For SEC first guys, will you be rooting for UGA over Notre Dame and will it help us with recruits?

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05_never_again said:
That's the mentality we all have now, because the program sucks. Assuming that you are in a position to take advantage of it, I still think it is to your advantage to have your conference "look good," particularly when playing non-conference teams.

As an example, I don't know if it is in Clemson's long-term interest to have the rest of the ACC be as bad as it is. It doesn't matter a whole lot today because they decimated Alabama last year in a title game, but imagine a point in the future where they get into the CFP but get bounced. If that happens more than once, and they aren't playing a particularly strong conference schedule, that could eventually become a deciding factor for them in whether or not they get playoff spots. I honestly think it is in their interest to have at least one other good program in the ACC.

I think the Pac 12 is already in a position where their one-loss conference champ would not get in the CFP. By contrast, in the SEC, a one-loss conference champ is getting in with no debate; hell, the SEC has already had 2 teams get in the CFP without even winning the SEC. Conference reputation and SoS has everything to do with that. There are 4 CFP teams and 5 P5 conferences. Someone's conference champ, or the best team in one of the conferences, is getting left out.
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Exactly what you said...if I win against an opponent which has a high ranking, it improves my chances making the post-season---strength of schedule and all. If we want 2 teams from the SEC in the 4 team playoff, then pull for the SEC team against OOC opponent. I hope for the day when the 4 top spots are all occupied by SEC teams. Yours, mine, and wherever else's. Maybe some feel "if my team cant get in, then I dont want anybody's team in." Hard to understand that, but I'm sure its so.
 
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Hoping for a total wash out so neither team gets a win.
Will a loss to ND help UT in recruiting? Seriously?
 
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peaygolf said:
Hoping for a total wash out so neither team gets a win.
Will a loss to ND help UT in recruiting? Seriously?
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In the context the question was asked probably not. I was answering because I am tired of our sworn enemies winning. Nothing more.
 
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UTwild82 said:
This surprises me. I just assumed Florida State was the Gators biggest rival. Does it just differ among the fanbase who the most hated rival is?
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Pretty much.

I’m a UF alum in my 50s from Jacksonville, so my childhood was filled with memories of UGA coming to town in the 1970s and early 1980s and beating us like a drum more often than not...followed by my college years in the mid 1980s witnessing more of the same.
 
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I'm looking forward to the matchup. Notre Dame has been characterized, right or wrong, as a good team but they supposedly don't have the defensive line speed and athletes to keep up with the better SEC teams. Georgia has both, we shall see.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
I'm looking forward to the matchup. Notre Dame has been characterized, right or wrong, as a good team but they supposedly don't have the defensive line speed and athletes to keep up with the better SEC teams. Georgia has both, we shall see.
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I'm not feeling too confident about UGA being ranked #3 right now. The offense doesn't look sharp. The WR's still look inexperienced and the OL hasn't lived up to their billing so far, too many blown assignments and straight up missed blocks. Defense might be good, but I'll have to see how our front 7 plays against a better OL. We won the first three games easily because of a major talent advantage, but that changes Saturday. This won't be the cakewalk some folks are expecting IMO.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
I'm not feeling too confident about UGA being ranked #3 right now. The offense doesn't look sharp. The WR's still look inexperienced and the OL hasn't lived up to their billing so far, too many blown assignments and straight up missed blocks. Defense might be good, but I'll have to see how our front 7 plays against a better OL. We won the first three games easily because of a major talent advantage, but that changes Saturday. This won't be the cakewalk some folks are expecting IMO.
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I doubt that's the Georgia team you see this Saturday. These mega-talented teams seem to have an extra gear when push comes to shove. I like Georgia's chances of making ND more one dimensional than the Irish can accomplish. Home cooking will also challenge the dawgs to dig deep. I like Georgia.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
I doubt that's the Georgia team you see this Saturday. These mega-talented teams seem to have an extra gear when push comes to shove. I like Georgia's chances of making ND more one dimensional than the Irish can accomplish. Home cooking will also challenge the dawgs to dig deep. I like Georgia.
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Yeah, I'm trying to account for early season rust. The Vanderbilt game was ugly for our offense after the first quarter. Maybe they sat on the lead? but the execution was bad for the last 45 minutes. Fromm has been efficient but still can't hit the long balls to open up the D. I wouldn't feel so bad if Vandy's D was any good but Purdue passed for a country mile on them. Notre Dame doesn't sound impressive either though. I'll take a close win.
 
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Detest both schools and their respective fan bases. Hoping we get a good ole comet in Athens come Saturday.
 
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Conference strength/pride matters if we are good, otherwise it doesn't. If by some miracle we did run the table this year and finish 10-2, then yes, we will want Georgia to have beaten ND and Georgia Tech, Florida to have beaten Florida State, and South Carolina to have beaten Clemson, because it will increase our standing since we will have beaten those teams (if we ran the table). Bowls likewise matter for future conference strength perception.

