Fun little stat this year...

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In turnovers per game, UT is t-234 out of 346. 13.9 turnovers per game and an assist/turnover ratio of .88/1. Wow
 
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better check out the stats at u t sports. it shows 15.2 turnovers per game. still bad, but 1.5 less than your wrong stats show. where did you get those stats ? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:
 
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lylsmorr said:
In turnovers per game, UT is 309 out of 346. 16.7 turnovers per game and an assist/turnover ratio of .6/1. Wow
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148 assists with 167 turnovers = 88.62 ratio. i guess rounded off it would be .8/1 ratio. your source must be e s p n :whistling: :whistling:
 
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Holy cow, I apologize. I didn't realize I had UTM highlighted as a favorite team and that was Tennessee-Martin that was so bad
 
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lylsmorr said:
Fixed it now, it's still pretty ugly
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it is , but it will get better i'm sure. don't ever trust e s p n for stats. iused to look at stats on there after a u t game and knew they were wrong and sure enough i would check them against u t sports's stats later, and they were right. :salute: :salute: :salute:
 
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That assist to turnover ratio is what happens when you lose your solid starting point guard to graduation, and your returning veteran guard is struggling with injuries, leaving two freshmen guards holding the bag. These are growing pains. I am not happy about them either, but we will grow.
 
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We are going to get better. What I don't understand is how some of these players fundamentals are so bad. It is something that all players are taught from day one of playing basketball. Rebounding, ball handling, defense, etc. How do we have players throwing the ball out of her hands into the stands and players dribbling the ball off of their legs? It is crazy! I just get fustrated watching this from such highly talented players.
 
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dlw4n said:
That assist to turnover ratio is what happens when you lose your solid starting point guard to graduation, and your returning veteran guard is struggling with injuries, leaving two freshmen guards holding the bag. These are growing pains. I am not happy about them either, but we will grow.
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These guys have been playing basketball all their lives, there is no excuse for having that many turnovers. It just takes smart play.
 
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If we were playing our old style of ball I could see the number of turnovers being as high as they are but when we are a half court offense now, there is no excuse for it.
 
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lylsmorr said:
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These guys have been playing basketball all their lives, there is no excuse for having that many turnovers. It just takes smart play.
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Peyton has been playing football all his life, but he started throwing interceptions when his veteran running backs and wide receivers went down.

Besides, playing high school ball in some division where you can coast on your athleticism because you are better than 99% of your competitors isn't great preparation for playing top 20 division 1 basketball. This is just part of why freshmen struggle.

The best thing about freshmen? They become sophomores.
 
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misplacedfan#1 said:
Yeah, but Scotty became a junior and still dribbling the ball off his leg!
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Haha, now Scotty is a different story. I want to like and support the guy, but he seems to have greasy hands. It's almost like his brain gets moving faster than his body...and there goes the ball off his knee.

I'm still hoping he finds some calm and consistency. I think Tobias will be good for him. He is the opposite. Always seems to play quick, but in control. Makes it look smooth and effortless. Scotty reminds me of a squirrel on crack.
 
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I agree with you on that. But I think this may be the year that everything comes together for him. I hope for volnation's sake that it is.
 
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misplacedfan#1 said:
I agree with you on that. But I think this may be the year that everything comes together for him. I hope for volnation's sake that it is.
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I hope so as well. I for one want Scotty to succeed. It seems many people on here wish for him to fail so that they have something to complain about. Not me. I like a good come from behind, through adversity, story much better.
 
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dlw4n said:
Haha, now Scotty is a different story. I want to like and support the guy, but he seems to have greasy hands. It's almost like his brain gets moving faster than his body...and there goes the ball off his knee.

I'm still hoping he finds some calm and consistency. I think Tobias will be good for him. He is the opposite. Always seems to play quick, but in control. Makes it look smooth and effortless. Scotty reminds me of a squirrel on crack.
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Actually, as far as pure numbers go, Scotty's turnover rate isn't that bad. It's better than JP Prince's was last year, for instance.

It's also better than John Wall's was.

Now, Scotty is no John Wall, but I'm just saying looking purely at the numbers he's not awful awful.

His problem is that his turnovers look so silly and needless. He just looks like a goose when he turns it over, and that makes them more memorable.
 
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dlw4n said:
Peyton has been playing football all his life, but he started throwing interceptions when his veteran running backs and wide receivers went down.

Besides, playing high school ball in some division where you can coast on your athleticism because you are better than 99% of your competitors isn't great preparation for playing top 20 division 1 basketball. This is just part of why freshmen struggle.

The best thing about freshmen? They become sophomores.
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We haven't had many-if any- injuries to starters, so throw out the Manning analogy.
 
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lylsmorr said:
We haven't had many-if any- injuries to starters, so throw out the Manning analogy.
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The point remains that when you lose your veterans (to injury, graduation, barfights, etc) the young'ins come in and make mistakes that affect the whole team. Peyton is no worse a QB than years previous (in fact, maybe better), but his INT numbers are up because of the diminished talent and experience of those around him.

The details of why differ, but the comparison has its virtue.
 
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StepCross said:
Actually, as far as pure numbers go, Scotty's turnover rate isn't that bad. It's better than JP Prince's was last year, for instance.

It's also better than John Wall's was.

Now, Scotty is no John Wall, but I'm just saying looking purely at the numbers he's not awful awful.

His problem is that his turnovers look so silly and needless. He just looks like a goose when he turns it over, and that makes them more memorable.
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Interesting.

I will agree that Scotty's turnovers look awful because so many of them are unforced and clumsy looking.
 
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