Fulkerson’s involvement

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As I watch Tennessee play I watch us launch 3 after 3 when we have a guy in John Fulkerson down low who is very efficient. Get the ball in the paint to him and good things usually happen. He scores, he assists out of a double team, or gets the offensive board from a miss. If we looked for him more we would play infinitely better. We probably would’ve won that last game had we looked for him more instead of launching so many 3s. I don’t know if y’all have noticed but the pick and roll with Fulky is lethal, and his passing is so good for a big man. We need to work inside out, and we need to involve Fulkerson more. Period.
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
As I watch Tennessee play I watch us launch 3 after 3 when we have a guy in John Fulkerson down low who is very efficient. Get the ball in the paint to him and good things usually happen. He scores, he assists out of a double team, or gets the offensive board from a miss. If we looked for him more we would play infinitely better. We probably would’ve won that last game had we looked for him more instead of launching so many 3s. I don’t know if y’all have noticed but the pick and roll with Fulky is lethal, and his passing is so good for a big man. We need to work inside out, and we need to involve Fulkerson more. Period.
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Did you watch the game?? He was missing everything close as well!! Nobody was shooting well, just a bad game to flush and move on.
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
As I watch Tennessee play I watch us launch 3 after 3 when we have a guy in John Fulkerson down low who is very efficient. Get the ball in the paint to him and good things usually happen. He scores, he assists out of a double team, or gets the offensive board from a miss. If we looked for him more we would play infinitely better. We probably would’ve won that last game had we looked for him more instead of launching so many 3s. I don’t know if y’all have noticed but the pick and roll with Fulky is lethal, and his passing is so good for a big man. We need to work inside out, and we need to involve Fulkerson more. Period.
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I agree good things usually happen, he keeps the floor wiped clean because that is where he usually winds up
 
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Got a lot of love for Fulky but he’s lost a couple of steps with all of the injuries and lack of work. He’s slower, lost confidence with the ball in his hands and more vertically challenged. I’d love to feed him and run the O through him but his frame and skill set doesn’t allow it. He can still grind on D and make himself visible for a dish. But he’s got to be more efficient around the basket and be more of a leader on the floor. That’s what this squad is missing more than anything. Imo
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
As I watch Tennessee play I watch us launch 3 after 3 when we have a guy in John Fulkerson down low who is very efficient. Get the ball in the paint to him and good things usually happen. He scores, he assists out of a double team, or gets the offensive board from a miss. If we looked for him more we would play infinitely better. We probably would’ve won that last game had we looked for him more instead of launching so many 3s. I don’t know if y’all have noticed but the pick and roll with Fulky is lethal, and his passing is so good for a big man. We need to work inside out, and we need to involve Fulkerson more. Period.
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Despite what some others have said I basically agree with you. Fulky is a great passer for a big and in games like the last - everyone should have been looking inside more. Taking 40 3's when your outside shooting is cold is questionable strategy to say the least. When healthy and not double teamed Fulky historically scores at a 60% clip - I fortunately didn't watch the game but there had to be opportunities to go inside to Fulky, Hatfield, or others. Or work inside out - back in, just don't jack up 40 3's when you are connecting on 16 percent of them.
 
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I don’t think Tennessee was trying “not” to get the ball in the paint………from what I saw they were simply have a hard time doing it at times………….at some point you have to shoot the ball, especially if you have a good open look.

Tennessee also missed 13 shots from at or near the goal.

Their shots weren’t falling……..however you can’t just stop shooting. It looked like they kept trying to pass and drive but the D was forcing them out (not all the time but a lot of the time)………Tennessee just kept missing.

I love Fulkerson………but from the second half on he was 1 for 5 at or near the goal.
 
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Brentwoodvolfan said:
Did you watch the game?? He was missing everything close as well!! Nobody was shooting well, just a bad game to flush and move on.
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Fulky was 4 for 9 and is hitting 53 % from the field --- JJJ shot 8 3.s and he is hitting on 12 per cent of them for the year. Ziegler and Bailey Jr. are hitting on 26 % of their 3's. Hummmmm OP has a good point.

21 ( twenty one ) 3 pointers by JJJ, Ziegler, and Bailey Jr. who collectively are hitting what 21 percent of their 3's versus getting it inside where everyone averages over 50 %.

I wasn't a math major or a head basketball coach, but this is a recipe for a loss to many teams, not just Texas Tech. Our interior guys can score - they are talented - they need to touch it more often.
 
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Olivier and Huntley - Hatfield probably need more minutes as well - wasn't Tech tallish and we were playing with a very small lineup most of the game? I would also let Olivier shoot 3's before some of our guards. He is hitting 60 per cent of his. Granted his have been mostly
wide open - but he is making them.
 
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JoAllan said:
I don’t think Tennessee was trying “not” to get the ball in the paint………from what I saw they were simply have a hard time doing it at times………….at some point you have to shoot the ball, especially if you have a good open look.

Tennessee also missed 13 shots from at or near the goal.

Their shots weren’t falling……..however you can’t just stop shooting. It looked like they kept trying to pass and drive but the D was forcing them out (not all the time but a lot of the time)………Tennessee just kept missing.

