Fulkerson inbounding after made shots

[1200DPI]

He shouldn't be doing this. He should be on his way to the other end while someone else performs this task. Slows down the Vol offense.

If he is indeed the focal point of the offense nothing much happens until he's planted in the paint.

How can you throw the ball over the top for a quick score if he's still in the back court?

Should minimize the distance he runs. Have a guard inbound the ball. Not a big.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I know this is about after makes, but I think the biggest weakness of our team is how slow we attack after defensive rebounds and turnovers. There is a lack of urgency and, maybe, too much unselfishness/desire for the perfect shot. The analytics show that teams have a much better shooting percentage in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. This is what LSU and Alabama do. It's what Auburn with Sharife Cooper is starting to do. Our defense is elite, but we are not getting the quick points that we got when Bone stirred the drink.

 

[OrangeVolMan]

Fulk is usually close to the basket on defense so he is usually the closest one to throw ball in bounds. We don’t usually run on made baskets so not a big deal him throwing it in. Not really slowing us down.

 

[golfballs]

I know this is about after makes, but I think the biggest weakness of our team is how slow we attack after defensive rebounds and turnovers. There is a lack of urgency and, maybe, too much unselfishness/desire for the perfect shot. The analytics show that teams have a much better shooting percentage in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock *after a turnover. This is what LSU and Alabama do. It's what Auburn with Sharife Cooper is starting to do. Our defense is elite, but we are not getting the quick points that we got when Bone stirred the drink.

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where does this stat live?

 

[cardvolfan]

I know this is about after makes, but I think the biggest weakness of our team is how slow we attack after defensive rebounds and turnovers. There is a lack of urgency and, maybe, too much unselfishness/desire for the perfect shot. The analytics show that teams have a much better shooting percentage in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. This is what LSU and Alabama do. It's what Auburn with Sharife Cooper is starting to do. Our defense is elite, but we are not getting the quick points that we got when Bone stirred the drink.

Agree100%. It seemed as if we are pushing hard less and less. An example of this is JJJ who pushed hard in these instances and had his best game of the year 3 games ago.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

Agree100%. It seemed as if we are pushing hard less and less. An example of this is JJJ who pushed hard in these instances and had his best game of the year 3 games ago.

The reason we lost to Perdue and struggled against Iowa in the 2019 tourney is because we forgot this IMO. We slowed it down in an effort to make every possession count and, counter-intuitively-our offensive efficiency took a big hit.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

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where does this stat live?

Been about a year since I was reading this. It's not on the first couple of pages of google hits. I'll let you know if I can find it.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

?
where does this stat live?

This is not what I read but here is this from the NBA
NBA team shot clock usage and efficiencies from 82games.com

 

[golfballs]

Been about a year since I was reading this. It's not on the first couple of pages of google hits. I'll let you know if I can find it.

I recall seeing something similar but I thought it was just on turnovers. Anyway, in general I agree about being more aggressive, but I don’t think everyone on our lineup is good in transition like that. Keon could be a difference maker in that respect.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I recall seeing something similar but I thought it was just on turnovers. Anyway, in general I agree about being more aggressive, but I don’t think everyone on our lineup is good in transition like that. Keon could be a difference maker in that respect.

I love Vescovi in a lot of ways but we will be much better off at the PG position next year with Chandler.

 

[VOLED]

He shouldn't be doing this. He should be on his way to the other end while someone else performs this task. Slows down the Vol offense.

If he is indeed the focal point of the offense nothing much happens until he's planted in the paint.

How can you throw the ball over the top for a quick score if he's still in the back court?

Should minimize the distance he runs. Have a guard inbound the ball. Not a big.

This is the way it has been done for years, and the way I learned to do it. . The thought is that if we are going to be pressed/trapped by the opposing team then we need our ballhandlers on the court ready to receive the pass and bring it up court. Also, the big throwing the ball in can be unguarded since the player that would be guarding him is already down court. This gives an additional player (who can more easily see over the traps) to help get the ball up court. I get that some teams don't press or trap so this would not be needed all the time, but you never know for sure what you are going to get so this in put in place irregardless of what the other team is doing.

 

[Dallasbowlin]

I know this is about after makes, but I think the biggest weakness of our team is how slow we attack after defensive rebounds and turnovers. There is a lack of urgency and, maybe, too much unselfishness/desire for the perfect shot. The analytics show that teams have a much better shooting percentage in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. This is what LSU and Alabama do. It's what Auburn with Sharife Cooper is starting to do. Our defense is elite, but we are not getting the quick points that we got when Bone stirred the drink.

Yes. So much of our offense is looking for the perfect shot, and when you have guys like Keon and Springer you don’t need to do that. Just give the ball to them and let them work.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

The reason we lost to Perdue and struggled against Iowa in the 2019 tourney is because we forgot this IMO. We slowed it down in an effort to make every possession count and, counter-intuitively-our offensive efficiency took a big hit.

