater WKU saw similar #’s in 2009. The “science” is real for this and then you take it and multiply it by 15x for the run Bama has had and it’s a no brainer.

My personal anecdote on college choice boiled down to athletics. I was deciding on my dad’s alma mater, a D2, private school (without a football team) 2.5 hrs from home in FL and UT, the school I grew up rooting for 14 hrs from home. I had decided on staying close to home and my dad asked me one question that literally changed my life’s trajectory, “are you prepared to live 4 years without football on campus”? I was not and UT became my choice.

Your father is a wise man.... I hope you cherish him. He will not be here forever, so make sure you enjoy the time you have with him.

 

[Volador]

When my feet walked the pavement of UT in the Fall of 1975 as a Frosh, I was surprised to hear that the top out of state state supplying Ktown w students was NJ - my home state. All three kids in my family went because our next door neighbors sent 2 of their 3 kids to UT.

It comes down to knowing that there are choices for colleges, for college football in the mid Atlantic and Northeastern states was hardly on the map in the 70s/80s. Today, if you like sports, you are bombarded with college football from coast to coast. So imagine you are a Jr or Sr in high school living up north and you turn on College Game Day and see the pageantry of all that Knoxville, UT and East Tennessee offers? OMG, that vs some dreary old frozen tundra college that costs 2 or 3 times what UT costs and you're like, "Mom & Dad, I am applying to Thee University of Tennessee today".

UT Football is our calling card and, the flowers for the bees. It helps us get the students and parents attention so that we can show them the high level and breadth of education one can attain at UT. I for one did pretty darn good with a BS in Marketing from UT - and this is exciting to hear that we are bringing in a diverse geographic student body.

 

[volfan102455]

If Football was the sole reason, then a 3rd of the stadium would be filled with students as there is over 31K students. There is never that many at the games

While I do agree that TV appearances for sports, football, basketball, etc. do give awareness to potential students that there is a university in Knoxville, in the end it should come down to the best school for whatever it is the student wants to study - or it is wasted time and money.

I really do wonder though what the general path for in state Tennessee students though, and I am not talking about athletes - but others. With Tennessee promise you get two free years of tuition at the community colleges with a path to one of the Universities - saves a lot of money and allows many an opportunity to attend college that could not do so otherwise due to financial reasons. You can still use some of various grants for UTK, but it doesn't cover everything 100%.

 

[volfan102455]

Not sure, but one might look to "cost" of education as a reason as apposed to other universities in some states and UT's entrance qualifications. Not so sure "football" is "the" reason just one of several.

This! You can't attend a school you cannot afford or get into regardless of whether you want to or not. Though some just roll the dice, incur staggering amounts of loans that they will never be able to fully pay back.

Out of high school, I had UT and a couple of schools in the west on my list. My Dad sat down and explained both the logistics and money ramifications of each. I opted for closer to home with something I could afford without having to incur any student loans. Best decision ever.

 

[Savannahbayvol]

Tennessee has so much more going for it than Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana etc
better city
Better state to get a job

Go to Auburn. Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU & you’ll most likely end up working in another state

Exactly, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana ae the 3 biggest cesspool states in the country. LSU and the Alabama schools winning Natties has done nothing for education and quality of life in those 2 states as they are 49 and 50 in those categories.

 

[Chad F]

Anecdotal, but I know personally two kids from our Central Texas high school that applied to UT this year. One’s dad is the biggest bammer this side of Harvey Updyke so now when we’re together I just laugh and laugh and laugh and…

@CSVol - Where are you in Central Texas? We can’t be too far from each other.