I love Fulkerson………but from the second half on he was 1 for 5 at or near the goal.
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Valid point - was the game at MSG ? Isn't that a rather smallish floor ? Or am I thinking it is smallish because it has been around for so long ?
 
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Fullfillmer said:
Fulky was 4 for 9 and is hitting 53 % from the field --- JJJ shot 8 3.s and he is hitting on 12 per cent of them for the year. Ziegler and Bailey Jr. are hitting on 26 % of their 3's. Hummmmm OP has a good point.

21 ( twenty one ) 3 pointers by JJJ, Ziegler, and Bailey Jr. who collectively are hitting what 21 percent of their 3's versus getting it inside where everyone averages over 50 %.

I wasn't a math major or a head basketball coach, but this is a recipe for a loss to many teams, not just Texas Tech. Our interior guys can score - they are talented - they need to touch it more often.
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I'm not sure that hitting less than 50% at point blank range down low is good percentage to be feeding him the ball, but if you are comparing that to our 3-point shooting you would be correct. If you are saying we would of won the game feeding him shooting less than 50% nope!! We just sucked this game pure and simple!!! Inside out or outside in don't work when you can't hit shots!!
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
As I watch Tennessee play I watch us launch 3 after 3 when we have a guy in John Fulkerson down low who is very efficient. Get the ball in the paint to him and good things usually happen. He scores, he assists out of a double team, or gets the offensive board from a miss. If we looked for him more we would play infinitely better. We probably would’ve won that last game had we looked for him more instead of launching so many 3s. I don’t know if y’all have noticed but the pick and roll with Fulky is lethal, and his passing is so good for a big man. We need to work inside out, and we need to involve Fulkerson more. Period.
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Fulky has some very positive qualities on the court. He is a good player that contributes to UT's wins. To think that he is a Grant Williams type offensive player that we can feed the ball to and force the defense to double team is just completely false. Period.
 
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therickbol said:
Fulky has some very positive qualities on the court. He is a good player that contributes to UT's wins. To think that he is a Grant Williams type offensive player that we can feed the ball to and force the defense to double team is just completely false. Period.
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To be fair, for a little over half a season, he was exactly that type of player.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
To be fair, for a little over half a season, he was exactly that type of player.
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Are we in a DeLorean? He has been at UT for a decade and had one amazing stretch of games offensively. All the other little things that he brings has been fairly consistent. Being an offensive-weapon was a blip. It was the outlier not the norm.
 
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therickbol said:
Are we in a DeLorean? He has been at UT for a decade and had one amazing stretch of games offensively. All the other little things that he brings has been fairly consistent. Being an offensive-weapon was a blip. It was the outlier not the norm.
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Gosh I wish I had a DeLorean...

And yes, I agree with you. I'm just saying that he is capable of doing it for an extended period. Problem is, most people have that expectation now and I just don't think his body is capable of it anymore. Which is a shame. Loved that stretch of games for him. He is still a very good player and vitally important to our success. He just needs to stay healthy to have an impact.
 
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Brentwoodvolfan said:
Did you watch the game?? He was missing everything close as well!! Nobody was shooting well, just a bad game to flush and move on.
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I watched the game and checked the stats. Fulkerson played well, scored points, and didn’t get in foul trouble. Agree with the flush but, we did not play consistently under the rim and should have moved the ball around and set Fulkerson or ORN up at the rim.
 
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I decided to do some additional research on the Tech-Tenn game. Fulky led the Vols with 10 points. He had 5 blocks and only 2 fouls. He played 39 minutes. He is a 6'9" SR and weighs 219 lbs. Aidoo and BHH are both taller and bigger. Aidoo did not get on the floor and BHH 4 minutes. Nkamhoua is 6'8" and 13 minutes with 2 points. For Tech, you have SR, 6-8 240 Williams #11, RFr 6-11, 235 Batcho #4, RS SR 6-6 210 McCullar, JR 6-6, 215, Terrance Shannon, and Obanor SR, 6-8, 235 #0. In terms of length, size, experience....Texas Tech was just longer, tougher, and played just "better" enough to win. I do not put this loss on Fulky and he is not "thick" enough to battle under the basket for 30 or more minutes a game. Uros is what he is and he just seems uncoordinated to me. A big man who plays like he has only had a basketball in his hands for a couple years. On one particular scrum, he just looked disconnected. I believe we are a young team with our better talent and will get better. Until all these "F-reshmen" grow up, toughen up, and get the speed of the game, we are going to be suspect. Bailey, Vescovi, and James are just not getting it done and they should be taking over these games and scoring 15-20 points a game. My opinion. Love my Vols!
 
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lostsheep said:
Don't disagree, but just pointing out his sample size is much smaller.
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Agree, but each time I've seen him shoot a three, it was a wide open, in rhythm shot. He seems to be aware that he shouldn't take just any old three-point shot. I've also seen him turn down a few open threes. I'd like to see him shoot more, but I doubt he would ever be a volume shooter.

On the other hand, I'd like to see the volume shooters who are not shooting well back off unless they have wide open, in rhythm shots.
 
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