Back when there used to be a reasonable chance of stuff like that happening (us running the table and being ranked as contenders the following year) I think more folks cared about the SEC's national reputation since we could end up the standard bearer. Now that we have been mediocre to bad more often than not for over a dozen years, more of our fans have adopted a burn it all down spoiler mentality, which is the traditional attitude of underdogs.
 
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I’m drinking the VN Kool-Aid now...

Seeing as how UF is at best Citrus Bowl bound, my remaining source of joy this season will come when UGA is officially eliminated from the national championship picture.

That said, Go Irish!
(even though I expect UGA to pound them)
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Back when there used to be a reasonable chance of stuff like that happening (us running the table and being ranked as contenders the following year) I think more folks cared about the SEC's national reputation since we could end up the standard bearer. Now that we have been mediocre to bad more often than not for over a dozen years, more of our fans have adopted a burn it all down spoiler mentality, which is the traditional attitude of underdogs.
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I'm not so sure about that. "SEC fans" kind of became a big thing in the midst of the SEC's streak of national championships, and the biggest promoters of the conference's strength are often fans of teams that are terrible (like us) or who are almost good enough to beat the conference's champion (like Georgia or LSU). That was an incredible streak the conference had, and I still think it is the deepest and most competitive conference, but there's some coattail riding that absolutely goes on.

I don't really hear all that many Bammers, since they are the best team in the conference, talk about how great the conference is.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not so sure about that. "SEC fans" kind of became a big thing in the midst of the SEC's streak of national championships, and the biggest promoters of the conference's strength are often fans of teams that are terrible (like us) or who are almost good enough to beat the conference's champion (like Georgia or LSU). That was an incredible streak the conference had, and I still think it is the deepest and most competitive conference, but there's some coattail riding that absolutely goes on.

I don't really hear all that many Bammers, since they are the best team in the conference, talk about how great the conference is.
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Living on the west side of town, even if it's not always said, it's implied. The SEC is just better than everyone else. Can't possibly see that changing, given this is where most of the talent resides. The days of the B1G coming south and poaching our best players, those days are also gone with the wind.
 
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I hate ND, I hate UGA. The worst part of this, is that I’m envious of them right now. Growing up, we owned UGA. They were an after thought, almost a guaranteed W. When Spurrier left after ‘01 that was our time to take the reigns and run the SEC. We all know how that turned out, and now here is UGA with the right coach, getting anyone they want and we are what we are.

It sucks that I am jealous of what Athens, Ga, will be Saturday night. The center of the college football world with an incredible atmosphere . As a college football fan it will be something to see .
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I hate ND, I hate UGA. The worst part of this, is that I’m envious of them right now. Growing up, we owned UGA. They were an after thought, almost a guaranteed W. When Spurrier left after ‘01 that was our time to take the reigns and run the SEC. We all know how that turned out, and now here is UGA with the right coach, getting anyone they want and we are what we are.

It sucks that I am jealous of what Athens, Ga, will be Saturday night. The center of the college football world with an incredible atmosphere . As a college football it will be something to see .
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One of these days there is going to be a documentary (an ESPN 30 for 30 on it would be awesome) about the SEC's run of dominance and national title streak from 2006-12. You know what sucks about it though, and would stick out to me like a sore thumb? Tennessee will be completely AWOL in it. Unless they mention LSU's close 2007 SECCG to us, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to mention Tennessee.

We were coming off Fulmer's first losing season in 2005, but if you told me that starting the next year the SEC was going to go on a run of winning every national title until 2012 and appearing in every title game until 2013, my reaction to that would have been "Awesome, Phil rights the ship and goes on another great run, we'll probably win another national title and win some SEC titles." Ugh. That's just hard to fathom given we're one of the conference's historical power teams and arguably the second most successful SEC program behind Alabama.
 
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05_never_again said:
One of these days there is going to be a documentary (an ESPN 30 for 30 on it would be awesome) about the SEC's run of dominance and national title streak from 2006-12. You know what sucks about it though, and would stick out to me like a sore thumb? Tennessee will be completely AWOL in it. Unless they mention LSU's close 2007 SECCG to us, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to mention Tennessee.

We were coming off Fulmer's first losing season in 2005, but if you told me that starting the next year the SEC was going to go on a run of winning every national title until 2012 and appearing in every title game until 2013, my reaction to that would have been "Awesome, Phil rights the ship and goes on another great run, we'll probably win another national title and win some SEC titles." Ugh. That's just hard to fathom given we're one of the conference's historical power teams and arguably the second most successful SEC program behind Alabama.
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You’re right. It’s sad. So many ways we have screwed up from the top down for the better part of 15 years, hell maybe since December 2001.
People may think I’m nuts, but I think our 2006 was national title good. That was our shot. the 07 team was decent, but flawed and then it all fell apart. Goes to show how important good QB play is. Manning, to Martin, Clausen, to Ainge and then poor coaching gets us here with Dobbs being the exception. We just haven’t been able to put it together.
 
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I think the SEC stuff helps when it wasnt just Bama winning.

As it is now it comes across pretty hollow. With even the good teams being hidden by Bamas shadow
 
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