Former OC Golesh on UT culture

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Stating the obvious, but we're still hungry for football news and good news, right?


“It’s 100 percent who you follow,” said Golesh when asked about the transition to a new program. “Heup was the complete opposite (of Pruitt). The culture at Tennessee was extremely negative; kids didn’t want to be around the facility. I think he was 100 percent mindful of that.”

"With the previous staff, it was more of a military-style of practices," said Vols linebacker Bryson Eason during spring practice in 2021. "It was very strict. This practice is more catered to us, the team, and the players. It's just a whole different kind of energy level."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/atozsp...oc-alex-golesh-culture-josh-heupel-tennessee/
 
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This kind of thing is often off-season happy talk, but the results on the field definitely tell you that something changed big time within the program during the transition, you don't have 11-2 seasons with bad culture, you do have 3-7 seasons with it though.

I like off season happy talk when it’s after a season like the last one and looking forward to the next one.

I was getting tired of the whole offseason happy talk followed by a season of soul crushing reality.
 
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You can do military style AFTER you have gained respect, not before.

I think military style is slowly but surely becoming a thing of the past…this generation of kids just don’t respond to it whether us old farts like that or not…but…I totally agree with you that if it’s going to work the person utilizing it has to have the respect of the players…

Pruitt wasn’t smart enough to realize this…I really think that’s what it comes down to is that he’s just the stereotypical meathead football coach…because of this he wasn’t capable of adapting to what he had so he just tried to copy the Saban approach (especially the cheating part) but didn’t have a shred of Saban’s credibility
 
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I like off season happy talk when it’s after a season like the last one and looking forward to the next one.

I was getting tired of the whole offseason happy talk followed by a season of soul crushing reality.
Yeah, that's more or less what I was saying, it's nice when we have tangible on the field results that give the happy talk has some basis in reality.
 
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I think military style is slowly but surely becoming a thing of the past…this generation of kids just don’t respond to it whether us old farts like that or not…but…I totally agree with you that if it’s going to work the person utilizing it has to have the respect of the players…

Pruitt wasn’t smart enough to realize this…I really think that’s what it comes down to is that he’s just the stereotypical meathead football coach…because of this he wasn’t capable of adapting to what he had so he just tried to copy the Saban approach (especially the cheating part) but didn’t have a shred of Saban’s credibility

Anytime you have to play player's out of your back pocket to play, you have a problem. Culture or coaching.
 
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Guess being an ah only works for Saban and Meyer
You have to have proven results to be that kind of coach and have kids accept it.
If kids think you’re an ah but they know it’ll get them a ring, they will persevere. If they see you being an ah and going 3-7…. Not so much.
 
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You have to have proven results to be that kind of coach and have kids accept it.
If kids think you’re an ah but they know it’ll get them a ring, they will persevere. If they see you being an ah and going 3-7…. Not so much.

And conversely, CJH comes in preaching family and playing for each other and being responsible and gets immediate results. Just points out how ignorant coaches like Beldar are. They are falling by the wayside hopefully, or at least staying at other schools.
 
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Understanding team psychology is a major task for any decent HC. The coordinators can run the O/D. The HC needs to understand team psychology, recruit/retain coaches that fit his system and kiss up to boosters for more/larger stuff.
 
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I hate Pruitt

I don't. I pity him and all Sabanized coaches. They have no idea how self-destructive they are. Eventually, it all catches up with them. Poor things.

There was blood on the saddle and blood all around
And a great big puddle of blood on the ground

A Sabano lay in it all covered with gore
And he never be hired as head coach no more

Oh, pity the Sabano, all bloody and red

For the penalties fell on him and bashed in his head
He won't be munching again on cornbread
 
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This kind of thing is often off-season happy talk, but the results on the field definitely tell you that something changed big time within the program during the transition, you don't have 11-2 seasons with bad culture, you do have 3-7 seasons with it though.
Yes, it's become standard rhetoric in college football. Whenever there is a coaching change, there will always be chatter about how much the "culture" has changed. It's become a cliche ... However, with Heupel the proof rests with the results. We would never have won 11 games under Pruitt, or had that type of season offensively under Pruitt.
 
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Yes, it's become standard rhetoric in college football. Whenever there is a coaching change, there will always be chatter about how much the "culture" has changed. It's become a cliche ... However, with Heupel the proof rests with the results. We would never have won 11 games under Pruitt, or had that type of season offensively under Pruitt.
If y’all review my posts I knew that it had truly changed under heup pretty early… he preaches the right things and you can since how genuine he is… the players have bought in completely and once you have that you will be successful as a coach… add in the facts that he is an excellent X and O coach with proven offense every year and we are in for a great era of Tennessee football… he is determined to have an elite attacking defense at UT and when he says it I believe it… this team will again be very well coached and have a chance to win every game on the schedule.
 
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I don't. I pity him and all Sabanized coaches. They have no idea how self-destructive they are. Eventually, it all catches up with them. Poor things.

There was blood on the saddle and blood all around
And a great big puddle of blood on the ground

A Sabano lay in it all covered with gore
And he never be hired as head coach no more


Oh, pity the Sabano, all bloody and red
For the penalties fell on him and bashed in his head
He won't be munching again on cornbread
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Culture matters with the kids now, and it's different.

Think of it this way.

4th and 1:

Boomers/Gen Xers "OK. Two TEs, let's get a FB in there, and pound this thing forward"

Millenials: "Can we think this through in a different way? Maybe spread the field, and throw short. May be easier. Work smarter, not harder"

Zoomers: "Why only 4 downs? Why do we need to move it 10 yards anyway? What is the real point of the game? Can't we demonstrate our athleticism in a different manner? Let's really challenge the status quo on this"

I do NOT envy coaches dealing with Zoomers........
 
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Culture matters with the kids now, and it's different.

Think of it this way.

4th and 1:

Boomers/Gen Xers "OK. Two TEs, let's get a FB in there, and pound this thing forward"

Millenials: "Can we think this through in a different way? Maybe spread the field, and throw short. May be easier. Work smarter, not harder"

Zoomers: "Why only 4 downs? Why do we need to move it 10 yards anyway? What is the real point of the game? Can't we demonstrate our athleticism in a different manner? Let's really challenge the status quo on this"

I do NOT envy coaches dealing with Zoomers........
I’m 68 and back in college full-time with Zoomers (and most of my professors are Millennials, lol.)

None of them act like this as a rule. Stereotyping is lazy thinking. (We all do it at times, but it’s counterproductive and ought to be avoided.)
 
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I’m 68 and back in college full-time with Zoomers (and most of my professors are Millennials, lol.)

None of them act like this as a rule. Stereotyping is lazy thinking. (We all do it at times, but it’s counterproductive and ought to be avoided.)

Absolutely........but this was a joke. And with a good number of millenials and zoomers I work with, it's not that far off. And frankly often leads to some good results.
 
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