I like their chicken.

 

[walkenvol]

Yes. So much of our offense is looking for the perfect shot, and when you have guys like Keon and Springer you don’t need to do that. Just give the ball to them and let them work.

And they will give you Pippen Jr numbers and you will struggle to win games. Playing within a team system consistently produces more wins IMO

 

[Dallasbowlin]

And they will give you Pippen Jr numbers and you will struggle to win games. Playing within a team system consistently produces more wins IMO

Will also cost you games though. I would argue that cost us the Alabama game. We were down 7 trying to find the perfect shot instead of just going and doing something. Sometimes you just have to play basketball.

 

[walkenvol]

Will also cost you games though. I would argue that cost us the Alabama game. We were down 7 trying to find the perfect shot instead of just going and doing something. Sometimes you just have to play basketball.

We got plenty of great looks vs Bama and lots of free throws we didn’t make. Wasn’t like we were firing up prayers late in the shot clock because nobody could get a good look. Going street ball wouldn’t have generated better looks IMO. We simply had a really poor night shooting, doesn’t mean we need to change the formula that led to winning all the other games we’ve played.

 

[Dallasbowlin]

We got plenty of great looks vs Bama and lots of free throws we didn’t make. Wasn’t like we were firing up prayers late in the shot clock because nobody could get a good look. Going street ball wouldn’t have generated better looks IMO. We simply had a really poor night shooting, doesn’t mean we need to change the formula that lead to winning all the other games we’ve played.

I’m not saying to go full iso ball, I think there’s a perfect middle grown where teams can thrive.

 

[cardvolfan]

Will also cost you games though. I would argue that cost us the Alabama game. We were down 7 trying to find the perfect shot instead of just going and doing something. Sometimes you just have to play basketball.

Tennessee was stepping up their pace the last 12 minutes. We would make a run and have a chance to make it to within 4-6 points, and then would clank 2 shots in a row.

 

[Fairacres Vol]

Secondary fast break. Dean Smith. Post player throws it in after makes and trails the play. Other post rim runs. Then you can run many quick hitters or flow right into your offense.

The post throws it in so the guards can run to the corners.

 

[ndubvols]

This seems like an extremely skewed stat due to easy fast break buckets off turnovers and rebounds with a quick outlet.

Would be interesting to see something similar off of only made baskets. Pure guess, but I’d imagine middle portion of the shotclock has the best results, which is where we generally take shots.

 

[orangemadam]

I know I'm being selfish with this, but I would love to see Chandler, Keyon, Springer, Fulky, Nkim (?) in the starting lineup next year.

Very explosive potential there.

 

[wmcovol]

I love Vescovi in a lot of ways but we will be much better off at the PG position next year with Chandler.

SV isn’t a true point guard. He’s actually more a 2. He does have the capability of playing PG some. He can go on a 9-0 run pretty damn quick too

 

[BruisedOrange]

This is the way it has been done for years, and the way I learned to do it. . The thought is that if we are going to be pressed/trapped by the opposing team then we need our ballhandlers on the court ready to receive the pass and bring it up court. Also, the big throwing the ball in can be unguarded since the player that would be guarding him is already down court. This gives an additional player (who can more easily see over the traps) to help get the ball up court. I get that some teams don't press or trap so this would not be needed all the time, but you never know for sure what you are going to get so this in put in place irregardless of what the other team is doing.

Additionally, your bigs are likely closest to the ball after a made shot, and can get the ball inbounds the quickest while the opponent's offense is transitioning, whether downcourt or into a press. At every level I played, the center was designated to make the inbounds pass after a made shot.

 

[cncchris33]

I recall seeing something similar but I thought it was just on turnovers. Anyway, in general I agree about being more aggressive, but I don’t think everyone on our lineup is good in transition like that. Keon could be a difference maker in that respect.

With the number of great guards we have, and as good as we are defensively getting our hands in passing lanes and blocking shots, I expected we would see more fast break opportunities this year, but it seems like we almost never get a run-out with a player advantage, and even less often that we take advantage of them. It is something I have noticed and wondered if anyone else did, as well.

I wouldn't be shocked to see we are bottom 2 or 3 in the conference in fast break/transition points if anyone can find that stat.

 

[cardvolfan]

With the number of great guards we have, and as good as we are defensively getting our hands in passing lanes and blocking shots, I expected we would see more fast break opportunities this year, but it seems like we almost never get a run-out with a player advantage, and even less often that we take advantage of them. It is something I have noticed and wondered if anyone else did, as well.

I wouldn't be shocked to see we are bottom 2 or 3 in the conference in fast break/transition points if anyone can find that stat.

Yes, and this team needs to take advantage of what could be a big advantage for them. We saw some of this against a few early opponents.