Fred Biletnikoff Award

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SWIL

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#1
The award for the best WR.

Meachem wasn't even mentioned....does this piss anyone else off?:realmad:
 
#2
#2
Yes, but we've vented in another thread a while back..
 
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#3
oops, my bad- i looked for one...
 
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SWIL said:
The award for the best WR.

Meachem wasn't even mentioned....does this piss anyone else off?:realmad:
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It's kind of ridiculous, but in a way I am glad. He isn't getting any respect from anyone. Maybe this will add fuel to his fire and he will come back one more year.
 
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Meachem really did get the shaft. These are the stats for the finalists compared to Meachem..

Games played
Calvin Johnson - 13
Samardzija - 12
Dillard - 12
Meachem - 12

Catches
Johnson - 67
Samardzija - 70
Dillard - 82
Meachem - 67

Total Yards
Johnson - 1016
Samardzija - 958
Dillard - 1176
Meachem - 1265

Receptions Per Game
Johnson - 5.15
Samardzija - 5.83
Dillard - 6.83
Meachem - 5.58

Yards Per Catch
Johnson - 15.16
Samardzija - 13.69
Dillard - 14.34
Meachem - 18.88

Yards Per Game
Johnson - 78.15
Samardzija - 79.83
Dillard - 98
Meachem - 105.42

Touchdowns
Johnson - 13
Samardzija - 11
Dillard - 20
Meachem - 11
 
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#7
While I don't think Meachem is in the same class as Calvin Johnson, he's clearly a better receiver than Samardzija. I haven't seen Dillard play this year -- but then, I suspect neither have most of the people who voted on this award.
 
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C. Johnson won it by just showing up this year.

Interested in Meachem's Yards After Catch average... hook us up, OWB.
 
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Meachem played against better competition than any of the above WRs. He also had success with two different QBs, even though Crompton was for only two games. Meachem, IMO, had the best year of any WR in the nation. He just wasn't a household name before the season started (unless you're a UT fan), so that hurt his campaign.
 
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In all fairness to Johnson, he did have Reggie Ball throwing the ball to him but then again, nobody twisted his arm and made him go to Georgia Tech..
 
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#11
How is that Meachem and Dillard each played 12 games, Dillard had more receptions, and their receptions per game stat is equal?
 
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kptvol said:
How is that Meachem and Dillard each played 12 games, Dillard had more receptions, and their receptions per game stat is equal?
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Typo, nice catch..

You should have been up for this award as well..
 
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As I recall, CJ was shut out against Clemson. Meachem has never even been close to being shut out.
 
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If Johnson had had Erik Ainge throwing to him this year, the stats wouldn't be close. He really is that good.

Now, a good argument can be made that this award ought not to identify who the "best" receiver is in some NFL-prospect sense, but rather who had the best year on the field in the context of a team game. If that's the case, Meachem is as good a choice as anybody.

Meachem's case might have been hurt considerably by the Arkansas game, in which he got pushed around pretty well by a physical secondary. He's going to have to work on that if he's going to be successful in the NFL.
 
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Vol_4_Life said:
As I recall, CJ was shut out against Clemson. Meachem has never even been close to being shut out.
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I have a feeling that was probably more of a case of Reggie Ball having a worse than average Reggie Ball kind of game.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If Johnson had had Erik Ainge throwing to him this year, the stats wouldn't be close. He really is that good.
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tidwell said:
I have a feeling that was probably more of a case of Reggie Ball having a worse than average Reggie Ball kind of game.
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Like I said before, nobody made Johnson go to GT to catch attempted passes from Ball. That was his choice.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Meachem's case might have been hurt considerably by the Arkansas game, in which he got pushed around pretty well by a physical secondary. He's going to have to work on that if he's going to be successful in the NFL.
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About the only argument I can think of for him to give it another year. Well, outside of just loving the college experience...
 
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OWB said:
Like I said before, nobody made Johnson go to GT to catch attempted passes from Ball. That was his choice.
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Sure. I absolutely agree that an excellent case can be made that while Johnson may be the best receiver in college football, he didn't have the best year. If the award's supposed to honor who had the best year, Meachem's a better choice.

Unbelievable that he wasn't a finalist, that's for sure.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Sure. I absolutely agree that an excellent case can be made that while Johnson may be the best receiver in college football, he didn't have the best year. If the award's supposed to honor who had the best year, Meachem's a better choice.

Unbelievable that he wasn't a finalist, that's for sure.
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I don't know exactly when all of these awards started becoming a popularity contest, but they no longer have any relevance to true fans. They're relevant to those who look to sports reporters to provide them an opinion that they might use as their own. I seem to recall Peyton Manning losing the Heisman to a frickin' DB who's team won a subjectively voted NT by beating WAZZU. Even better, Brady Quinn won POY last night, Puh-frickin-leeze.
 
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OWB said:
In all fairness to Johnson, he did have Reggie Ball throwing the ball to him but then again, nobody twisted his arm and made him go to Georgia Tech..
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My point exactly, I think he will be a great NFL WR.
 
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What Tidwell said... CJ just had to suit up for the games and he'd win it. They just picked up a big name and some big stats to go watch CJ win the award. Exact same thing is happening with the Heisman.
 
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tidwell said:
I have a feeling that was probably more of a case of Reggie Ball having a worse than average Reggie Ball kind of game.
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Exactly. Same thing for the Georgia game -- Johnson had two lousy catches. But Ball barely even threw it to him -- he was too busy running around aimlessly behind the line and fumbling, I guess.

milohimself said:
What Tidwell said... CJ just had to suit up for the games and he'd win it. They just picked up a big name and some big stats to go watch CJ win the award. Exact same thing is happening with the Heisman.
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A few weeks ago I was watching the UT-Arkansas game from 1997. It was interesting to hear the announcers call Manning the "prohibitive" favorite to win the award, since there were only three weeks left in the year. They even briefly mentioned the other candidates, and Charles Woodson's name never came up. A month later Woodson was striding across the podium to accept the award.

That's when I checked out on these individual awards, because they are so ill-defined as to be worthless. Ron Dayne won it on the strength of a career award, but Charles Woodson won it based on three weeks of Sportscenter hype. Leinart won easily two years ago, but was never taken seriously as a candidate last year. Is it a one-year award? a career award? a hybrid? In the absence of an actual standard, it ends up being just a stupid ephemeral beauty contest.

The same thing is true of these other individual awards. There's no doubt in my mind that Calvin Johnson is the "best" receiver in the country, in the sense that I would take him first if I we were out on the playground choosing up teams. He'll be the first receiver taken in the draft. But there's also no doubt that Robert Meachem had a better year on the field. So in the absence of a definition for this award, I can't really get worked up about who wins it.

Having said that, Robert Meachem is certainly my FAVORITE receiver, and I would much rather him come back for his senior year than Calvin Johnson...!
 
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